New Citroen c5x
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Something recently learnt as this officially launched this week. Citroen UK have an agreement with Citroen that the only C5Xs to be imported will have been built to order. No sales to be made to the rental fleets. The aim is to prevent depreciation due to large quantities being brought in then having to be off loaded at a big discount. Make of that what you will. Still fairly rare in showrooms it seems.
Forgot, sat in a GS Line Astra (hatch) yesterday. Seat instantly more comfortable than the C5X tried. Ref earlier comment about massage seats. Cabin smaller, only to be expected C class vs D class, even though both are on EMP2 platform, and the Astra tourer is 200mm shorter most of which appears to be lost in rear seat legroom.
Dunno, hanging off for a bit until test drives available.
Forgot, sat in a GS Line Astra (hatch) yesterday. Seat instantly more comfortable than the C5X tried. Ref earlier comment about massage seats. Cabin smaller, only to be expected C class vs D class, even though both are on EMP2 platform, and the Astra tourer is 200mm shorter most of which appears to be lost in rear seat legroom.
Dunno, hanging off for a bit until test drives available.
I believe that the same applies to DS cars. No sales to rental fleets and build to order only. The idea being to preserve residuals.
It also makes sense in a limited supply environment.
CAR magazine gave it a great review.
I will take a look soon. The smaller boot (compared to full size estates) doesn't bother me. For me the question is whether it feels special; whether it has that "big French car" quirkiness and luxury that I had in the DS5 and Espace.
It also makes sense in a limited supply environment.
CAR magazine gave it a great review.
I will take a look soon. The smaller boot (compared to full size estates) doesn't bother me. For me the question is whether it feels special; whether it has that "big French car" quirkiness and luxury that I had in the DS5 and Espace.
Some good news for once, our local dealership now has a demonstrator in and is currently being prepped for the showroom. I imagine in the next week or so there will be a launch event and then test drives will start.
I've been reading the reviews that have been published this week, mostly positive which is good to see.
I've been reading the reviews that have been published this week, mostly positive which is good to see.
Raptor79 said:
He placed an order for the 130 Shine Plus model at the beginning of March, he didn't expect it for sometime so hadn't been in contact with his dealer but last week he popped in to see if they had any news, they checked on their system for him and said it was scheduled to be built in July in Spain
So the latest from the dealer is it's not being built in Spain but still China and the scheduled build date is now October, oh well but no idea where they got the Spain info from.I wasn't able to go but my Dad finally got to see the C5X in person, wasn't allowed to drive it but the salesman took him out for ride.
Pros
+ Excellent ride and comfort (Hybrid has better suspension than the other models)
+ Lots of space
+ Didn't feel as big as the reviews make you think
Cons
- Amazonite grey colour was awful (thankfully not the colour he has ordered)
- High bonnet made visibility difficult, seat adjustment helped though
He wasn't as impressed as he had hoped, maybe once he gets behind the wheel himself he'll feel better about it. I also think the colour made a massive impact on his first impressions.
The platinum grey / black roof that I looked at was fine.
However since I borrowed a Perla Black C4 as a service loan vehicle and then seen it looking spectacular in the same colour in this Vanarama video I've been wondering. Incidentally don't let the scruffy reviewer put you off, I just dialled him out.
https://youtu.be/_n8iOC-_-ic
Of course this doesn't alter the age old issue that black looks great but only as long as it's super clean.
Been informed by someone who's seen the standard blue that blue is stunning. Still all academic given availability.
Speaking of academic, mentioned the Astra Sports Tourer recently launched not going to be in showrooms just to look at until end of 22 / early 23. So with the winter energy issues in Europe are dates going to go even further out.
I'm putting the whole thing on hold for a bit.
However since I borrowed a Perla Black C4 as a service loan vehicle and then seen it looking spectacular in the same colour in this Vanarama video I've been wondering. Incidentally don't let the scruffy reviewer put you off, I just dialled him out.
https://youtu.be/_n8iOC-_-ic
Of course this doesn't alter the age old issue that black looks great but only as long as it's super clean.
Been informed by someone who's seen the standard blue that blue is stunning. Still all academic given availability.
Speaking of academic, mentioned the Astra Sports Tourer recently launched not going to be in showrooms just to look at until end of 22 / early 23. So with the winter energy issues in Europe are dates going to go even further out.
I'm putting the whole thing on hold for a bit.
AmitG said:
Interesting. I was thinking about getting Amazonite Grey, I believe it's the colour that they use in all the PR material?
Which colour did your dad go for in the end?
He went for Cumulus Grey - https://web21st.imgix.net/assets/images/new-vehicl...Which colour did your dad go for in the end?
I quite like the blue personally, my Dad's DS5 is dark purple which i think would look good on the C5X especially in bright sunshine.
Matt from Carwow has just put up his review - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GoreaZQaxK4&t=...
He really likes it, but that optional £1300 sunroof looks pretty bad imo.
