V70 auto gearbox problem

[taters]

Ive just picked up a cracker of a p2 v70 with 67k miles. Ive just changed all discs and pads, oil and filter and now I am going to perform the gibbons flush to renew the tranny fluid as a precation.

With ref to the AW box being made of chocolate, surely thats a bit harsh - all the failures are well past 150k miles and thats hardly low miles. If I want to avoid probs later in its life will regular flushes halt the onset of 'issues'?

[Chingers]

Mine started to fail at 120k had the oil flushed and lived with it for another 10k then had the g'box rebuilt because I'd invested at lot of cash in other areas of the car. So no I don't think it is harsh. Most of the failures I've heard of seem to happen between 120k and 150k.

[Stuartggray]

dave_s13 said:

I did exactly that but only used 10 litres, that cleaned the fluid up no end. You can get it off Ebay for £10/litres, search for mobil 3309 (I think).

Mine is still not quite right though. It bangs when changing down from 2 to 1 when slowing to a stop. But, only does it when fully warmed up and sometimes not at all.

I'm living with it. Mines on 130k miles btw (V70 D5).

Sounds like the answer is to do it again with the full 20 litres. Why skimp?

[Nick Grant]

My transmission has just failed. Car has only done 45K (2008 V70 D5) and needs a new valve body, not happy. Full Volvo dealer service history on the car which was my father in laws from new and I have had for 18 months

[Nick Grant]

kapiteinlangzaam said:

You will get some sort of contribution from Volvo as it is FVSH, but it will still be painful.

Quite surprising on a 2008 car, especially with only 45k miles.

Id wager the Volvo contribution will be around 1/3 to 1/2 of the cost.

Good luck getting it sorted.

I've asked them to look into this, cheers.

[morgrp]

confused_buyer said:

Digby said:

Which box would likely be in a 98 V70 T5? The same chocolate one?

A '98 will most likely have the earlier 4-speed - you can tell from the gear selector. They're generally fine. The last of the Mk 1 V70's (99 & 00) did have the 5-speed gearbox and engine setup from the 00-07 V70 but, for some reason, don't seem quite as troublesome as in the later model. No logical reason why.

The pre-99's with 4-speed gearbox and mechanical rather than electronic throttle are probably less potentially troublesome overall.

It will be the 4 speed in a 98 model as mine's a 99 and has the same box - some of the 98 models had the earlier 3 mode version with Sport/eco and winter, later boxes only have winter mode and are supposed to adapt to driving conditions (they don't very well). Box itself is largely bulletproof but I would recommend a software update on it and a fluid change - You can change the fluid yourself using the union going into the transcooler. The software update should up the pressures in the box giving more positive changes.

[gaz1234]

Ah maybe I'll write off v70 then! Stick to e class, Subaru or 5 series

[gaz1234]

which of the 3 are most reliable and cheapest to run?

[martinrpeachey]

gaz1234 said:

which of the 3 are most reliable and cheapest to run?

Get a good one and Volvo will be the way to go.
Clutches for them are about £1100 but can last over 130k miles, even when abused.
Pre-2005 cars have a few expensive electrical gremlins but aren't all bad.

My V70 has 212k miles on it, was a police car, has been tuned and will keep up with an E46 M3.

[confused_buyer]

We're talking about 3 different gearboxes here:

850/V70/S70/C70 up to 1998: 4-speed Aisin Warner AW50-42
1999-2000 old shape V70: 5-speed Aisin Warner AW50/51-55
2000-2005 newer shape V70: 5-speed AW50/51-55
2006-2007 newer shape V70: 6-speed Aisin Warner TF60
2008-2014 new V70: 6-speed TF60

2014 on models with new 4-cylinder Volvo engine should have a new 8-speed gearbox.

By far and away the most troublesome are 2000 to 2002 model year AW50/51 gearboxes in the newer (2000-2007) S60/V70/S80.

In addition the 6-cylinder 2.9/T6 S80 models used a 4-speed GM gearbox which is totally hopeless.

[gaz1234]

confused_buyer said:

We're talking about 3 different gearboxes here:

850/V70/S70/C70 up to 1998: 4-speed Aisin Warner AW50-42
1999-2000 old shape V70: 5-speed Aisin Warner AW50/51-55
2000-2005 newer shape V70: 5-speed AW50/51-55
2006-2007 newer shape V70: 6-speed Aisin Warner TF60
2008-2014 new V70: 6-speed TF60

2014 on models with new 4-cylinder Volvo engine should have a new 8-speed gearbox.

By far and away the most troublesome are 2000 to 2002 model year AW50/51 gearboxes in the newer (2000-2007) S60/V70/S80.

In addition the 6-cylinder 2.9/T6 S80 models used a 4-speed GM gearbox which is totally hopeless.

I'm looking at autos 07 to 10

[172]

Old thread I know

Just bought 10l Mobil 3309. Going to do gibbons flush

2000 v70 2.4 with 5 speed box on 145k

Box behaves fine except slight thud between 2nd and 3rd

Will post results here

[172]

So phase 1 of oil change completed

I just disconnected the top oil cooler pipe and connected 2 pieces of 12.5mm clear pipe 3 foot long, one slips onto the hose and the other i made an adapter to go over the radiator stub.

Some cars it flows out the hose others out the radiator. Mine flows out the hose so i put that in 2l bottle and ran the engine till i saw bubbles (got about 2.5l out) then topped up 1l via other hose ran till 1l came out and repeated that 5 times then topped up and put hose back on

Will drive it for a while to hopefully free up more old oil before repating the above.

This process is definitely worth doing

[Fmal]

My V70 with 229k miles came up with Transmission Service Required and a service check confirmed it needs a new gearbox which at this kind of mileage is probably not worth it. What exactly happens when it fails?

[57 Chevy]

Fmal said:

My V70 with 229k miles came up with Transmission Service Required and a service check confirmed it needs a new gearbox which at this kind of mileage is probably not worth it. What exactly happens when it fails?

With mine it just dropped all the fluid and ground to a halt.

[The Don of Croy]

Can we tempt 172 back to report on his flush?

I gave my 99 P80 V70 2.4 5 speed AW a partial flush two years ago. No problem before but at nearly 20 years in use it seemed like a good plan. Drained from the bottom plug and refilled through the dipstick.

Now it is nearly at 90k miles but still performs nicely.

Fab car. Needs an aircon refill every season, but KwikFit couldn’t find a leak. EBay £20 can solves that.

Best £400 I’ve ever spent.

[bluebossa]

Just bought a P2 D5 2007 - No Drive or engagement of the Auto Box... Engine fine, but looking for tips on what Relays or fuses might affect the Transmission from engaging...

133,000 miles
Any ideas?