Airfix 1:72 Spitfire Mk 1a

Airfix 1:72 Spitfire Mk 1a

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Ayahuasca

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Wednesday 9th January 2019
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OK this is it. After years of reading threads here about building model aeroplanes I am finally going to have a go. I have not built a plastic model for over 30 years so I have no skills, experience or talent to call upon. But my daughter bought me this kit for Christmas.


Ayahuasca

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Wednesday 9th January 2019
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There is far more moulded detail - even on this tiny kit - than I remember from my childhood kits.



Colour chart on the box:



I am not too keen on the black / sky underside and the sky spinner, thinking of going all sky underneath and black spinner, with no fuselage sky band either, for more of a mainstream Battle of Britain look.

Ayahuasca

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Tried to glean some tips from other build threads (cheers Doc!) and it seems that gloss and matt varnishes are needed, together with filling putty. Got some yellow for the life jacket, some undercoat / primer and some metallic silver for any metallic silver bits. And some paintbrushes.

Gary29

4,146 posts

99 months

Wednesday 9th January 2019
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Great beginner kit this, even my mrs made a good go of one of these, so I'm sure you'll do fine!


danllama

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142 months

Wednesday 9th January 2019
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Last week I bought a similar starter set but the Hawker Typhoon, to complete as my first kit since my youth. The modern airfix kits really are quite nicely detailed and the instructions and decals look good too. I'm a decent way in to my Typhoon now but need to pick up some putty as you have, there's quite large gaps at the wing roots! I guess because of the stressed wing construction. Anyway i'll keep an eye out for your progress, can't beat a Mk1.

Eric Mc

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265 months

Wednesday 9th January 2019
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Best of luck. It's a decent enough kit although the panel lines are way too deep.

I'm not mad keen on the paints supplied in those starter packs though.

Yertis

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266 months

Thursday 10th January 2019
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Eric Mc said:
It's a decent enough kit although the panel lines are way too deep.
It's a shame, that. I don't know why manufacturers feel the need to put every panel line on – in reality they're extremely subtle, and often invisible. So, in most cases it would be more realistic to have no panel lines, just IMO.

Ayahuasca

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Yertis said:
Eric Mc said:
It's a decent enough kit although the panel lines are way too deep.
It's a shame, that. I don't know why manufacturers feel the need to put every panel line on – in reality they're extremely subtle, and often invisible. So, in most cases it would be more realistic to have no panel lines, just IMO.
Lines around the engine cowling / gun access panels or other opening bits seem fairly prominent on period photographed Spits. I will see if a coat or two of primer softens the other lines.

Yertis

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Thursday 10th January 2019
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Ayahuasca said:
Lines around the engine cowling / gun access panels or other opening bits seem fairly prominent on period photographed Spits. I will see if a coat or two of primer softens the other lines.
Exactly – I went off to look at Spit photos before posting. My "in most cases" comment was covering me for cowlings etc wink

Eric Mc

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Thursday 10th January 2019
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That's one of the reasons why I have no real issues with older kits which features raised panel lines.

Aitrfix did a previous MkI and a MkV which had raised lines and were quite nice kits.




robemcdonald

8,763 posts

196 months

Friday 11th January 2019
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Im looking forwards to seeing your progress on this one. As I mentioned on my MKI thread it’s a kit I built last year and really enjoyed doing so.

On the point of the panel lining, they’re deep, but in my opinion this helps the novice builders this kit is aimed at for a couple of reasons.
1. It means the builder can have a go at removing the seam between fuselage halves without losing too much detail.
2. Brush painting and the thicker coats that it inevitably brings won’t completely lose the panel lines either.

I know this hobby is different things to different people, but for me it’s the fun of the build that matters. I can forgive the odd inaccuracies providing I’m left with a model that I find satisfying to build and aesthetically pleasing.

Riley Blue

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226 months

Friday 11th January 2019
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Yertis said:
Ayahuasca said:
Lines around the engine cowling / gun access panels or other opening bits seem fairly prominent on period photographed Spits. I will see if a coat or two of primer softens the other lines.
Exactly – I went off to look at Spit photos before posting. My "in most cases" comment was covering me for cowlings etc wink
Some excellent close ups in the footage here: https://player.bfi.org.uk/free/film/watch-64-squad...

Ayahuasca

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Riley Blue said:
Yertis said:
Ayahuasca said:
Lines around the engine cowling / gun access panels or other opening bits seem fairly prominent on period photographed Spits. I will see if a coat or two of primer softens the other lines.
Exactly – I went off to look at Spit photos before posting. My "in most cases" comment was covering me for cowlings etc wink
Some excellent close ups in the footage here: https://player.bfi.org.uk/free/film/watch-64-squad...
Excellent film - thanks for posting.

Shows Spitfire MkVB's so a little later than my model.

Seems the pilot of the Spit named 'Atchashikar' that features prominently was the father of Iain Duncan Smith!

Eric Mc

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Friday 11th January 2019
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Ayahuasca said:
Excellent film - thanks for posting.

Shows Spitfire MkVB's so a little later than my model.

Seems the pilot of the Spit named 'Atchashikar' that features prominently was the father of Iain Duncan Smith!
He wrote a book of his experiences too - which I've read.

Ayahuasca

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Some great bits in that film - like people jumping on the wings and rubbing all the paint off.... the side of the windscreen not being exactly flush with the fuselage, a strange little post sticking out of the fuel tank cover next to the fuel filler cap in the scene of the Spit being refueled... none of which will make it convincingly onto my model... I liked the bit with the pilot standing up in the cockpit while taxiing, presumably to avoid having to weave left and right.

Ayahuasca

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Wednesday 16th January 2019
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First shots fired.

Made mistake of diluting paint with water for first application - result, paint does not stick to surface.

Moulding circle needs to be taken out of cockpit side.

No crowbar? No need, was not fitted to Spits of this vintage (model is supposed to be Dunkirk although I like the slightly later look).

Fuselage halves undercoated. Will apply a few coats and sand down between so panel lines are softened a bit.

Fuselage fit is poor so removed the pins (read about boring out the holes, but I do not possess a small enough drill). Without the pins the fit is much better.

Ayahuasca

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A bit more work on the cockpit sides.


Eric Mc

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I always spray my models with Halford's grey primer before proper painting. It helps the proper paint adhere.

Ayahuasca

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Wednesday 16th January 2019
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Not happy with the dark green cockpit sides (all modern Spits have much lighter green inside) so changed it again.


Ayahuasca

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Pilot looks like he has flown a bit too close to the face of god, and melted. No pink flesh colored paint so I guess I should make him a West Indian pilot. Experimented with a touch of gloss but he look like god has slimed him. Cockpit as good as my materials and skills permit.