S60 D5... owners
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You can definitely get what you're looking for - here is an example plucked from Autotrader of a facelifted car with the Euro III D5 163bhp engine (you can tell because it has a black engine cover).
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2010...
The Euro III cars have a black engine cover. Euro IV cars have a silver one.
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2010...
The Euro III cars have a black engine cover. Euro IV cars have a silver one.
Edited by ad551 on Friday 18th February 23:31
Davie said:
This one...
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2011...
...has caught my eye (don't care much for the wheels) but can somebody please help me identify what it is because I'm now lost in a world of confusion! It's badged on its arse as a D5, but will this be the Euro4 engine with the DMF, 185bh and the poorer fuel economy or the one I'm after, ie a facelift with the Euro3 163bhp engine?
Edit: The vehicle stats say 163bhp and the title says 2.4D...
OK - the one you posted has 163bhp and is Euro IV. These engines were labelled as 2.4D after 2006ish.http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2011...
...has caught my eye (don't care much for the wheels) but can somebody please help me identify what it is because I'm now lost in a world of confusion! It's badged on its arse as a D5, but will this be the Euro4 engine with the DMF, 185bh and the poorer fuel economy or the one I'm after, ie a facelift with the Euro3 163bhp engine?
Edit: The vehicle stats say 163bhp and the title says 2.4D...
Edited by Davie on Friday 18th February 23:21
Sometime in 2005, the D5 was bumped to 185bhp and became Euro IV compliant.
Head's about to explode....
This car, which according to the chap above... is a 163bhp Euro 3 facelift model
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2010...
And this car, which according to the other chaps is the 163bhp Euro 4 facelift model.
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2011...
But... both have black engine covers!
This car, which according to the chap above... is a 163bhp Euro 3 facelift model
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2010...
And this car, which according to the other chaps is the 163bhp Euro 4 facelift model.
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2011...
But... both have black engine covers!
Tip - many dealers do not know what they are selling 
and this is what is confusing you.
EuIII always black engine cover.
5-speed box in manuals.
EuIV always silver engine cover.
6-speed box in manuals.
EuIII never higher than 163bhp.
EuIV come in both 163 (2.4D) and 185 (D5) outputs {forget the 2009 onwards models}
FACELIFT CARS available in both EuIII and EUIV variant i.e 2005/54 as a rule.
Another little known check is that EuIV have very little clutter behind the offside headlamp whereas EuIII are cluttered. The airboxes (on the right as you look into the bay from the front of the vehicle) also differ (note EuIII have a visible inlet pipe) and and and ................
and this is what is confusing you.EuIII always black engine cover.
5-speed box in manuals.
EuIV always silver engine cover.
6-speed box in manuals.
EuIII never higher than 163bhp.
EuIV come in both 163 (2.4D) and 185 (D5) outputs {forget the 2009 onwards models}
FACELIFT CARS available in both EuIII and EUIV variant i.e 2005/54 as a rule.
Another little known check is that EuIV have very little clutter behind the offside headlamp whereas EuIII are cluttered. The airboxes (on the right as you look into the bay from the front of the vehicle) also differ (note EuIII have a visible inlet pipe) and and and ................
Davie said:
Head's about to explode....
This car, which according to the chap above... is a 163bhp Euro 3 facelift model
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2010...
And this car, which according to the other chaps is the 163bhp Euro 4 facelift model.
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2011...
But... both have black engine covers!
Example of dealer fail ------------both EuIIIThis car, which according to the chap above... is a 163bhp Euro 3 facelift model
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2010...
And this car, which according to the other chaps is the 163bhp Euro 4 facelift model.
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2011...
But... both have black engine covers!
In fact the 2nd advert is a great example to facelift car with EuIII engine
Edited by T5R+ on Saturday 19th February 18:05
T5R+ said:
Tip - many dealers do not know what they are selling and this is what is confusing you.
EuIII always black engine cover.
5-speed box in manuals.
EuIV always silver engine cover.
6-speed box in manuals.
EuIII never higher than 163bhp.
EuIV come in both 163 (2.4D) and 185 (D5) outputs {forget the 2009 onwards models}
FACELIFT CARS available in both EuIII and EUIV variant i.e 2005/54 as a rule.
Another little known check is that EuIV have very little clutter behind the offside headlamp whereas EuIII are cluttered. The airboxes (on the right as you look into the bay from the front of the vehicle) also differ (note EuIII have a visible inlet pipe) and and and ................
Fantastic, certainly cleared things up a bit. and this is what is confusing you.EuIII always black engine cover.
5-speed box in manuals.
EuIV always silver engine cover.
6-speed box in manuals.
EuIII never higher than 163bhp.
EuIV come in both 163 (2.4D) and 185 (D5) outputs {forget the 2009 onwards models}
FACELIFT CARS available in both EuIII and EUIV variant i.e 2005/54 as a rule.
