Renault Clio RS CUP 200
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I'm looking at below car this week.
https://morgancars.net/used-cars/2010-renault-clio...
What are these like to run on a daily basis?
What should I look out for?
Prices seems to be stable on these at this stage of their life?
https://morgancars.net/used-cars/2010-renault-clio...
What are these like to run on a daily basis?
What should I look out for?
Prices seems to be stable on these at this stage of their life?
I used to sell these and I've ever heard of "Double effect suspension", let alone it being part of the Cup Pack.
Good fun, hard work if you aren't in the mood, this one is billy basic spec, thirsty and yes the Recaros wear and if you are a tad portly they can be uncomfy, also getting in and out for the first few times can smart a bit until you become used to the very rigid side bolsters on the base.
Good fun, hard work if you aren't in the mood, this one is billy basic spec, thirsty and yes the Recaros wear and if you are a tad portly they can be uncomfy, also getting in and out for the first few times can smart a bit until you become used to the very rigid side bolsters on the base.
HTP99 said:
I used to sell these and I've ever heard of "Double effect suspension", let alone it being part of the Cup Pack.
Good fun, hard work if you aren't in the mood, this one is billy basic spec, thirsty and yes the Recaros wear and if you are a tad portly they can be uncomfy, also getting in and out for the first few times can smart a bit until you become used to the very rigid side bolsters on the base.
Me either. Odd that it has a 'sports exhaust' too. Good fun, hard work if you aren't in the mood, this one is billy basic spec, thirsty and yes the Recaros wear and if you are a tad portly they can be uncomfy, also getting in and out for the first few times can smart a bit until you become used to the very rigid side bolsters on the base.
Steering wheel looks worn and the radio buttons are f
ked too. I would pass on it.
First, ignore the listed 44.1 mpg, you'll rarely get it out of the 20s. They're also sensitive to the type of petrol, ours feels sluggish with BP Ultimate 97 but loves Sainsbury's Premium 97 ( we can't get V-Power or Momentum in NI )
The 200s don't like town driving in low gear, particularly with the BP petrol they can kangaroo at low speeds unless you slip the clutch a little.
Check that the cambelt / dephaser / water pump have been changed in the last 8000 to 12000 miles, if not then you're looking at £800+ so price that in. Check the upshift from 2nd to 3rd after driving for a few minutes to warm it up, if it's hard to get into 3rd then gearbox replacement lies ahead. Ours lives mainly in 3rd / 4th gear for B-road fun so those changes get hammered constantly. 6th gear is OK at about 3000rpm for motorway work but if you're using that gear much you're doing it wrong!
The cabin is well screwed-together but but with a few silly gotchas. The cigarette lighter socket is located behind the handbrake, so if you want a dashcam you end-up with long cables taped along the tunnel and up the dash. Boot is small and doesn't have any cubby holes so first aid kits etc slide around constantly. Rear seats on the 2010+ models only have two seatbelts. OEM speakers are crap, if that's important to you.
The 200s don't like town driving in low gear, particularly with the BP petrol they can kangaroo at low speeds unless you slip the clutch a little.
Check that the cambelt / dephaser / water pump have been changed in the last 8000 to 12000 miles, if not then you're looking at £800+ so price that in. Check the upshift from 2nd to 3rd after driving for a few minutes to warm it up, if it's hard to get into 3rd then gearbox replacement lies ahead. Ours lives mainly in 3rd / 4th gear for B-road fun so those changes get hammered constantly. 6th gear is OK at about 3000rpm for motorway work but if you're using that gear much you're doing it wrong!
The cabin is well screwed-together but but with a few silly gotchas. The cigarette lighter socket is located behind the handbrake, so if you want a dashcam you end-up with long cables taped along the tunnel and up the dash. Boot is small and doesn't have any cubby holes so first aid kits etc slide around constantly. Rear seats on the 2010+ models only have two seatbelts. OEM speakers are crap, if that's important to you.
Edited by FA57REN on Thursday 31st October 09:15
My wife drives the car most days to work she gets 34.5 and a few weeks ago she was on a course in our local city and was getting 38 to the gallon. Steady driver and stays within the speed limits due to her job being a coach driver.
Our Clio had the belts and tensioners etc done last year at our local Renault dealer at a cost of just over a thousand euros.
Never had any kangarooing in the four years we have owned it and it get 98 petrol at out local supermarket station.
Gearbox is good and strong with a stiff push into first gear on start up from cold,other than that no problems with the gearbox.
I know we are doing it wrong by the way,but my mrs rarely goes above 4,000 revs at any time.
Our Clio had the belts and tensioners etc done last year at our local Renault dealer at a cost of just over a thousand euros.
Never had any kangarooing in the four years we have owned it and it get 98 petrol at out local supermarket station.
Gearbox is good and strong with a stiff push into first gear on start up from cold,other than that no problems with the gearbox.
I know we are doing it wrong by the way,but my mrs rarely goes above 4,000 revs at any time.
Edited by magooagain on Thursday 31st October 12:44
From memory I think that Renault tweaked the ECU in later production to reduce kangarooing. Ours is 2010 and really doesn't like slow-crawl traffic, it's particularly bad with 95 octane boggo petrol so we avoid that entirely.
They're cracking wee cars otherwise. We are fotunate that a right-turn out of the driveway puts us onto a quiet rural C-road and before you know it you're grinning like a maniac and the upshift beep is singing away.
We were tempted to get a similar-vintage cooking model Clio as a general runabout to save miles on the 200, but they're just so dull and lethargic compared to the Dieppe version that we're looking for a high-miles 200 instead!
They're cracking wee cars otherwise. We are fotunate that a right-turn out of the driveway puts us onto a quiet rural C-road and before you know it you're grinning like a maniac and the upshift beep is singing away.
