Leather conditioner for a 2013 cooper s?

Leather conditioner for a 2013 cooper s?

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nish81

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151 posts

87 months

Sunday 14th May 2017
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jimmy156

3,687 posts

187 months

Sunday 14th May 2017
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I use the gliptone liquid leather cleaner, and liquid leather conditioner

http://www.cleanyourcar.co.uk/index.php?_a=viewBra...

No need for any air freshener as the conditioner smells great!

Fermit The Krog and Sexy Sarah

12,889 posts

100 months

Sunday 14th May 2017
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You cannot condition pigment coated leather (apposed to dyed leather) it is none porous.

In a professional capacity (and I do use them personally) I always recommend LTT products. Looking after pigment coated leather is two stage, clean, and protect. Clean little and often, and apply protectent a few times per year. Dirt is what wrecks leather, being abrasive. Shiny leather has a patina, so is essentially dirty. NEVER use baby wipes, contrary to belief they are too strong for leather.
Never use anything with wax, oil or silicone in it, it only serves to attract more muck. clean little and often, 5 minutes when you wash your car.

Speaking as the owner of a leather restoration company formed 5 years ago.

Fermit The Krog and Sexy Sarah

12,889 posts

100 months

Sunday 14th May 2017
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PS, Auto Glym leather products are garbage for what it's worth.....


creepy coupe

302 posts

133 months

Monday 15th May 2017
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jimmy156 said:
I use the gliptone liquid leather cleaner, and liquid leather conditioner

http://www.cleanyourcar.co.uk/index.php?_a=viewBra...

No need for any air freshener as the conditioner smells great!
I use this. It's great stuff. And smells amazing.

roygarth

2,673 posts

248 months

Wednesday 17th May 2017
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Fermit The Krog and Sexy Sarah said:
You cannot condition pigment coated leather (apposed to dyed leather) it is none porous.

In a professional capacity (and I do use them personally) I always recommend LTT products. Looking after pigment coated leather is two stage, clean, and protect. Clean little and often, and apply protectent a few times per year. Dirt is what wrecks leather, being abrasive. Shiny leather has a patina, so is essentially dirty. NEVER use baby wipes, contrary to belief they are too strong for leather.
Never use anything with wax, oil or silicone in it, it only serves to attract more muck. clean little and often, 5 minutes when you wash your car.

Speaking as the owner of a leather restoration company formed 5 years ago.
Which cars have PCL?

Fermit The Krog and Sexy Sarah

12,889 posts

100 months

Wednesday 17th May 2017
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roygarth said:
Fermit The Krog and Sexy Sarah said:
You cannot condition pigment coated leather (apposed to dyed leather) it is none porous.

In a professional capacity (and I do use them personally) I always recommend LTT products. Looking after pigment coated leather is two stage, clean, and protect. Clean little and often, and apply protectent a few times per year. Dirt is what wrecks leather, being abrasive. Shiny leather has a patina, so is essentially dirty. NEVER use baby wipes, contrary to belief they are too strong for leather.
Never use anything with wax, oil or silicone in it, it only serves to attract more muck. clean little and often, 5 minutes when you wash your car.

Speaking as the owner of a leather restoration company formed 5 years ago.
Which cars have PCL?
Pretty much them all. Rolls Royce and Morgan are the only manufacturers to offer aniline (dyed) leather IIRC.

roygarth

2,673 posts

248 months

Thursday 18th May 2017
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Fermit The Krog and Sexy Sarah said:
roygarth said:
Fermit The Krog and Sexy Sarah said:
You cannot condition pigment coated leather (apposed to dyed leather) it is none porous.

In a professional capacity (and I do use them personally) I always recommend LTT products. Looking after pigment coated leather is two stage, clean, and protect. Clean little and often, and apply protectent a few times per year. Dirt is what wrecks leather, being abrasive. Shiny leather has a patina, so is essentially dirty. NEVER use baby wipes, contrary to belief they are too strong for leather.
Never use anything with wax, oil or silicone in it, it only serves to attract more muck. clean little and often, 5 minutes when you wash your car.

Speaking as the owner of a leather restoration company formed 5 years ago.
Which cars have PCL?
Pretty much them all. Rolls Royce and Morgan are the only manufacturers to offer aniline (dyed) leather IIRC.
Thanks. And this has been the case for many years?

I've been told its a total waste of time putting leather feed on modern leather in cars as its more of a reconstituted product than straightforward leather.

Fermit The Krog and Sexy Sarah

12,889 posts

100 months

Thursday 18th May 2017
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roygarth said:
Fermit The Krog and Sexy Sarah said:
roygarth said:
Fermit The Krog and Sexy Sarah said:
You cannot condition pigment coated leather (apposed to dyed leather) it is none porous.

In a professional capacity (and I do use them personally) I always recommend LTT products. Looking after pigment coated leather is two stage, clean, and protect. Clean little and often, and apply protectent a few times per year. Dirt is what wrecks leather, being abrasive. Shiny leather has a patina, so is essentially dirty. NEVER use baby wipes, contrary to belief they are too strong for leather.
Never use anything with wax, oil or silicone in it, it only serves to attract more muck. clean little and often, 5 minutes when you wash your car.

Speaking as the owner of a leather restoration company formed 5 years ago.
Which cars have PCL?
Pretty much them all. Rolls Royce and Morgan are the only manufacturers to offer aniline (dyed) leather IIRC.
Thanks. And this has been the case for many years?