FiF said:
The platinum grey / black roof that I looked at was fine.
However since I borrowed a Perla Black C4 as a service loan vehicle and then seen it looking spectacular in the same colour in this Vanarama video I've been wondering. Incidentally don't let the scruffy reviewer put you off, I just dialled him out.
https://youtu.be/_n8iOC-_-ic
I quite liked his review, first impressions were not the best but by the end i thought it was very informative.However since I borrowed a Perla Black C4 as a service loan vehicle and then seen it looking spectacular in the same colour in this Vanarama video I've been wondering. Incidentally don't let the scruffy reviewer put you off, I just dialled him out.
https://youtu.be/_n8iOC-_-ic
got quoted 10 weeks delivery today for 180 ICE Shine Plus in Black.Which in theory suggests might get it before Raptor79's Dad who ordered way back in the sands of time.
If you believe that delivery then easy to believe Bill Clinton really did not have relations with Monica L. More
Side note, clearly the Pug 408 and the yet to be revealed VX Insignia(?) are going to be a twist on the same vehicle.
The 408 actually looks very cool. I think it has frameless doors? The website doesn't say so, but looking at the profile, I think it must do.
Interior looks very cool (IMHO) although the central screen is only 10". With the C5X you can have up to 12".
The only ICE engine available is the 130BHP, but that would be fine for me. With the C5X I might have gone for that anyway.
I'm intrigued to see how it is priced versus C5X.
I'm going to ask my Citroen dealer about realistic C5X delivery dates (I trust them to be realistic) and then make a decision from there...
Interior looks very cool (IMHO) although the central screen is only 10". With the C5X you can have up to 12".
The only ICE engine available is the 130BHP, but that would be fine for me. With the C5X I might have gone for that anyway.
I'm intrigued to see how it is priced versus C5X.
I'm going to ask my Citroen dealer about realistic C5X delivery dates (I trust them to be realistic) and then make a decision from there...
I don't particularly get on with the Peugeot interior, yes it looks cool but it doesn't gel with me practically speaking.
Also it will depend on a test drive but as per an early post think I've decided the 130 C5X will be a bit underpowered so may go for the 180 4 pot. OK I get it's not for racing about and more for comfortable wafting. But I've been driving another Citroen with the same 3pot 130 engine and 8 speed auto combination as in the C5X. Can see that there are situations where with a full load onboard the engine is having to really work hard especially on long motorway climbs.
Also there's a regular on slip to an NSL dual where the sighting isn't good but it's a long slip so all good providing you get on with it then no issue. In situations where our C3 1.2 6 speed auto would just get up and go this other thing would spend so long trying to decide which gear to be in then planning gets more tricky and just then find didn't have the wherewithall.That's in something 200kg lighter than the C5X!
Previously I'd rather allowed myself to ignore review comments about the 130's performance such as Andrew English's "hairy overtaking manoeuvres."
Still dunno, dealer still not doing drives. Almost as if not bothered.
Also it will depend on a test drive but as per an early post think I've decided the 130 C5X will be a bit underpowered so may go for the 180 4 pot. OK I get it's not for racing about and more for comfortable wafting. But I've been driving another Citroen with the same 3pot 130 engine and 8 speed auto combination as in the C5X. Can see that there are situations where with a full load onboard the engine is having to really work hard especially on long motorway climbs.
Also there's a regular on slip to an NSL dual where the sighting isn't good but it's a long slip so all good providing you get on with it then no issue. In situations where our C3 1.2 6 speed auto would just get up and go this other thing would spend so long trying to decide which gear to be in then planning gets more tricky and just then find didn't have the wherewithall.That's in something 200kg lighter than the C5X!
Previously I'd rather allowed myself to ignore review comments about the 130's performance such as Andrew English's "hairy overtaking manoeuvres."
Still dunno, dealer still not doing drives. Almost as if not bothered.
Edited by FiF on Wednesday 17th August 21:36
I had a look at one today.
Things I liked:
No demonstrator available so no test drives yet - dealer suggested calling back in a couple of weeks so I will do that.
Overall it's really nice and I will see if I can get a test drive in the next month or so but I will probably end up waiting for a bit. I think that the Peugeot 408 is out in January and it would be good to compare the two.
Things I liked:
- I love the exterior. Really stylish from all angles. Silhouette and proportions are lovely IMHO, I found myself turning around to look at it again.
- The blue colour ("Magnetic Blue" I think) looks great, and comes at no extra charge.
- Boot is massive, more than enough for me.
- Loads of interior space. Rear legroom is the best I've seen in anything outside of LWB luxury saloons.
- Interior switchgear feels really nice.
- Interior quality was not quite what I was hoping for. It all looks nice but I was expecting better quality materials inside. Some of them just felt a bit ordinary. Maybe my expectations were too high; at the end of the day this is a £25k - £30k car, not a Bentley.