We were tempted to get a similar-vintage cooking model Clio as a general runabout to save miles on the 200, but they're just so dull and lethargic compared to the Dieppe version that we're looking for a high-miles 200 instead!
Edited by FA57REN on Thursday 31st October 15:21
FA57REN said:
First, ignore the listed 44.1 mpg, you'll rarely get it out of the 20s. They're also sensitive to the type of petrol, ours feels sluggish with BP Ultimate 97 but loves Sainsbury's Premium 97 ( we can't get V-Power or Momentum in NI )
The 200s don't like town driving in low gear, particularly with the BP petrol they can kangaroo at low speeds unless you slip the clutch a little.
Check that the cambelt / dephaser / water pump have been changed in the last 8000 to 12000 miles, if not then you're looking at £800+ so price that in. Check the upshift from 2nd to 3rd after driving for a few minutes to warm it up, if it's hard to get into 3rd then gearbox replacement lies ahead. Ours lives mainly in 3rd / 4th gear for B-road fun so those changes get hammered constantly. 6th gear is OK at about 3000rpm for motorway work but if you're using that gear much you're doing it wrong!
The cabin is well screwed-together but but with a few silly gotchas. The cigarette lighter socket is located behind the handbrake, so if you want a dashcam you end-up with long cables taped along the tunnel and up the dash. Boot is small and doesn't have any cubby holes so first aid kits etc slide around constantly. Rear seats on the 2010+ models only have two seatbelts. OEM speakers are crap, if that's important to you.
Very helpful. Thanks.The 200s don't like town driving in low gear, particularly with the BP petrol they can kangaroo at low speeds unless you slip the clutch a little.
Check that the cambelt / dephaser / water pump have been changed in the last 8000 to 12000 miles, if not then you're looking at £800+ so price that in. Check the upshift from 2nd to 3rd after driving for a few minutes to warm it up, if it's hard to get into 3rd then gearbox replacement lies ahead. Ours lives mainly in 3rd / 4th gear for B-road fun so those changes get hammered constantly. 6th gear is OK at about 3000rpm for motorway work but if you're using that gear much you're doing it wrong!
The cabin is well screwed-together but but with a few silly gotchas. The cigarette lighter socket is located behind the handbrake, so if you want a dashcam you end-up with long cables taped along the tunnel and up the dash. Boot is small and doesn't have any cubby holes so first aid kits etc slide around constantly. Rear seats on the 2010+ models only have two seatbelts. OEM speakers are crap, if that's important to you.
Edited by FA57REN on Thursday 31st October 09:15
Anyone going for that Clio from Morgan Cars would be advised to haggle another £500 off for a set of decent tyres... Looks like bottom-of-market ditchfinders on it; BOTO is actually a brand?!
Before we turned-up to test drive the one we bought from a local dealer he had already had it reshod with four new Michelin PS4 tyres...
Before we turned-up to test drive the one we bought from a local dealer he had already had it reshod with four new Michelin PS4 tyres...
Edited by FA57REN on Friday 1st November 09:18
HTP99 said:
I used to sell these and I've ever heard of "Double effect suspension", let alone it being part of the Cup Pack.
I reckon they refer to hydraulic bump stops but I thought these only appeared in the next gen Clio RS with the 1.6t.They may have copied that from the wrong car.
FA57REN said:
...ours feels sluggish with BP Ultimate 97 but loves Sainsbury's Premium 97
This is amazing. Seriously though?! It's exactly the same stuff and most likely delivered by the same supplier such as Greenenergy (or the like) in different branded trucks so I suspect what you're describing is actually a placebo effect
I’m assuming the double effect suspension is referring to the double axis suspension where the steering axis is separate from the suspension unlike a typical McPherson strut setup.
I have one of these and love it but would want to know a car around 60k miles had the front ball joints replaced as they often need doing at this point and it’s an expensive job, other wise you will need to budget for that, it will manifest itself as creaking from the front when turning usually.
Flexi joints on the exhaust manifold are something else to look out for, they all go at some point.
Syncros as mentioned previously is a common thing on 3rd and 4th gear, mine had its box replaced under warranty for this. The belts and dephaser also already pointed out.
That’s the main things to look out for they are otherwise pretty solid cars.
I have one of these and love it but would want to know a car around 60k miles had the front ball joints replaced as they often need doing at this point and it’s an expensive job, other wise you will need to budget for that, it will manifest itself as creaking from the front when turning usually.
Flexi joints on the exhaust manifold are something else to look out for, they all go at some point.
Syncros as mentioned previously is a common thing on 3rd and 4th gear, mine had its box replaced under warranty for this. The belts and dephaser also already pointed out.
That’s the main things to look out for they are otherwise pretty solid cars.
p4cks said:
This is amazing. Seriously though?!
It's exactly the same stuff and most likely delivered by the same supplier such as Greenenergy (or the like) in different branded trucks so I suspect what you're describing is actually a placebo effect
You're probably right, though different additive packs are added at the NI docks according to retailer branding.It's exactly the same stuff and most likely delivered by the same supplier such as Greenenergy (or the like) in different branded trucks so I suspect what you're describing is actually a placebo effect
We're back on Sainsbury now and the first gear kangarooing has gone. We'll have to do a proper blind test sometime...
FA57REN said:
Anyone going for that Clio from Morgan Cars would be advised to haggle another £500 off for a set of decent tyres... Looks like bottom-of-market ditchfinders on it; BOTO is actually a brand?!
That advert states it has a cup package which is not true it is the cup version, so without all the mod cons like the 'full fat' version has, which does have the cup suspension.Edited by FA57REN on Friday 1st November 09:18
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