I've been told its a total waste of time putting leather feed on modern leather in cars as its more of a reconstituted product than straightforward leather.
Pretty much always the case that car leather has been pigment coated. older car leather feels different, harder, which I believe is down to leather pigment being water based since 1991.

Some modern car leather uses a product called bonded leather (which is crap) basically a reconstituted leather. More often than not though usage is limited to places you don't touch, EG the sides and backs. It can be tested by the lack of a grain when pressed in.

bazza white

3,558 posts

128 months

Sunday 21st May 2017
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Mini leather is crap, it really is poor quality for a premium car.




My old (03) mx5 on the other hand looked brand new, it was immaculate unlike the chassis rails.



Fermit The Krog and Sexy Sarah

12,889 posts

100 months

Monday 22nd May 2017
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bazza white said:
Mini leather is crap, it really is poor quality for a premium car.




My old (03) mx5 on the other hand looked brand new, it was immaculate unlike the chassis rails.
Much leather in modern cars is rubbish. Many (including prestige EG Merc, BM, Jag) use a product called bonded leather on the likes of the sides and tops. Basically it's reconstituted leather, it is to leather what chicken McNuggets are to meat. It cracks up and splits in as little as 4 years. IMO it shouldn't be allowed to include the word leather.

Fermit The Krog and Sexy Sarah

12,889 posts

100 months

Saturday 27th May 2017
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nish81 said:
Fermit The Krog and Sexy Sarah said:
You cannot condition pigment coated leather (apposed to dyed leather) it is none porous.

In a professional capacity (and I do use them personally) I always recommend LTT products. Looking after pigment coated leather is two stage, clean, and protect. Clean little and often, and apply protectent a few times per year. Dirt is what wrecks leather, being abrasive. Shiny leather has a patina, so is essentially dirty. NEVER use baby wipes, contrary to belief they are too strong for leather.
Never use anything with wax, oil or silicone in it, it only serves to attract more muck. clean little and often, 5 minutes when you wash your car.

Speaking as the owner of a leather restoration company formed 5 years ago.
Thanks! What would you use to clean the leather that isn't too strong - just paper towels/microfibre cloth and water to wipe the dirt off? And is there a protectant that you recommend?


Fermit The Krog and Sexy Sarah said:
PS, Auto Glym leather products are garbage for what it's worth.....
They get great reviews so I'm curious - what's wrong with them?
Their products often contain something (guess oil or silicone of some sort) to shine up leather. Clean leather shouldn't shine. Such an ingredient shall simply sit on the surface, attracting dirt, one of the most detrimental things to leather pigment.
Their protectant as far as I can see does not protect. I've seen a drop of oil applied to 'protected' (absorbent) leather go straight though the product in to the leather. If it were doing its job it would have repelled it.

As for products; I recommend LTT in a professional capacity. Anything PH neutral, without alcohol content. White paper towels are good, as you can see when no more dirt is coming off the leather. In all seriousness (whilst not ideal) water alone is far more ideal than many so called professional products!

TR4man

5,222 posts

174 months

Saturday 27th May 2017
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I used to know a guy who used E45 cream on the seats of his old Riley. He used to say that as leather is a form of skin the using hand cream couldn't do any harm.

I don't know the reality as to whether E45 is any good or not, but his car's seats always looked lovely.

Fermit The Krog and Sexy Sarah

12,889 posts

100 months

Saturday 27th May 2017
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TR4man said:
I used to know a guy who used E45 cream on the seats of his old Riley. He used to say that as leather is a form of skin the using hand cream couldn't do any harm.

I don't know the reality as to whether E45 is any good or not, but his car's seats always looked lovely.
sorry, it's an old wives tale. The 'skin' is essentially painted, it can't absorb. Also the above advice on oils present applies.

a11y_m

1,861 posts

222 months

Saturday 27th May 2017
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LTT Lazy Leather I assume you mean?

Do you need to use much product each time? I'm debating between 150ml and 500ml bottle. Only part-leather in my MINI (side bolsters only) so I don't have a huge amount of leather to treat.

Been using Chemical Guys leather conditioner on previous cars but haven't done anything with the MINI so far.

Fermit The Krog and Sexy Sarah

12,889 posts

100 months

Sunday 28th May 2017
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a11y_m said:
LTT Lazy Leather I assume you mean?

Do you need to use much product each time? I'm debating between 150ml and 500ml bottle. Only part-leather in my MINI (side bolsters only) so I don't have a huge amount of leather to treat.

Been using Chemical Guys leather conditioner on previous cars but haven't done anything with the MINI so far.
Lazy Leather is their 'little and often' product. The best way to maintain leather, to stop dirt damaging the finish, and keep it showroom. Deep Clean is for leather which has not been cleaned for yonks! Used the latter on second hand Nattuzi sofas we'd bought, shiny as a mirror, after a few applications it completely rid their patina (IE polished dirt)

You shouldn't need to use much, but as with any site selling something they want to make it attractive to up the order....

a11y_m

1,861 posts

222 months

Monday 29th May 2017
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Fermit The Krog and Sexy Sarah said:
Lazy Leather is their 'little and often' product. The best way to maintain leather, to stop dirt damaging the finish, and keep it showroom. Deep Clean is for leather which has not been cleaned for yonks! Used the latter on second hand Nattuzi sofas we'd bought, shiny as a mirror, after a few applications it completely rid their patina (IE polished dirt)

You shouldn't need to use much, but as with any site selling something they want to make it attractive to up the order....
Thanks. It's on the wish list for next time I'm stocking up smile