Mk1 C70 T5 Convertible - terrible idea?

Mk1 C70 T5 Convertible - terrible idea?

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TR4man

5,226 posts

174 months

Saturday 2nd September 2017
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That's a lot of car for the money.

anonymous-user

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54 months

Saturday 2nd September 2017
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is that a bsr sticker on that back?

BigMon

4,186 posts

129 months

Saturday 2nd September 2017
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The Spruce goose said:
is that a bsr sticker on that back?
Yes, though it doesn't feel very fast!

I'll go through the service history when I pick it up and see if there's a receipt in there.


anonymous-user

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54 months

Saturday 2nd September 2017
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BigMon said:
Yes, though it doesn't feel very fast!

I'll go through the service history when I pick it up and see if there's a receipt in there.
The 2.0 is only has about 160bhp or so, to move a fairly chunky old barge. Is it auto or manual?

BigMon

4,186 posts

129 months

Saturday 2nd September 2017
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dme123 said:
The 2.0 is only has about 160bhp or so, to move a fairly chunky old barge. Is it auto or manual?
Auto. It really is a wafter, it's not very quick tbh.

I have a 100bhp Fiesta Ecoboost and that feels quicker. Though I suppose the C70 has a lot more noise insulation and is more comfortable at higher speeds.

TBH I bought it as I've always liked Volvos (growing up one of our neighbours had Volvos all through my childhood, my earliest memory is a 1978 T reg estate that he kept until a 1987 D reg saloon) and I wanted a convertible again as we've not had one for a few years.

It's a bit of fun for not much money.

anonymous-user

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54 months

Sunday 3rd September 2017
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i'm sure the bsr remap came with a bsr air filter.

Edited by The Spruce goose on Sunday 3rd September 09:35

BigMon

4,186 posts

129 months

Sunday 3rd September 2017
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The Spruce goose said:
i'm sure the bsr remap cam with a bsr air filter.
Or someone stuck a BSR badge on there!

Whatever has been done to it, it isn't a rocket ship. It's OK to drive, though the scuttle shake is a bit interesting, but the auto box is not a fast one so it doesn't encourage me to thrap it.

I think I'll enjoy just pootling around in it with the top down.

anonymous-user

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54 months

Sunday 3rd September 2017
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BigMon said:
Or someone stuck a BSR badge on there!

Whatever has been done to it, it isn't a rocket ship. It's OK to drive, though the scuttle shake is a bit interesting, but the auto box is not a fast one so it doesn't encourage me to thrap it.

I think I'll enjoy just pootling around in it with the top down.
That's what they do best really. The scuttle shake is a bit of a shock!

anonymous-user

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54 months

Sunday 3rd September 2017
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BigMon said:
Or someone stuck a BSR badge on there!

Whatever has been done to it, it isn't a rocket ship. It's OK to drive, though the scuttle shake is a bit interesting, but the auto box is not a fast one so it doesn't encourage me to thrap it.

I think I'll enjoy just pootling around in it with the top down.
i posted it as a way to quickly identify it had been remapped, if it has it will be 233bhp which isn't bad, i don't think anyone would think it was a rocket ship.

BigMon

4,186 posts

129 months

Sunday 3rd September 2017
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The Spruce goose said:
i posted it as a way to quickly identify it had been remapped, if it has it will be 233bhp which isn't bad, i don't think anyone would think it was a rocket ship.
Oh I see. Thanks for that.

Have any of you had the transmission fluid changed? Can you remember roughly what it cost?

anonymous-user

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54 months

Sunday 3rd September 2017
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BigMon said:
Oh I see. Thanks for that.

Have any of you had the transmission fluid changed? Can you remember roughly what it cost?
It's quite easy to do yourself, but you MUST use the right oil. I think my local Volvo indy quoted £90 for a sump drop and refill, but the best way to do it is the "gibbons method" which you can google.

I am personally extremely skeptical about the claimed power output from a remapped car. 233bhp from a 2.0 with a low pressure turbo. A power output Volvo required another 300cc and a high pressure turbo to achieve in the T5 (240bhp). Even against modern cars you'd never describe a C70 with that power output as "slow".

You'd doubtless get improvements from a remap but take the billy bullst headline figures with a pinch of salt.


