48 hour group build thread

48 hour group build thread

Author
Discussion

Yertis

18,016 posts

265 months

Thursday 3rd January 2019
quotequote all
OK. biggrin

On this kit the forward part of the nose is a separate component. As I've now come to expect, the fit was poor.



However, a bit of filing and that was quickly sorted.



So now on to this undercarriage fairing business... rolleyes To be fair to the kit, I did fit the starboard fairing slightly forward of where I should have fitted it. To be fair to me a. it fitted on the leading edge, and b. I now realise the kit is asymmetric anyway, as you can see from this not-great pic.



Elsewhere, I read this kit described as a 'turkey' and I can now see why. hehe Anyway, I shall persevere – I can at least try to make a tidy job of a kit created sixty-odd years ago. Most importantly, I'm enjoying it! Have now used Milliput to sort out some gaps around the wing root, and decided to sand off all the raised panel lines and put these back later using some other technique, or not.

Yertis

18,016 posts

265 months

Friday 4th January 2019
quotequote all
This morning I discovered that the Milliput isn't drying out. It is pretty old though. Will have to scrape off and try some new stuff.

A sensible person would bin this and start with something better.

robemcdonald

Original Poster:

8,716 posts

195 months

Friday 4th January 2019
quotequote all
What you have done so far looks really good. Stick with it.

Yertis

18,016 posts

265 months

Friday 4th January 2019
quotequote all
robemcdonald said:
What you have done so far looks really good. Stick with it.
Thanks. I'm certainly not giving up on it. I've just bought the old Airfix Kittyhawk, to compare their approach. (I see Eric also built this a few years ago.)

Yertis

18,016 posts

265 months

Monday 7th January 2019
quotequote all
Quick update for anyone still reading this thread – which I'm determined shall not slip into page 2 oblivion. The model now looks a little bit more like a Kittyhawk. After my Milliput screw-up (I don't think I kneeded it it anywhere near long enough) I had another go with the Squadron filler. Mistake. I'm sure something is wrong with it so it's going into the bin. I've removed all the raised panel lines, and most of the filler, again. In a moment I'll crack on with the Milliput again. Once I've got the shape right (or as right as this kit can be) I'm going to cheat and spray on some primer, but then it's back to brushes.



My replacement roundels arrived today thumbup



frown

So they'll be going back. Now is a good time to say (as is the way) "this one is fighting me every inch of the way".

gruffgriff

1,577 posts

242 months

Saturday 12th January 2019
quotequote all
Satisfying conclusion but total failure to adhere to the 48 hr ethos....took more than a bit of inspiration from images of a Russian 'stealth' plane on t'internet to decorate it a bit more interestingly than the regular black....still only a 10ft paint job though so close up looks like a 48hr build....


BUT
the Revell Fokker is nearing top coat and only owes a couple of Terrorvision albums worth of split-line removal, glueing and primer (photo pre priming of airframe and painting of pilot chappie):
Feeling good about finishing tomorrow.... sub 48 hrs.. .

robemcdonald

Original Poster:

8,716 posts

195 months

Saturday 12th January 2019
quotequote all
The F117A looks great. The Red Baron is coming on well too.

Your Terrorvision comment is most interesting though, as I thought I was the only one who still listened to them.

gruffgriff

1,577 posts

242 months

Saturday 12th January 2019
quotequote all
Impeccable taste Sir! Spotify and Audible are my modelling companions.....I can wind them up to 11 in the shed! Had a wonderful Terrorvision retrospective last night and while reminded how clever they are was horrified to discover my fave How to Win Friends must have been on rotation in the car way back in 1994......I was half my current age then....!

robemcdonald

Original Poster:

8,716 posts

195 months

Saturday 12th January 2019
quotequote all
Spotify and audible you say?...

Uncanny. My modelling sessions often begin with the phrases “Alexa play Audible” or “Alexa play robs playlist”

Without wanting to derail the thread even more terrorvision are touring in May. I’m going to try and see them in Islington.

Yertis

18,016 posts

265 months

Saturday 12th January 2019
quotequote all
I’m still plodding on with my Frog Kittyhawk, it’s in primer now, about seven hours elapsed - my adult commitments don’t permit hours sat at a modelling bench.

Really enjoying it though, I’ve got the old Airfix P40E that Eric did a while back, just to compare their kit-design approach nerd

gruffgriff

1,577 posts

242 months

Sunday 13th January 2019
quotequote all
He's not the Red Baron, but he did eat some pies...doesn't look happy about taking the kite up....
Islington you say....thanks for the info...