Another little known check is that EuIV have very little clutter behind the offside headlamp whereas EuIII are cluttered. The airboxes (on the right as you look into the bay from the front of the vehicle) also differ (note EuIII have a visible inlet pipe) and and and ................
Can anybody actually clear up what D5" signifies, is that just the higher output version of each engine type, for example...
Euro 3 = 2.4D - 130bhp OR D5 - 163bhp
Euro 4 = 2.4D - 163bhp OR D5 - 185bhp
So really, I'm in need of a 05 (ish) facelift D5, with the black engine cover as this with be a Euro 3 but have the higher 163bhp?
The reason an 05 will say model year 06 is that Volvo is a year ahead of itself, so cars last year idea 2010 are called model year 11. Its confusing for people buying secondhand cars as its looks like they are making them out to be a year newer than when registered.
With regards to the engine covers the 185bhp has the grey cover all 163 regardless of year have the black one.
With regards to the engine covers the 185bhp has the grey cover all 163 regardless of year have the black one.
Gents, I'm still on a bit of a mission here and whilst I would dearly like to spend the allocated budge on a V70R estate, the sensible head dictates that diesel makes more sense financially (owned a S70R and an 850 T5 before, sub 25mpg got scary!) and hence been searching for a suitable Euro 3 engined S60 however, it dawned on that a V70 diesel could fall into the budget. I found this one...
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2506639.htm
...but can anybody offer some advice on these? Would I be correct in saying that the "D5" will have the same Euro 3 163bhp 2.4 turbodiesel engine that would be found in a similar aged S60? The whole "D5" still confuses me as I always thought "D5" denoted the later, DMF equipped 185bhp engines... but I was incorrect and hence, it is possible to have a "D5" that is the Euro 3, 163bhp engine which is better on fuel.
In short, still a little bit lost!
Many thanks once again
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2506639.htm
...but can anybody offer some advice on these? Would I be correct in saying that the "D5" will have the same Euro 3 163bhp 2.4 turbodiesel engine that would be found in a similar aged S60? The whole "D5" still confuses me as I always thought "D5" denoted the later, DMF equipped 185bhp engines... but I was incorrect and hence, it is possible to have a "D5" that is the Euro 3, 163bhp engine which is better on fuel.
In short, still a little bit lost!
Many thanks once again
Davie said:
Gents, I'm still on a bit of a mission here and whilst I would dearly like to spend the allocated budge on a V70R estate, the sensible head dictates that diesel makes more sense financially (owned a S70R and an 850 T5 before, sub 25mpg got scary!) and hence been searching for a suitable Euro 3 engined S60 however, it dawned on that a V70 diesel could fall into the budget. I found this one...
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2506639.htm
...but can anybody offer some advice on these? Would I be correct in saying that the "D5" will have the same Euro 3 163bhp 2.4 turbodiesel engine that would be found in a similar aged S60? The whole "D5" still confuses me as I always thought "D5" denoted the later, DMF equipped 185bhp engines... but I was incorrect and hence, it is possible to have a "D5" that is the Euro 3, 163bhp engine which is better on fuel.
In short, still a little bit lost!
Many thanks once again
You are correct. the D5 you're looking at is the 163 bhp model.http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2506639.htm
...but can anybody offer some advice on these? Would I be correct in saying that the "D5" will have the same Euro 3 163bhp 2.4 turbodiesel engine that would be found in a similar aged S60? The whole "D5" still confuses me as I always thought "D5" denoted the later, DMF equipped 185bhp engines... but I was incorrect and hence, it is possible to have a "D5" that is the Euro 3, 163bhp engine which is better on fuel.
In short, still a little bit lost!
Many thanks once again
One thing I've come to realise with mine, the trip computer can be safely ignored, as its calculations regarding MPG are so far out as to be laughable. Mine claims I'm averaging 51 mpg, sometimes it creeps up to an indicated 53 if I'm doing mostly (slow, circa 70mph) motorway stuff.
The reality is that it's only achieving 40mpg (calculated). Now, there may be something wrong with it as it does smoke quite a bit when hoofing it, but the performance is good, so I don't really think so.
The fuel economy is a big factor as I'll be doing quite high mileage runs and so the difference in fuel cost between say a diesel doing 50mpg and a petrol doing 30mpg become quite significant. I didn't actually consider a V70 estate but have opened my eyes to them recently. Can anybody clarify if they had similar rules with regards the change from Euro 3 to Euro 4... did this happen around the 54/55 plate cars much like the S60?
Although the fuel economy reported above changes things, if they struggle to achieve the high 40's on a motorway cruise then it doesn't make as much sense especially when a very nice V70R can be had for around £1000 less than the budget is set at and that's a £1000 could be wasted on fuel!
This was another car that caught my eye, although 175,000 miles is getting on a bit?
