FORD GT40 MKII 1/12TH TRUMPETER
Discussion
I relented to purchase this kit as i couldnt find anything around to build in 1/12th scale.
The only kit i could find was the discontinued Trumpeter one, a few still floating around the Web.
There are other diecast built models of varying quality out there but i wanted to build up a car to sit together with the ferrari 250 GTO ive built.
I also purchased the spare wheel,KA 00007 detail kit and Meng nuts and bolts in a attempt to bring out detail to replace missing detail and poor toylike aspects of this model, especially around the engine, gearbox.The rest of the kit looks great for detail and scaling. Its a challange im happy to embark on.
Started this kit last weekend.Theres Chrome, too much of it on so many parts ive had to bleach it off.
Im not doing a racing version or of any historical interest, just building a car id like to own one day. "If you dont have a dream how you going to make a dream come true"
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Here goes.
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The real thing, inlet manifold for Ford FE V8 to compare to.
The real thing, Ford T44 Gearbox to compare to.
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Other missing detail, no Distributor,no seperation lines for crankcase, cylinder head, no crancase breather, no starter motor etc. So ive already got some work to do before i really go into making this.
Less talk, more pictures.I trust this will help anyone out who may want to build the kit with extra detail.
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Cheers for now. Back to work
The only kit i could find was the discontinued Trumpeter one, a few still floating around the Web.
There are other diecast built models of varying quality out there but i wanted to build up a car to sit together with the ferrari 250 GTO ive built.
I also purchased the spare wheel,KA 00007 detail kit and Meng nuts and bolts in a attempt to bring out detail to replace missing detail and poor toylike aspects of this model, especially around the engine, gearbox.The rest of the kit looks great for detail and scaling. Its a challange im happy to embark on.
Started this kit last weekend.Theres Chrome, too much of it on so many parts ive had to bleach it off.
Im not doing a racing version or of any historical interest, just building a car id like to own one day. "If you dont have a dream how you going to make a dream come true"
.Here goes.
.The real thing, inlet manifold for Ford FE V8 to compare to.
The real thing, Ford T44 Gearbox to compare to.
.Other missing detail, no Distributor,no seperation lines for crankcase, cylinder head, no crancase breather, no starter motor etc. So ive already got some work to do before i really go into making this.
Less talk, more pictures.I trust this will help anyone out who may want to build the kit with extra detail.
.....[url].|https://thumbsnap.com/YZNZSxbV[/url]....Cheers for now. Back to work
AshVX220 said:
Settling in with some popcorn to watch this thread grow. 
Out of interest, how do these kits compare to something like Pocher (which I always assumed were the really Gucci car kits)?
Hi Ash. Out of interest, how do these kits compare to something like Pocher (which I always assumed were the really Gucci car kits)?
Very poor quality kit compared to Pocher. Looking at the GT40 kit only, it’s like they had a really good development engineer for the bodywork and detail parts, which is very good but left the engine, suspention development to a novice who just learnt to use cad/cam to deal with it. Like they couldn’t be bothered.Way to much chrome on most of the wrong parts.The Pocher stands on its own for detail, quality and there’s a company somewhere that does super detail kits for Pocher. I’ve built a Alfa Romeo car years ago,but realised it was too big to start building and collecting. If your a builder, the best detailed and reasonably priced kits are As far as im concearned Tamiya, there 1/24 scale kits are good as well.
henryk001 said:
Hi Ash.
Very poor quality kit compared to Pocher. Looking at the GT40 kit only, it’s like they had a really good development engineer for the bodywork and detail parts, which is very good but left the engine, suspention development to a novice who just learnt to use cad/cam to deal with it. Like they couldn’t be bothered.Way to much chrome on most of the wrong parts.The Pocher stands on its own for detail, quality and there’s a company somewhere that does super detail kits for Pocher. I’ve built a Alfa Romeo car years ago,but realised it was too big to start building and collecting. If your a builder, the best detailed and reasonably priced kits are As far as im concearned Tamiya, there 1/24 scale kits are good as well.
Hi Henry,Very poor quality kit compared to Pocher. Looking at the GT40 kit only, it’s like they had a really good development engineer for the bodywork and detail parts, which is very good but left the engine, suspention development to a novice who just learnt to use cad/cam to deal with it. Like they couldn’t be bothered.Way to much chrome on most of the wrong parts.The Pocher stands on its own for detail, quality and there’s a company somewhere that does super detail kits for Pocher. I’ve built a Alfa Romeo car years ago,but realised it was too big to start building and collecting. If your a builder, the best detailed and reasonably priced kits are As far as im concearned Tamiya, there 1/24 scale kits are good as well.
thanks for the reply, I'm not a modeller any more. I used to years ago, but was never anywhere near the talent of the guys on these threads (yourself included). I'd just heard of Pocher as being really nice (but expensive) kits. Was your Ferrari kit as good as a Pocher, or was it the additions you made or bought that really brought it to life?
