( Ex ) copper gets away with murder?

[BrundanBianchi]

https://www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/18827691.timothy-...

Okay, 10 years for that? I didn’t hear the evidence first hand, but really? Surely anyone else would have got life, and it would have been murder.

[Wacky Racer]

So are you suggesting he got special treatment because he was a policeman?

Verdict was manslaughter.

[BrundanBianchi]

Wacky Racer said:

So are you suggesting he got special treatment because he was a policeman?

Verdict was manslaughter.

Like I said, I wasn’t party to the evidence, first hand. But it seems extremely odd that the plea of guilty to manslaughter was accepted, and he wasn’t tried for murder. I’m sure he’ll be having a whale of a time for his 6 and a half years in chokey.

Edited by BrundanBianchi on Wednesday 28th October 17:51

[Elroy Blue]

BrundanBianchi said:

Like I said, I wasn’t party to the evidence, first hand. But it seems extremely odd that the plea of guilty to manslaughter was accepted, and he wasn’t tried for murder.

He was tried for murder.

[BrundanBianchi]

Elroy Blue said:

He was tried for murder.

Ah yes, you’re correct, he was tried and acquitted of murder. I’ve no idea how though, given what I can garner from the case.

[Wacky Racer]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-dorset-54716...

[Mojooo]

Literally says it in the 2nd paragraph

[bitchstewie]

This thread (and several linked threads) from The Secret Barrister are worth a read.

https://twitter.com/BarristerSecret/status/1321425...

[Red 4]

BrundanBianchi said:

Wacky Racer said:

So are you suggesting he got special treatment because he was a policeman?

Verdict was manslaughter.

Like I said, I wasn’t party to the evidence, first hand. But it seems extremely odd that the plea of guilty to manslaughter was accepted, and he wasn’t tried for murder.

You'll need to prove intent to kill or commit GBH for murder.
That appears to be the issue here.
His defence appears to be that it was a rush of blood to the head and there was no intent.

Life imprisonment for manslaughter is possible but rare.

[Legacywr]

The bloke sounds like a right whatever the verdict.

Let’s see how many affairs he has in prison

[BrundanBianchi]

Red 4 said:

You'll need to prove intent to kill or commit GBH for murder.
That appears to be the issue here.
His defence appears to be that it was a rush of blood to the head and there was no intent.

Life imprisonment for manslaughter is possible but rare.

So ‘Crime passionnel’ then? I’m sure that’s a uniquely French thing.

[BrundanBianchi]

Legacywr said:

The bloke sounds like a right whatever the verdict.

Let’s see how many affairs he has in prison

Quite. He will do 6 and a half years in chokey, the rest on licence. I’m sure he’ll enjoy every minute of his incarceration.

[Brave Fart]

BrundanBianchi said:

Like I said, I wasn’t party to the evidence, first hand. But it seems extremely odd that the plea of guilty to manslaughter was accepted, and he wasn’t tried for murder. I’m sure he’ll be having a whale of a time for his 6 and a half years in chokey.

Edited by BrundanBianchi on Wednesday 28th October 17:51

I'd say that if you're starting a thread suggesting bias in the justice system you should 1) know what the defendant was actually tried for and 2) read up on the details of the evidence (like the Secret Barrister's tweets).
Otherwise, you'd look like a fool.

[Red 4]

BrundanBianchi said:

Red 4 said:

You'll need to prove intent to kill or commit GBH for murder.
That appears to be the issue here.
His defence appears to be that it was a rush of blood to the head and there was no intent.

Life imprisonment for manslaughter is possible but rare.

So ‘Crime passionnel’ then? I’m sure that’s a uniquely French thing.

It isn't. HTH.

[BrundanBianchi]

Brave Fart said:

I'd say that if you're starting a thread suggesting bias in the justice system you should 1) know what the defendant was actually tried for and 2) read up on the details of the evidence (like the Secret Barrister's tweets).
Otherwise, you'd look like a fool.

I have done, even the ‘secret barrister’ admits it was super complicated. Anyone who didn’t see that bit, but posted stuff anyway would look like a ‘fool’.

[Smiljan]

bhstewie said:

This thread (and several linked threads) from The Secret Barrister are worth a read.

https://twitter.com/BarristerSecret/status/1321425...

Am I missing something, that all seems to be about politics, migrants, EU. Not a murder trial

[BrundanBianchi]

Smiljan said:

Am I missing something, that all seems to be about politics, migrants, EU. Not a murder trial

The latest bits are to do with this trial, the earlier bits aren’t.

[BrundanBianchi]

Red 4 said:

It isn't. HTH.

Every day’s a school day. So that is a defence in the British justice system then?

[bitchstewie]

Smiljan said:

Am I missing something, that all seems to be about politics, migrants, EU. Not a murder trial

Hmm if I use that link it takes me straight to a thread that's about the verdict?

[Red 4]

BrundanBianchi said:

Red 4 said:

It isn't. HTH.

Every day’s a school day. So that is a defence in the British justice system then?

Loss of control ? Yes, it's a defence.