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Hi there. Im hoping for around £260. Both armies have alot of lead pieces. I spent a fortune on the stuff when i was younger. (alot of pocket money!) it is listed on gumtree under massive collection of warhammer 40k epic. Some pics are up on gumtree. The main problem possibly is that i live near glasgow and i see ur from london
I have my whole collection in a tool box to keep it in gd condition but it wd weigh around 4 kilos so postage wd be expensive. If u want to speak to me direct just pm me;) thanks
I have my whole collection in a tool box to keep it in gd condition but it wd weigh around 4 kilos so postage wd be expensive. If u want to speak to me direct just pm me;) thanks
Yeah i remember them well. I think i got the epic game starter kit which arrived in a big box one christmas! It was really exciting. I then just kept adding pieces to it. Bit of an obsession really. 
my brother wasnt happy as when we started playing games with them he had a small eldar army with one battlegroup- i had 3 separate orc clans with gargants and dozens of vehicles. Needless to say i usually won :@ lol
my brother wasnt happy as when we started playing games with them he had a small eldar army with one battlegroup- i had 3 separate orc clans with gargants and dozens of vehicles. Needless to say i usually won :@ lol
For me, the game is more fun than the painting, but many people love the figure art. The rules are clunky, too oriented towards melee combat, and very crude on morale and on terrain effects, but it's still a fun game.
Today I am experimenting to see if a Tau ambush force of two Hammerhead gunships, 9 Pathfinders and 4 Stealth Suits led by a Battlesuit Commander with a bunch of gun and marker drones, all in cover on a hill, can hold up a Blood Angels armoured spearhead - Scouts, Tactical Squad and Death Company all in Rhinos, one Predator tank, one Whirlwind Mssile tank and two Land Speeders.
Today I am experimenting to see if a Tau ambush force of two Hammerhead gunships, 9 Pathfinders and 4 Stealth Suits led by a Battlesuit Commander with a bunch of gun and marker drones, all in cover on a hill, can hold up a Blood Angels armoured spearhead - Scouts, Tactical Squad and Death Company all in Rhinos, one Predator tank, one Whirlwind Mssile tank and two Land Speeders.
Well I have to say as I read through the Eldar codex yesterday I have also been tempted to get into the gaming side of thing as well. I need to understand quite a bit though so may wander back up to the local model store and loiter / ask questions first.
Full of geeks that place but they all looked as though they were having a good time and maybe I'm (not so) secretly geekier than I thought!
Full of geeks that place but they all looked as though they were having a good time and maybe I'm (not so) secretly geekier than I thought!
geeks said:
Ethan: So we both have a bunch of little plastic men, right? And we move them. Manually. Then, when we fight, we roll dice and then do math to figure out who hits who. But there are no actual battles or explosions. We use our imaginations, like a couple of savages. It sounds almost as fun as chewing used medical syringes.
Lucas: These guys here have chainsaw swords.
Ethan: This is the coolest game ever.
The "fluff" associated with the game is absurd, but quite funny. Imagine a universe in which a bunch of Catholic Space Nazis are the nearest you get to the good guys, or maybe some blue faced Space Communists are the goodies. Everyone else is as evil as hell.Lucas: These guys here have chainsaw swords.
Ethan: This is the coolest game ever.
The website 1d4chan has a good satirical take on the whole thing. It has invented some new Marine Chapters including the Angry marines, the Pretty Marines and the Reasonable Marines (guys who wear camouflage, use cover, and don't like casualities - all the others wear bright colours and have one tactic - chaaaaaaaaarge).
1d4chan said:
They're the strongest and the bravest men that you have ever seen
They encase themselves in armour plated fighting machines!
And some can play harmonicas
But none play tambourines
They're the greatest, they're the Emperor's Marines!
They encase themselves in armour plated fighting machines!
And some can play harmonicas
But none play tambourines
They're the greatest, they're the Emperor's Marines!
Edited by anonymous-user on Sunday 18th August 08:24
I used to be really into it when I was a teenager, my first weekend job was in Games Workshop even, and until fairly recently I still had a fairly sizeable stash of (mostly unpainted) warhammer stuff, discovered some of it was worth a few quid so flogged it off and spent it on my car instead. I have to say, I liked collecting them better than I liked painting them, although some of my better attempts weren't too bad most were pretty slapdash and only done so they could 'legally' be played with.
I am crap at painting but good at ebay shopping:-
This, like Warhammer in general, puts me in mind of this:-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLJUocaDYw0
This, like Warhammer in general, puts me in mind of this:-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLJUocaDYw0
I used to collect many years ago, ok, pre discovering girls. I actually popped in with an old mate just to see how much the stuff is. OMG, £35 for 5 spacemarines, I'm sure a drug habit is cheaper. It's a shame, I know lots of the mythology is nicked from other people but I did like playing and collecting it back in the day. However, the prices are just silly now.
Was thinking about bumping this thread - bought the 8th edition starter at the weekend...
Both son and daughter are keen to start playing, fortunately daughter likes dark angels (from the 7th Ed starter I've only just finished painting) - so that's what the primaries marines will be getting painted as. Son thinks chaos is "awesome, so cool" so he'll be happy with a mixed chaos army of khorne and nurgle. Picked up a great Montana spray paint in what I can only describe as 'pus green'.
Now need to figure out what army I want! Perhaps harlequins...
Both son and daughter are keen to start playing, fortunately daughter likes dark angels (from the 7th Ed starter I've only just finished painting) - so that's what the primaries marines will be getting painted as. Son thinks chaos is "awesome, so cool" so he'll be happy with a mixed chaos army of khorne and nurgle. Picked up a great Montana spray paint in what I can only describe as 'pus green'.