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2011...
Although the fuel economy reported above changes things, if they struggle to achieve the high 40's on a motorway cruise then it doesn't make as much sense especially when a very nice V70R can be had for around £1000 less than the budget is set at and that's a £1000 could be wasted on fuel!
This was another car that caught my eye, although 175,000 miles is getting on a bit?
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2011...
As far as I'm aware, the engine changes were the same on both V70 and S60.
It's a tough engine, so 175,000 isn't too bad. Mine (V70) has a smidge over 150k on it and drives nicely. Suspension bushes tend to require fairly regular replacement, it's a heavy car, but can be hustled quite well when you're so inclined.
As said, I can't get even mid 40's out of it, but I'm open to the suggestion that something's amiss somewhere. It might be that it's been driven gently for so long by its previous owner (elderly and disabled, so unlikely to be booting it I reckon), that it's all gummed up or something.
Having said that, it's gone up by 2 mpg in the 3 months I've had it, and the weather's been pretty cold, which doesn't help.
It's a tough engine, so 175,000 isn't too bad. Mine (V70) has a smidge over 150k on it and drives nicely. Suspension bushes tend to require fairly regular replacement, it's a heavy car, but can be hustled quite well when you're so inclined.
As said, I can't get even mid 40's out of it, but I'm open to the suggestion that something's amiss somewhere. It might be that it's been driven gently for so long by its previous owner (elderly and disabled, so unlikely to be booting it I reckon), that it's all gummed up or something.
Having said that, it's gone up by 2 mpg in the 3 months I've had it, and the weather's been pretty cold, which doesn't help.
Just joined the ranks of s60 D5 owners.
Took an 02 s60 d5 s in p/x when I sold my MY09 V70 D5.
Not alot to go wrong, its the 160 bhp euro III which makes me happy.
It needs a good clay and wax first but will post some pics ASAP. Also have a very long run for work tomorrow so will report back on fuel economy.
Feels nippy enough to be honest, quite surprised. Its certainly a ways off the grunt available from the new D5 engine, but I dont feel short changed in anyway.
Took an 02 s60 d5 s in p/x when I sold my MY09 V70 D5.
Not alot to go wrong, its the 160 bhp euro III which makes me happy.
It needs a good clay and wax first but will post some pics ASAP. Also have a very long run for work tomorrow so will report back on fuel economy.
Feels nippy enough to be honest, quite surprised. Its certainly a ways off the grunt available from the new D5 engine, but I dont feel short changed in anyway.
halo34 said:
Just joined the ranks of s60 D5 owners.
Took an 02 s60 d5 s in p/x when I sold my MY09 V70 D5.
Not alot to go wrong, its the 160 bhp euro III which makes me happy.
It needs a good clay and wax first but will post some pics ASAP. Also have a very long run for work tomorrow so will report back on fuel economy.
Feels nippy enough to be honest, quite surprised. Its certainly a ways off the grunt available from the new D5 engine, but I dont feel short changed in anyway.
Took an 02 s60 d5 s in p/x when I sold my MY09 V70 D5.
Not alot to go wrong, its the 160 bhp euro III which makes me happy.
It needs a good clay and wax first but will post some pics ASAP. Also have a very long run for work tomorrow so will report back on fuel economy.
Feels nippy enough to be honest, quite surprised. Its certainly a ways off the grunt available from the new D5 engine, but I dont feel short changed in anyway.
good stuffI was very surprised the first time I drove one...I've never driven a Diesel like it tbh
I look forward to the pictures..what colour did you go for?
halo34 said:
Also have a very long run for work tomorrow so will report back on fuel economy.
Please do, would be interested to hear how you get on as I'm currently pondering over a very similar car however Mrs Davie is also steadfastly refusing to drive a Volvo. She's very narrow minded. And a badge snob.Hi,
Quick update then...
No fuel comp so estimating after popping 30 in @ 1.35 a litre (caught short in middle nowhere)
So far 160 miles and I would think another 80 odd looks realistic.
That's a mix of driving with the odd burst to check for probs - so hovering around 44 mpg, depends but definitely north of 40.
As for Volvo as a brand, its Volvo owners secret I don't tell people how good they are so we have more to ourselves!!
It's now my 5th and it's very hard to get out of one once your in one.
I came from a mix of very different brands too - BMW/Audi included.
Quick update then...
No fuel comp so estimating after popping 30 in @ 1.35 a litre (caught short in middle nowhere)
So far 160 miles and I would think another 80 odd looks realistic.
That's a mix of driving with the odd burst to check for probs - so hovering around 44 mpg, depends but definitely north of 40.
As for Volvo as a brand, its Volvo owners secret
I don't tell people how good they are so we have more to ourselves!!It's now my 5th and it's very hard to get out of one once your in one.
I came from a mix of very different brands too - BMW/Audi included.
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