As an ex tool-room machinist I love how the mouldings tell the story of the tool...especially old Airfix ones where a pin or two seized, broke and clouted the fixed half! Have a couple of sub £2 Heller Fw190s that look about the same age but are from two entirely different tools...plusses and minuses for each so no clear 'winner' despite relative ages....

gruffgriff

1,577 posts

242 months

Sunday 13th January 2019
quotequote all
First red from the can and an exceedingly poor go at the tyres....best I can do in the 'nipping to the shed before bed' half hour. But that did include inevitable pottering and poking of other stuff..Fokker owes only a couple of leisurely hours so far. It's a nice simple little kit, not fighting, can't imagine it doubling that. Bit of a fraud compared to a Frog!

Yertis

18,016 posts

265 months

Monday 14th January 2019
quotequote all
gruffgriff said:
First red from the can and an exceedingly poor go at the tyres....best I can do in the 'nipping to the shed before bed' half hour. But that did include inevitable pottering and poking of other stuff..Fokker owes only a couple of leisurely hours so far. It's a nice simple little kit, not fighting, can't imagine it doubling that. Bit of a fraud compared to a Frog!
I wish I'd not done a Frog. I should have chosen an Airfix or Matchbox kit. I think it'll be quite cute when it's finished, but it's a bit like restoring a rusty old classic car – everything is taking three times longer than expected, and at the end you have an outdated model.

gruffgriff

1,577 posts

242 months

Monday 14th January 2019
quotequote all
As a 'car guy' having tackled some truly awful mpc kits over the years I hear you, but there is worthwhile satisfaction in creating a silk purse from a sow's ear (well, maybe just a presentable sow's ear!) even if it doesn't end up sitting shoulder to shoulder with higher quality stuff on the shelf.... ! I'm sure you're enjoying the battle deep down...

allegerita

253 posts

196 months

Monday 14th January 2019
quotequote all
Here is my progress update. Can't say I am very happy with the outcome. There are too many flaws, and only a part is shown in the photos. Mind, it is only brush painted, so no airbrush at all. Canopy masking was a nightmare, and I made the mistake to paint the entire plane upper side sand first. The sand color appears underneath the canopy frame red. Next step is final gloss coat and some minor wash.






Yertis

18,016 posts

265 months

Monday 14th January 2019
quotequote all
gruffgriff said:
I'm sure you're enjoying the battle deep down...
yes More than I expected actually.

Yertis

18,016 posts

265 months

Tuesday 22nd January 2019
quotequote all
Been away for a while but back home last night so able to get an hour in, during which I painted the prop blades. I'll strip them and paint them again in a couple of days, because the Xtracolour I used makes it look like I've painted them with pitch. Apparently you have to always use primer, and always thin it with the correct thinners. Honestly I didn't realise brush painting could be so tricky – it was never thus with Humbrol in the olden days.

I've also learned that I don't like using Milliput to fill joints etc – I found it quite tricky to get it exactly where I want it, and its a messy faff to kneed it together. However it is good where you need to build up some self-supporting structure. For example the front of the cockpit was about 1mm too long for the canopy, but Milliput built up the fuselage nicely. To fill the ropey joints I'm using Perfect Plastic Putty, which I'd never used before and very much like. Dries quickly but not too quickly, and sands easily to a very fine finish.

Anyway, photos soon.

Eric Mc

121,784 posts

264 months

Tuesday 22nd January 2019
quotequote all
I'm not a huge fan of Milliput because of the "messiness" factor. However, I do use it from time to time as it does do certain things very well.

For filler, I've been using this stuff for a while - water based and easy to smooth with a damp finger or cotton bud. I have a suspicion it might really be toothpaste without the mint.


Yertis

18,016 posts

265 months

Tuesday 22nd January 2019
quotequote all
Eric Mc said:
I'm not a huge fan of Milliput because of the "messiness" factor. However, I do use it from time to time as it does do certain things very well.

For filler, I've been using this stuff for a while - water based and easy to smooth with a damp finger or cotton bud. I have a suspicion it might really be toothpaste without the mint.

Yeah that's the stuff. I was going to say it's like toothpaste but it's a bit more viscous. More like well-mixed super-fine Polyfilla. Which is what I used to use... scratchchin.

Zad

12,695 posts

235 months

Tuesday 22nd January 2019
quotequote all
"Sprue goo" seems to be getting quite popular. Basically you take half a jar of Tamiya extra thin, and drop into it finely chopped up spare polystyrene sprue. Mix into a nice thick gloopy filler that dries the same consistency as the polystyrene components you are filling.