Either way, really looking forward to another cool build thread to follow.
AshVX220 said:
Hi Henry,
thanks for the reply, I'm not a modeller any more. I used to years ago, but was never anywhere near the talent of the guys on these threads (yourself included). I'd just heard of Pocher as being really nice (but expensive) kits. Was your Ferrari kit as good as a Pocher, or was it the additions you made or bought that really brought it to life?
Either way, really looking forward to another cool build thread to follow.
.thanks for the reply, I'm not a modeller any more. I used to years ago, but was never anywhere near the talent of the guys on these threads (yourself included). I'd just heard of Pocher as being really nice (but expensive) kits. Was your Ferrari kit as good as a Pocher, or was it the additions you made or bought that really brought it to life?
Either way, really looking forward to another cool build thread to follow.
Hi! Ash.
Yes the Pocher kits are nice. The Ferrari kit, detailed parts are of the scale from Hiroboy in the UK had everything other than paint, glue and tools to make up the car.
Take a look on their website pick a car (full media kit) in 1.12th and you will see pictures of all the parts supplied with these kits.
The quality on materials are superb other than the white metal castings which as normal would need to be cleaned up.
Materials were .
Resin body, cast white metal parts, bonnet and boot, nickel silver wire, stainless tube, brass rod,turned alluminium,polished stainless parts, aluminium stampings for window fames tiny screws,rivets, plastic parts,loads of photo etched, leather, rubber etc,etc.
henryk001 said:
AshVX220 said:
Hi Henry,
thanks for the reply, I'm not a modeller any more. I used to years ago, but was never anywhere near the talent of the guys on these threads (yourself included). I'd just heard of Pocher as being really nice (but expensive) kits. Was your Ferrari kit as good as a Pocher, or was it the additions you made or bought that really brought it to life?
Either way, really looking forward to another cool build thread to follow.
.thanks for the reply, I'm not a modeller any more. I used to years ago, but was never anywhere near the talent of the guys on these threads (yourself included). I'd just heard of Pocher as being really nice (but expensive) kits. Was your Ferrari kit as good as a Pocher, or was it the additions you made or bought that really brought it to life?
Either way, really looking forward to another cool build thread to follow.
Hi! Ash.
Yes the Pocher kits are nice. The Ferrari kit, detailed parts are of the scale from Hiroboy in the UK had everything other than paint, glue and tools to make up the car.
Take a look on their website pick a car (full media kit) in 1.12th and you will see pictures of all the parts supplied with these kits.
The quality on materials are superb other than the white metal castings which as normal would need to be cleaned up.
Materials were .
Resin body, cast white metal parts, bonnet and boot, nickel silver wire, stainless tube, brass rod,turned alluminium,polished stainless parts, aluminium stampings for window fames tiny screws,rivets, plastic parts,loads of photo etched, leather, rubber etc,etc.
No wonder they cost big bucks!So more detail work.Did a anodised look to hopefully reflect some missing parts im going to make
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Gearbox endcover nuts added
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The Crankcase Ford blue was painted quite roughly as the casting would be rough.
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Distributor made with a sprue, cable tubing , CA glue , fast activator and turned down.
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Cheers for now
. . Gearbox endcover nuts added
. .The Crankcase Ford blue was painted quite roughly as the casting would be rough.
...Distributor made with a sprue, cable tubing , CA glue , fast activator and turned down.
... ..Cheers for now
robemcdonald said:
That is mad! Brilliant, but mad.
I think mine is going to be shelved after this build.
.I think mine is going to be shelved after this build.
Hi Rob, Don’t shelve the kit. You know you want to build it. Let me turn my madness into a stroke of genius. The kit cost 1/3 compared to the Ferrari. Including all the extras I bought.
All I need to do now is invest some free time. There are spare parts left over from the Ferrari that can be modified I can use. Broken models I’ve kept over the years. It will never be a quality build compared to the MFH kit, but I’ve saved myself a “monkey”. Your skills alone would make a quality model I’m sure. Go for it, or sell it you will probably double your investment depending on when you purchased yours. Cheers for now
robemcdonald said:
My only criticism is that you use Revell cement. Should be Tamiya extra thin......
Just kidding. You’re flying through this one.
The revel cement is about 15 years old. It won’t glue, and I was going to throw it away but found that it does help with holding things in position and allowing the part to be manipulated before finally using extra thin which is pretty instant. I don’t know if I’m rushing this or not but it’s going a lot easier being all plastic than having to file and clean up so many metal parts in my previous build. Sorry to read about the cxxp you were getting on another forum. If that’s what they are about I’m not going there nor want to be associated to it. CheersJust kidding. You’re flying through this one.