BigMon

4,186 posts

129 months

Sunday 3rd September 2017
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I need to go through the service history thoroughly but I suspect I'll need to take it in for a cambelt and a transmission flush pretty shortly.

anonymous-user

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54 months

Sunday 3rd September 2017
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BigMon said:
I need to go through the service history thoroughly but I suspect I'll need to take it in for a cambelt and a transmission flush pretty shortly.
Cambelt is cheap and easy. I don't remember paying more than £200 including the Volvo kit from a decent indy using the Volvo kit.

norchi

351 posts

222 months

Sunday 3rd September 2017
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I can say, with many years experience in these matters that the best, proven software calibrations for the old 2.0T 5 pot will give you 220bhp with 350nm of torque...... no more. at the going rate of arround £399 it is not a particularly good investment in these lardy cars.

Better to put your pennies into a higher displacement, higher standard output turbo engine in another car........

Don.

Edited by norchi on Sunday 3rd September 10:35

BigMon

4,186 posts

129 months

Sunday 3rd September 2017
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dme123 said:
Cambelt is cheap and easy. I don't remember paying more than £200 including the Volvo kit from a decent indy using the Volvo kit.
Good to know. At this price point I can't haggle for anything like that really.

BigMon

4,186 posts

129 months

Monday 4th September 2017
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Am getting quotes for a cambelt change and transmission flush.

More or less what I expected, which is good, but one of the mechanics has quoted for 7 litres of Volvo 1161540. Doesn't it only take about 4 litres?

BigMon

4,186 posts

129 months

Thursday 7th September 2017
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Have been using it for a few days now.

I think it might have had a remap, it certainly isn't slow when you put your foot down. Makes a lovely 'woofling' sound when driving it too.

Bad points are a few bits of loose trim, looks like the previous owners used the alloys to sand a few kerbs, and it is pretty thirsty (my brother has a 1994 2.4 Volvo estate and that's thirsty too).

However, when all is said and done, so far it seems like a lovely car considering it's 12 years old. I am enjoying driving it a lot more than I thought I would, and I'm very impressed with the solidity of it and I really like how it looks too.


Edited by BigMon on Thursday 7th September 14:38

Fattyfat

3,301 posts

196 months

Thursday 28th September 2017
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I bought a 2001 2.0 LPT auto a few months back and am slowly working through a few niggles and service items. Only 83K but needs a timing belt and auto flush...unless I decide to play Russian roulette.

Solid old boat, not fast by any stretch, thirsty and the scuttle shake is ridiculous compared to my 05 Audi A4 Cabrio.

I gather window alignment/regulators are a git on these, any hints?....

Going to punt on the Audi and keep the Volvo for road trips and a general spare car for any of the family that needs it.

BigMon

4,186 posts

129 months

Sunday 15th October 2017
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Fattyfat said:
I bought a 2001 2.0 LPT auto a few months back and am slowly working through a few niggles and service items. Only 83K but needs a timing belt and auto flush...unless I decide to play Russian roulette.

Solid old boat, not fast by any stretch, thirsty and the scuttle shake is ridiculous compared to my 05 Audi A4 Cabrio.

I gather window alignment/regulators are a git on these, any hints?....

Going to punt on the Audi and keep the Volvo for road trips and a general spare car for any of the family that needs it.
Agree with all that! Out of interest why are you selling the Audi but keeping the Volvo?

I can't help with the alignment but re the scuttle shake mine has a front strut brace and that make a real difference. I think some people also fit a rear strut brace or tow bar.

I've had mine a month and am still loving it. It's amazing how many positive comments it gets. People think it's a really expensive car when it cost less than one years depreciation on my Fiesta!

Fattyfat

3,301 posts

196 months

Monday 16th October 2017
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BigMon said:
Agree with all that! Out of interest why are you selling the Audi but keeping the Volvo?

I can't help with the alignment but re the scuttle shake mine has a front strut brace and that make a real difference. I think some people also fit a rear strut brace or tow bar.

I've had mine a month and am still loving it. It's amazing how many positive comments it gets. People think it's a really expensive car when it cost less than one years depreciation on my Fiesta!
I was considering selling the Audi as I originally wanted a 3.0 Quattro but ended up with a 1.8 Multitronic... Wife has taken an interest in keeping the A4 for herself, the C70 is just a bit of a project to tinker at. I think the strut brace is no longer available and seems scarce second hand.