Now need to figure out what army I want! Perhaps harlequins...
I have lost touch with all this and assume that GW have done the usual cynical thing of changing all the rules and army lists and so on. My bro tells me that GW seem to want to stop the Orks being funny, and make them all grimdark and serious like the rest of the nonsense.
My daughter and nephew might be up for some crazy battles over the summer, as between my bro and I we have Blood Angels, Black Templars, Tau, Orks and some Necrons. We are thinking of having a crashed spaceship containing an ancient alien power-artefact in the middle of the table and various expeditionary forces arriving on the edge of the board all trying to grab the artefact before the others can get it. Maybe team up with another faction (aiming to backstab them later), or just fight everyone and slug it out to last man standing.
My daughter and nephew might be up for some crazy battles over the summer, as between my bro and I we have Blood Angels, Black Templars, Tau, Orks and some Necrons. We are thinking of having a crashed spaceship containing an ancient alien power-artefact in the middle of the table and various expeditionary forces arriving on the edge of the board all trying to grab the artefact before the others can get it. Maybe team up with another faction (aiming to backstab them later), or just fight everyone and slug it out to last man standing.
Breadvan72 said:
I have lost touch with all this and assume that GW have done the usual cynical thing of changing all the rules and army lists and so on. My bro tells me that GW seem to want to stop the Orks being funny, and make them all grimdark and serious like the rest of the nonsense.
My daughter and nephew might be up for some crazy battles over the summer, as between my bro and I we have Blood Angels, Black Templars, Tau, Orks and some Necrons. We are thinking of having a crashed spaceship containing an ancient alien power-artefact in the middle of the table and various expeditionary forces arriving on the edge of the board all trying to grab the artefact before the others can get it. Maybe team up with another faction (aiming to backstab them later), or just fight everyone and slug it out to last man standing.
If anything BV, it's the opposite. My daughter and nephew might be up for some crazy battles over the summer, as between my bro and I we have Blood Angels, Black Templars, Tau, Orks and some Necrons. We are thinking of having a crashed spaceship containing an ancient alien power-artefact in the middle of the table and various expeditionary forces arriving on the edge of the board all trying to grab the artefact before the others can get it. Maybe team up with another faction (aiming to backstab them later), or just fight everyone and slug it out to last man standing.
They've really taken a bit of a hit in the last few years, seemingly for two reasons:
The rules evolution from 3rd edition to 7th has made the game a lot less 'fluff consistent', killing the storytelling and making the game so complex you need half a dozen books, an eidetic memory and a whole day to play a decent sized game.
That constant tweaking (especially when a new codex comes out) meaning that it's very imbalanced (tournaments for 7th edition were massively skewed towards 3 armies) and often someone's army they've spent years building becomes obsolete overnight (hello orks!).
So, they've taken the pretty bold step of making two huge changes. A complete redesign of the basics of the game. Every single model /unit has a new statline. They've also done the unthinkable, and moved the background story along.
They trialled it with warhammer fantasy (now Age of Sigmar) and it's paid dividends. They've learnt and seemingly done it even better for 40k.
I bought the 7th edition starter four years ago. I never actually played - too much dosh to get started (£80 just on rulebooks to even consider building an army, a starter set that doesn't give you a usable kernel for an army).
8th edition starter gives you two usable 1000 point armies (with stunning models), and the full rulebook. Codex has become index (only five to cover every army) and are now £15. Rules that make logical sense means my kids are interested rather than losing interest in the first ten minutes (which happened only a month or two ago)...
That's interesting. The 40K rules that I played before had way too many phases in a turn, way too much dice rolling, and way too much emphasis on melee combat. I say this as someone who in youth played a lot of good tabletop wargaming rules for various periods.
I have recently tried some 15mm Seven Years War stuff - linear warfare in the Age of Reason, and all that. All this sci fi is too silly. The Seven Years War is far more civilised and you get to be Frederick the Great if you like. Sit in a pleasant room in Potsdam, have tea with Voltaire, compose a flute sonata, pass some liberal legislation, then go out and mow down a bunch of Austrians.
Very good rules called Die Kriegkunst, which are based on a Napoleonic set called General de Brigade - the brigade being the tactical formation in this system. Fast moving, not too much dicing, good effects of command and morale. Also Prussian Infantry get to march faster than anyone else and their first musket volley in any engagement has bonus effect. March them up close, take casualties as you go in, then fire one killer volley, then bayonet charge. The Austrians will usually run away at this point. They are after all reasonable men in a rational age.
See below Stanley Kubrick depicting Brits vs French (Brits using attack technique described above) - linear warfare actually intensely horrible. Because warfare.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBFpw-459VU
I have recently tried some 15mm Seven Years War stuff - linear warfare in the Age of Reason, and all that. All this sci fi is too silly. The Seven Years War is far more civilised and you get to be Frederick the Great if you like. Sit in a pleasant room in Potsdam, have tea with Voltaire, compose a flute sonata, pass some liberal legislation, then go out and mow down a bunch of Austrians.
Very good rules called Die Kriegkunst, which are based on a Napoleonic set called General de Brigade - the brigade being the tactical formation in this system. Fast moving, not too much dicing, good effects of command and morale. Also Prussian Infantry get to march faster than anyone else and their first musket volley in any engagement has bonus effect. March them up close, take casualties as you go in, then fire one killer volley, then bayonet charge. The Austrians will usually run away at this point. They are after all reasonable men in a rational age.
See below Stanley Kubrick depicting Brits vs French (Brits using attack technique described above) - linear warfare actually intensely horrible. Because warfare.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBFpw-459VU
Edited by anonymous-user on Wednesday 28th June 12:37
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