I have to admit to being one of those dreaded "rivet counters" when it comes to the McLaren/Amon GT40. 
It was raced again in different colours after its Le Mans win and in updated MkIIb trim in 1967. Ford later repainted it black and silver, but still in 1967 trim. The Trumpeter kit is an accurate model of this car, but not of the 1966 race winner! I have a painting (well print) of the car at the 1966 race with the same errors and it drives me mad.
I'm pleased to say that the car has recently been (very) accurately restored to its race-winning condition.
It was raced again in different colours after its Le Mans win and in updated MkIIb trim in 1967. Ford later repainted it black and silver, but still in 1967 trim. The Trumpeter kit is an accurate model of this car, but not of the 1966 race winner! I have a painting (well print) of the car at the 1966 race with the same errors and it drives me mad.
I'm pleased to say that the car has recently been (very) accurately restored to its race-winning condition.
CanAm said:
I have to admit to being one of those dreaded "rivet counters" when it comes to the McLaren/Amon GT40.
It was raced again in different colours after its Le Mans win and in updated MkIIb trim in 1967. Ford later repainted it black and silver, but still in 1967 trim. The Trumpeter kit is an accurate model of this car, but not of the 1966 race winner! I have a painting (well print) of the car at the 1966 race with the same errors and it drives me mad.
I'm pleased to say that the car has recently been (very) accurately restored to its race-winning condition.
.It was raced again in different colours after its Le Mans win and in updated MkIIb trim in 1967. Ford later repainted it black and silver, but still in 1967 trim. The Trumpeter kit is an accurate model of this car, but not of the 1966 race winner! I have a painting (well print) of the car at the 1966 race with the same errors and it drives me mad.
I'm pleased to say that the car has recently been (very) accurately restored to its race-winning condition.
Is this the web-site for the rebuilt car? .
http://gt40.rkmotorscharlotte.com/car/
Im using it as a reference for the tiny details to help me on my model.
I think its ok to be critical about the history of the particular car you have a interest in, so i wouldnt class you as a rivit counter.
. Moreover as a true enthusiast. Cheershenryk001 said:
Is this the web-site for the rebuilt car? .
http://gt40.rkmotorscharlotte.com/car/
Im using it as a reference for the tiny details to help me on my model.
I think its ok to be critical about the history of the particular car you have a interest in, so i wouldnt class you as a rivit counter.. Moreover as a true enthusiast. Cheer
http://gt40.rkmotorscharlotte.com/car/
Im using it as a reference for the tiny details to help me on my model.
I think its ok to be critical about the history of the particular car you have a interest in, so i wouldnt class you as a rivit counter.
. Moreover as a true enthusiast. CheerThat's the one!
One thing I only recently found out was that the 'monocoques' were dark blue, not black. Most of the period photos were black and white and you have to be very careful that photos you're using aren't of restored cars. Except this one!
Of course, as a 'What If' car, you could have had it in any finish you liked.
Edited by CanAm on Monday 25th March 18:36
CanAm said:
That's the one!
One thing I only recently found out was that the 'monocoques' were dark blue, not black. Most of the period photos were black and white and you have to be very careful that photos you're using aren't of restored cars. Except this one!
Of course, as a 'What If' car, you could have had it in any finish you liked.
Yes I like the idea of the blue, doing it in a dark blue and thinking about finishing the body in a dark metallic silver/grey. Talking about rivet counting, I recently surcomed to rivet counting flu. I found a site of a very good modeller who was building this kit to a very high quality, but noticed that he had added a oil filter assembly to the side of the crankcase when it should have been installed as a stand alone unit on the chassis.I haven’t mentioned it. “ oh no I’m turning to the dark side. One thing I only recently found out was that the 'monocoques' were dark blue, not black. Most of the period photos were black and white and you have to be very careful that photos you're using aren't of restored cars. Except this one!
Of course, as a 'What If' car, you could have had it in any finish you liked.
Edited by CanAm on Monday 25th March 18:36
Heres a bit of extra work using the supplied KA models PE hose clips but i dont like them very much. Im going to make them in the same way on the other coolant pipe as i did on the Ferrari.
Heat shrink expanded (yes not shrunk) over the pipes
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Found the screws nut assembly a bit to clunky for my liking
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Heat shrink for the other side
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Ka models white metal pulleys used
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Cheers for now.
Heat shrink expanded (yes not shrunk) over the pipes
.Found the screws nut assembly a bit to clunky for my liking
..Heat shrink for the other side
..Ka models white metal pulleys used
.Cheers for now.
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