Replacing Engine with US V8
Discussion
Sorry to barge in from the Tuscan forum, but I was wondering if anyone knew if thi shad been done, and if so, by whom. with the tendency of Blackpool sourced kit to turn to cheese after a while, I'm giving serious consideration to a Chevy motor and a corvette 6 speed. alternatively the viper motor and box can be had for about £5k.
Ok, it would take some serious cutting, welding, and tuning the running gear (if indeed there's even enough room for the engine and box) but it should be good for 0-60 in under 4 secs, 200mph AND be reliable....
And that makes me go a bit wobbly....
Tim
Ok, it would take some serious cutting, welding, and tuning the running gear (if indeed there's even enough room for the engine and box) but it should be good for 0-60 in under 4 secs, 200mph AND be reliable....
And that makes me go a bit wobbly....
Tim
Impressive website Boosted, anybody thinking of this could do worse than check out this website
www.chevroletls1.com/
www.chevroletls1.com/
jellison has an LS6 in his Chimaera - loads of posts about that in his profile. Steve Heath's is being done at Tower View, nztrev is putting an LS1 into a Chimarea for the track in New Zealand, and I'll be fitting an LSx (not yet sourced - lots of body and chassis work to be done first) into a Cerbera 'soon'.
jellison has a TKO-500 transmission and seems very happy with it. I'm sure he'll be along shortly to comment....
Don
jellison has a TKO-500 transmission and seems very happy with it. I'm sure he'll be along shortly to comment....
Don
timarrowsmith said:
hmmm, so the LS1 will drop in and the camaro box bolts in too..... very interesting.
Obv there'll be some wiring issues to overcome. I'd be v interested to see how Steve Heath gets on.
Tim
Nope. The Camaro six speed box doesn't fit. Forget it. The LS1 does fit but wise man from Orange he say... "it is one thing getting it into the big wide space, another thing getting it hooked up to everything else...". Trust me the amount of development work and time invested so far has been immense.
I've worked out how to solve the issues and in the prototyping bits to fit stage. Currently removing the Cerbera body to get to the chassis to repair the corrosion. It will make life a lot easier when the engine is plumbed in and then I'll pop the body back. Tower View are getting the chassis blasted, etched and coated again so the car will effectively have a new chassis. We were discussing yesterday about rose jointing all the suspension.
If you are around North London, pop into Tower View.
Steve
www.shpub.co.uk
Yes. That is one of the reasons why they have been so helpful. They have a lot of experience which I can pick on to discuss things and see how to do this and that. They have a business to run and don't have the time to to make this happen and be able to offer the transplant at a reasonable cost. I have the time and they are providing me with ) and help. That way I get a transplant, get a lot more information for the Cerbie book and the LS1 transplant becomes a reality.
And it also means that they will know exactly what is involved and the costs instead of it being a bit of well budget this and so on. The brief I am working on is to reuse as much of the Cerbera to keep costs down as much as possible. There are a few special bits to be made that make it all work which is where the costs will be kept down as once I have the pattern/recipe they can be quickly made and this takes a lot of the time and effort out of the equation.
As I said the prototyping has been done and I'm in the process of removing the body to sort out the chassis and make any mods if needed (or I've got it wrong), While the chassis is being sorted out I can go ahead with the machining needed for the other bits.
No we are not using the T56 box... it doesn't fit. To be more accurate... it doesn't without a lot of work and cost. There is not enough space and the costs would be tremendous to do so. No point in doing a transplant that isn't practical or economic. Space is incredibly tight on a Cerbie.
Anyway back to the Cerbie book.... the grudget wangler is connected to the forcet matrix which in turn was an optional extra....
Whoops wrong application.
And it also means that they will know exactly what is involved and the costs instead of it being a bit of well budget this and so on. The brief I am working on is to reuse as much of the Cerbera to keep costs down as much as possible. There are a few special bits to be made that make it all work which is where the costs will be kept down as once I have the pattern/recipe they can be quickly made and this takes a lot of the time and effort out of the equation.
As I said the prototyping has been done and I'm in the process of removing the body to sort out the chassis and make any mods if needed (or I've got it wrong), While the chassis is being sorted out I can go ahead with the machining needed for the other bits.
No we are not using the T56 box... it doesn't fit. To be more accurate... it doesn't without a lot of work and cost. There is not enough space and the costs would be tremendous to do so. No point in doing a transplant that isn't practical or economic. Space is incredibly tight on a Cerbie.
Anyway back to the Cerbie book.... the grudget wangler is connected to the forcet matrix which in turn was an optional extra....
Whoops wrong application.
shpub said:
No we are not using the T56 box... it doesn't fit. To be more accurate... it doesn't without a lot of work and cost. There is not enough space and the costs would be tremendous to do so. No point in doing a transplant that isn't practical or economic.
I didnt realise the Cerb transmission tunnel part of the chassis was so much different from the Chim/Griff.
The T56 although bigger than a T5 and TKO went in no probs,we choose it because besides it being bulletproof it has the narrowist bellhousing and runs a centre realise bearing.It also has the same output spline as the T5.
All the Chev to t5 bellhousings we tried were dinosaurs in comparison and would of required alot of chopping even for the engine to go back into in the same position let alone back further which we achieved with the T56.
nztrev said:
I didnt realise the Cerb transmission tunnel part of the chassis was so much different from the Chim/Griff.
The T56 although bigger than a T5 and TKO went in no probs,we choose it because besides it being bulletproof it has the narrowist bellhousing and runs a centre realise bearing.It also has the same output spline as the T5.
All the Chev to t5 bellhousings we tried were dinosaurs in comparison and would of required alot of chopping even for the engine to go back into in the same position let alone back further which we achieved with the T56.
Yes that is surprising given that the Cerb is a bigger car than a Griff. Nuless there's a weird bracing peice it sounds like the Cerb chassis is relatively weak compared to the Griff/Chim. Very unexpected!
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