Peugeot 407 Coupe

[alloypearltam]

What are people's opinion of the forthcoming 407 Coupe. I quite like the idea of the 2.7 Diesel (Same Engine as found in 2.7 Jaguars), just a pity they are not doing a manual version of the car.

[Rs Rosco]

Will be intresting to see, I work at a peugeot dealer and Im looking forward to a drive in one,

407s are ok to drive, but no road burners!

Lets hope there not using the shitty siemens injection system on the 2.7 V6 Diesel

cheers

Ross

[alloypearltam]

Ross, what is the petrol 3.0 car like in the`407?

[Rs Rosco]

Hi Tam,

As with any V6 they are nice and smooth, not extrodinarily fast, as you stated, its a shame you cant get a manual one.

Dont see many of em, PDId one, only ever seen 2 others.

Sound nice when pushed though

Much better opting for a later VVT 406 V6 with a manual box IMO.

Changed a steering rack on a 407 V6, Not a nice Job

cheers

Ross

[Thom]

Hi Ross,

Rs Rosco said:

Changed a steering rack on a 407 V6, Not a nice Job

How long did it take you ?

>> Edited by Thom on Friday 30th December 21:46

[Rs Rosco]

Around 2 hours, Including resetting the tracking,

Biggest problem was, Someone had incorrectley diagnosed it, it wasnt the pas rack at fault anyway!!!

Cheers and happy new year

Ross

[Rs Rosco]

Subframe is in two parts, but made of alloy so very light, the track rod end nuts didnt want to loosen, (on an 05 plate), It was the first one anyone had done at my work, so was a bit daunting, but as with anything else you live and learn eh.....

Ross

[Thom]

Did the heatshield give any issue during removal or did it come off easily along with the steering rack ?
On a RHD car I suppose you pulled it from left to right ?

PS : sat in a 207 yesterday, what an ugly car !

>> Edited by Thom on Thursday 5th January 18:52

[Rs Rosco]

Hi there, didnt have any issues with the heatsheild, came out the way easily, yep, rack was pulled left to right,

Not even seen a 207 yet

do you work for peugeot too then mate?

ross

[Rs Rosco]

Oh dear me, get a few complaints then

I dont find them difficult to work on, altho reliability of some parts could be improved, nothings getting easier on modern cars, Ive worked for peugeot now for 23 years, (became master tech in 2000), and at one point they seemed to be putting one step forward and taking three back (killing the 306 and launching the 307)(Multiplexing, thinking too far ahead perhaps?)

cheers

Ross

[Thom]

I see what you mean, but since they're starving suppliers by demanding increasingly lower prices, customers end up paying for the unreliable parts (just like with many other car manufacturers anyway) and it seems things will hardly ever turn the other way round, sadly.

[Rs Rosco]

Aye, works both ways really doesnt it, shame though!

Got a 607 in at the moment, which thinks its funny to repeatley set fire to the n/s/f seat joy!

Ross

[Mr Whippy]

Rs Rosco said:

Oh dear me, get a few complaints then I dont find them difficult to work on, altho reliability of some parts could be improved, nothings getting easier on modern cars, Ive worked for peugeot now for 23 years, (became master tech in 2000), and at one point they seemed to be putting one step forward and taking three back (killing the 306 and launching the 307)(Multiplexing, thinking too far ahead perhaps?)

Funny as I see some odd things going on too with the Pugs.

I had a 405 as did my brother for several years. I moved to the 306 recently and worried that serviceability would be reduced.

Was pleasantly surprised by the experience, so much so my brother (who likes DIY everything) bought a 306 too.

The cars are a joy to work on, so much more so than the 405 which itself wasn't bad at all.

There are the odd detail niggle, but once you know about them, you work around them.

My girlfriend had a 206 for a time, which in comparison just seemed so different. I had no idea where to start really.

If the newer ones are even worse I worry. The benefit of old Pugs was that you could work on them, and fix them properly and right DIY, as well as cheaply.

If the new ones are getting to be too complex for no real reason, then their later life usage may suffer. I can see alot of new bog standard cars being scrapped at 6 years old because they are not worth repairing! Not good for long term sales.

I think the 306 will be the last Peugeot I own going on the newer models under the bonnet!

Dave

[Rs Rosco]

Aye, newer ones are getting DIY unfreindley, 306s are nice to work on, some tasks on GTi - 6s and S16s, (Radiators, head gaskets e.t.c.) are a bit of a pain,

206s especially earlier ones, are just as easy to work on, just not screwed together very well

cheers

Ross

[Rs Rosco]

We have our first, 2.7 V6 twin turbo automatic...

smooth to drive, quiet, well equipped and fairly fast......

handling is a bit boat like compared to the saloon

[Thom]

Did you get one with the "active" suspension ?

[Rs Rosco]

Hi Thom, no this is without the active suspension, should get a go in one soon though as I have courses coming up relating to the car yay!

Cheers

Ross

[combemarshal]

Are they making one with active suspension?
I take it it will be electrical rather than like on the Activa?

[Thom]

Electrical, yes ; the hydraulic suspension à la Activa remains a Citroën trademark.

That said the C6 and the 407 share very similar underpants, and apart from tubes, spheres, brains and a lot of hassle (!) it would not take much to fit hydraulic suspension on a 407.

[combemarshal]

The 406 Coupe should have had Activa Suspension.