Model Railway Wanton Vandalism.. :(

Model Railway Wanton Vandalism.. :(

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Plinth

713 posts

87 months

Monday 20th May 2019
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The donations keep on coming - "Miniatur Wunderland Hamburg" have sent £5,000

Total now just over £75,000

dr_gn

16,140 posts

183 months

Monday 20th May 2019
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Plinth said:
The donations keep on coming - "Miniatur Wunderland Hamburg" have sent £5,000

Total now just over £75,000
Been there a few times - that’s fantastic.

I think the money donated is as much about decent people expressing disgust at the situation as much as trying to replace models. There’s something about model railways and their owners that is just ‘nice’, and the contrast with this horrible act against them and the scum that did it couldn’t be greater.

MarkwG

4,812 posts

188 months

Monday 20th May 2019
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dr_gn said:
Plinth said:
The donations keep on coming - "Miniatur Wunderland Hamburg" have sent £5,000

Total now just over £75,000
Been there a few times - that’s fantastic.

I think the money donated is as much about decent people expressing disgust at the situation as much as trying to replace models. There’s something about model railways and their owners that is just ‘nice’, and the contrast with this horrible act against them and the scum that did it couldn’t be greater.
Fully agree - I use Miniatur Wunderland videos as intros for presentations, everyone loves them irrespective of the audience, & whilst model railways aren't really my thing, there's something very peaceable about the whole process & destruction of same is appalling & shameful.

red_slr

17,123 posts

188 months

Monday 19th August 2019
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Aaaannnd the punishment....

12-month referral order
£500 fine
£85 prosecution costs
£20 victim surcharge

What a joke.

crofty1984

15,830 posts

203 months

Monday 19th August 2019
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red_slr said:
Aaaannnd the punishment....

12-month referral order
£500 fine
£85 prosecution costs
£20 victim surcharge

What a joke.
What the fk is a referral order?

red_slr

17,123 posts

188 months

Monday 19th August 2019
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Basically sit down in a room with some youth workers and "discuss" the offence and how it made the victim feel. Then they will make some suggestions to prevent re-offending.

Usually ends in the offender writing a letter of apology.

Normally they may have to do some tasks too, such as picking litter at school or doing some extra education. If its been drink or drugs they might have to take a course on addiction, for example. Of course the tax payer will cover the cost..

All told, they might lose a few days out of their life over the course of a year.

Pathetic.


Eric Mc

121,783 posts

264 months

Monday 19th August 2019
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What do you think should the sentence be then?

I think they should be made attend the model railway club for six months running helping with the layouts and operations - whether they want to or not.

Shuvi McTupya

24,460 posts

246 months

Monday 19th August 2019
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Eric Mc said:
What do you think should the sentence be then?

I think they should be made attend the model railway club for six months running helping with the layouts and operations - whether they want to or not.
Sounds good in theory but all you would end up with is a rude lazy scrote doing his very best to not be the least bit helpful. "It just broke, I didn't touch it, It wasn't me, I'm going for a smoke, You cant make me do anything"

anonymous-user

53 months

Monday 19th August 2019
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This, from the wail, on sentencing options



https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7370797/G...

The_Jackal

4,854 posts

196 months

Monday 19th August 2019
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How do they have good futures if they have no problem destroying people's prides and joy and money?
Maybe the judge will never be affected by these sts, with his privileged life but loads of normal hardworking people will.

At least bloody tag them for a year with an early curfew to cause them some st for a bit.
Maybe one day someone will kick their back doors in and destroy their houses.

Eric Mc

121,783 posts

264 months

Monday 19th August 2019
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Shuvi McTupya said:
Sounds good in theory but all you would end up with is a rude lazy scrote doing his very best to not be the least bit helpful. "It just broke, I didn't touch it, It wasn't me, I'm going for a smoke, You cant make me do anything"
You may get that - but then again, you may not. I'd give it a go and if some or all of them were uncooperative, I'd hand the miscreants back to the court for an alternative sentence.

Fast and Spurious

1,295 posts

87 months

Monday 19th August 2019
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Eric Mc said:
You may get that - but then again, you may not.
I agree, I think it would be a great solution.

55palfers

5,893 posts

163 months

Monday 19th August 2019
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Perhaps if their X Boxes, phones, cycles, trainers, iPads, etc., etc. were destroyed?

Fore Left

1,411 posts

181 months

Monday 19th August 2019
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Make them smash their own possessions to smithereens. See how they like it.

edit; beaten to it (no pun intended biggrin)

dr_gn

16,140 posts

183 months

Monday 19th August 2019
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If a group of s like that all end up having good futures, Brexit will have been a massive success after all.

Divide the £30k of damage between them, compensate the club and make them do full time community service until it’s paid back to the taxpayer in full. Then stick them back into the education system where they left it and give them a choice between relevant qualifications or prison at the end of it.

Little tts.

russy01

4,693 posts

180 months

Monday 19th August 2019
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I understand they are minors - so actions are limited.

But the compensation amounts they have to pay is a joke... the full monetary value (and extra for compensation) should be paid by them. Even if it was like a Uni loan, i.e pay when earning X.

The punishment they've received will be easily forgotten - I'd want the gits to be making payments for the next 10yrs so they can remember what grief they caused.

I have a friend who was caught drink driving and it's a similar story, after 1/2 yeas of expensive insurance premiums their rates went pretty much back to normal. I expected them to face a hefty additional premium every year, as a gentle reminder of what a douche they once were!!!

bigpriest

1,577 posts

129 months

Monday 19th August 2019
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anonymous said:
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I don't think it would make a positive difference. Yes it would bloody hurt but the main impact of the birch was social embarrassment in an era when it actually mattered to feel shame. That's long gone. You'd be left with angry lads wanting to get revenge and being cowards they'd go for an easy target.

robemcdonald

8,716 posts

195 months

Monday 19th August 2019
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This is going to be unpopular, but I think rehabilitation is going to be a lot more worthwhile than giving them the birch etc...
We’ve all done stupid stuff. Whilst I’d like to think I’d never have been quite so stupid...

I’d prefer to see the culprits reformed into useful members of society.


zarjaz1991

3,471 posts

122 months

Monday 19th August 2019
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robemcdonald said:
This is going to be unpopular, but I think rehabilitation is going to be a lot more worthwhile than giving them the birch etc...
We’ve all done stupid stuff. Whilst I’d like to think I’d never have been quite so stupid...

I’d prefer to see the culprits reformed into useful members of society.
I've never done anything anywhere as stupid, selfish, nasty, spiteful and vindictive as what they did.

I'm not interested in rehabilitation. They had their chance. They should now be in prison.

Prison works, because while inside they can't do this sort of again.

robemcdonald

8,716 posts

195 months

Monday 19th August 2019
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zarjaz1991 said:
I've never done anything anywhere as stupid, selfish, nasty, spiteful and vindictive as what they did.

I'm not interested in rehabilitation. They had their chance. They should now be in prison.

Prison works, because while inside they can't do this sort of again.
Fortunately we don’t send kids to prison in this country. I wonder how many people sent to prison for a misdemeanour have gone in as delinquents and come out as criminals?

What they did was awful, but at the end of the day no one was hurt (physically at least). The club has been supported by many patrons (myself included) so the financial impact simply isn’t there.

Only time has been lost. Yes it’s the most precious commodity, but everything can be rebuilt.