Harvey-Bailey Shad 2 - Should I?

Harvey-Bailey Shad 2 - Should I?

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Captain Chaos

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393 posts

276 months

Monday 20th November 2017
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Does anyone have experience of fitting a H-B engineering springs dampers and rollbars conversion to a Shad 2?

Having recently taken the plunge with a 1978 Shadow 2 that needs a "little work" shall we say.....all the dampers are shot and so I am in the happy position of needing to replace them.

The very reputable outfit that is working on her recommends Bilstein dampers....but I wanted to go the full Harvey-Bailey route with springs and rollbars too. They tell me however that for some people, the H-B conversion takes some of the charm out of the drive and therefore I may wish to try just new dampers first...then perhaps the rollbars and take it one step at a time.

Everything I read about the HB conversion is positive but I am inclined to listen to guys who work on Shads day in and day out...they can do whatever I want but I tend to trust the experience of a marque expert.

So...has anyone got views on what I should do? I would be most grateful...

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trigbush

250 posts

126 months

Monday 20th November 2017
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A mate of mine has a T2 with the HB and says it is well worth it

Xtriple129

1,150 posts

157 months

Monday 20th November 2017
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I have driven a standard Shadow 11 and a HB equipped one. The standard car is, to me at least, far too soft and rolls way too much. The HB equipped version was a delight and was still supremely comfortable just not so 'loose' or imprecise.

But then I drive a Turbo 'R' so what do I know smile

ruhall

506 posts

146 months

Monday 20th November 2017
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I have it fitted to a '78 Shadow 11. Car has been in the family for 30+ years, which is when I first drove it and I've been driving it ever since. At that time it was standard, and low mileage (15,000) so dampers etc were in good condition. However, despite being a 11, it still felt very soft and rolled more than I was expecting.

The full HB kit was fitted within approx 3 months. It made a marked difference but, especially if not driven for a while, it still obviously takes adjusting to if you've been driving a modern 'sports' vehicle. I also have a later steering wheel, fitted at the same time, which, IIRC, is slightly smaller diameter than standard.

I don't think it makes the ride too firm, in fact I tend to run tyre pressures a few psi above standard and that feels, to me, to have more of an impact on ride firmness, although that's probably just because I simply can't remember what is was like originally.

I'm not in a position to check at the moment, but possibly the HB dampers are Bilstein?

I didn't see this thread earlier when I replied to another thread and I suggested HB on that one.

I know RR introduced their own kit at some stage, which I suspect was very similar.

I think it depends on what you want. I suppose you must lose a bit of 'waftiness' but although I can't recall what it was like originally, I do know that it made a huge difference and I much preferred it.

Just for info it cost approx £3500 fitted back then - still have the invoice somewhere - so you'd be pretty miffed if it didn't work.

I've never had a passenger who has questioned the ride or made any comment about 'lack of waftiness', if that helps.

Captain Chaos

Original Poster:

393 posts

276 months

Tuesday 21st November 2017
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Thanks to all who posted replies, most useful.

If anyone else has thoughts that would be great.....I've almost made up my mind....almost confused

ruhall

506 posts

146 months

Tuesday 21st November 2017
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A few brochure shots, it it helps. A long time since I've looked at the brochure.

ruhall

506 posts

146 months

Tuesday 21st November 2017
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This one's interesting as it compares the HBE kit with the RR one; I'd forgotten about that and have, for a long time, assumed that the RR kit was probably a re-badged HBE kit. This would suggest that's not the case.


ruhall

506 posts

146 months

Tuesday 21st November 2017
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This comparison is an early Mulsanne Turbo, before the R.

ruhall

506 posts

146 months

Tuesday 21st November 2017
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Enjoy mulling it over.

jeyjey

220 posts

97 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2017
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I had the Harvey Bailey kit on my '79 T2. Still not quite the ride of my '07 Arnage, but a huge improvement over the standard SY.

Cheers,
Jeff.