- When adjusted for my driving position, I found some of the central switchgear a bit hard to reach. Not a deal breaker, but just not as easy as I would like.
- There were some build quality problems on the showroom car. One rubber exterior window seal behind a rear door was coming off, and the rear seat latching mechanism somehow wasn't right so folding the rear seats back up required an almighty slam. I know that no car is perfect but it put me off a bit TBH.
No demonstrator available so no test drives yet - dealer suggested calling back in a couple of weeks so I will do that.
Overall it's really nice and I will see if I can get a test drive in the next month or so but I will probably end up waiting for a bit. I think that the Peugeot 408 is out in January and it would be good to compare the two.
So my Dad's car has been built and it's on it's way from China! 
Early October is when it's expected to arrive in the UK, i don't know where they come in? Portbury Docks in Bristol? Tried to do a bit of digging but not found out much yet, the dealer has no information.
Finally got down to the dealer to have a look at the demonstrator, apart from the colour i was very impressed, really liked the front profile and the little design details especially the way the Citroen logo wraps around the front. Didn't look as big as i thought it would, it was parked next to a C5 Aircross and that looked huge in comparison.
I notice on the front page of the Citroen website they are advertising an event to celebrate 'World EV day' between the 9-12 September - https://www.citroen.co.uk/dealer-ev-event.html
I wonder if the dealers will use this to finally let customers have a test drive.
Early October is when it's expected to arrive in the UK, i don't know where they come in? Portbury Docks in Bristol? Tried to do a bit of digging but not found out much yet, the dealer has no information.
Finally got down to the dealer to have a look at the demonstrator, apart from the colour i was very impressed, really liked the front profile and the little design details especially the way the Citroen logo wraps around the front. Didn't look as big as i thought it would, it was parked next to a C5 Aircross and that looked huge in comparison.
I notice on the front page of the Citroen website they are advertising an event to celebrate 'World EV day' between the 9-12 September - https://www.citroen.co.uk/dealer-ev-event.html
I wonder if the dealers will use this to finally let customers have a test drive.
Looking at the configurator tonight, it seems that the more powerful 1.6 petrol engine (with 180BHP) has been dropped. You can now have only the 1.2 130BHP 3-cylinder petrol, or the plug-in hybrid.
That's a bit of a surprise. The 180BHP wasn't available for long, and the consensus seemed to be that it was the best choice. I wonder why they dropped it so quickly.
All the Citroen approved used cars (mostly ex demos) are 1.2 engine.
That's a bit of a surprise. The 180BHP wasn't available for long, and the consensus seemed to be that it was the best choice. I wonder why they dropped it so quickly.
All the Citroen approved used cars (mostly ex demos) are 1.2 engine.
408 doesn't get particularly good write ups, Andrew English summed up in comparison with the C5X which is a slightly bigger car, which costs less, and the 408 doesn't give the same ride comfort. As before, and as Peugeot admit, the i-cockpit is Marmite country. Personally, same as Marmite, really yuck, but others think it's great so fair enough.
Not sure about the C5X dropping the 1600 petrol option. I wonder if that's to try and encourage more up into the plug in.
Be interesting to see the VX interpretation when they relaunch the Insignia. Certainly Opel/ Vauxhall seem to be recognising the hate for everything on touch screens or voice control and providing proper switch gear for those things you really are going to need on the move.
Not sure about the C5X dropping the 1600 petrol option. I wonder if that's to try and encourage more up into the plug in.
Be interesting to see the VX interpretation when they relaunch the Insignia. Certainly Opel/ Vauxhall seem to be recognising the hate for everything on touch screens or voice control and providing proper switch gear for those things you really are going to need on the move.
The 408 looks amazing but I would still prefer the C5X. The back of the 408 looks pretty cramped compared with the C5X. And I prefer the look of the C5X, I feel it's more elegant.
I personally like the 408 cockpit but I agree that many will be put off. It does look a bit like a video game.
I think that the 408 will sell very well, especially in the UK, because it looks great, it's practical enough for most, and it has BMW X4 vibes at a lower price. I can see it taking sales from the Toyota C-HR.
I am also intrigued to see what Vauxhall do with the C5X/408 platform. They seem to have got their mojo back, the new Astra actually looks really nice.
I personally like the 408 cockpit but I agree that many will be put off. It does look a bit like a video game.
I think that the 408 will sell very well, especially in the UK, because it looks great, it's practical enough for most, and it has BMW X4 vibes at a lower price. I can see it taking sales from the Toyota C-HR.
I am also intrigued to see what Vauxhall do with the C5X/408 platform. They seem to have got their mojo back, the new Astra actually looks really nice.
Regarding engine options. Just had a scroll through the latest price list. Right across the range, apart from the battery electric only models, the 180 ps 1600 engine is now only offered as PHEV. So it's either the 130PS 1.2 3 pot, or lower power versions for the smaller and manual models. Even the C4 which for a very short time on the configurator had a 150PS ICE only offering has lost that.
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