Looking at Buying.

Looking at Buying.

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SpamCan

Original Poster:

5,026 posts

218 months

Tuesday 13th February 2018
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Hello all,
Hopefully my current car (2006 Mustang GT) will soon be sold which is going to leave me looking for a replacement vehicle. My budget is up to £3000 and the MINI seems to fit into that category amongst others like the Alfa 147 (posted a thread in the Alfa forum a while back).

I’d be looking at a 2006 car as the stereo can be replaced (one of the key factors for a replacement is that I can use a USB stick with MP3’s on it which means replacing the stereo on most pre-2010 cars on the market (I’m unwilling to compromise with cradles for phones and mp3 players), sounds daft I know but I have become acustomed to the ease of the USB stick and its something I can sort in 30 minutes and with £50 with a replacement stereo. I know the slightly later cars had an AUX in but no USB.

Anyway, £3000 seems to get me a reasonable condition 1.4 or 1.6 MINI, I have heard that the timing chain tensioners are an issue on the earlier cars (Cooper and Cooper S) is there anything else I need to be mindful of and look out for.

It’s a huge step down in performance from the Mustang but I have a far more fun toy tucked away in an aircraft hangar so I am looking for something cheap and reliable to run around in, but can still have a bit of fun with on a twisty road (the PH in me isn't willing to roll over and die yet).

wlondoner

78 posts

95 months

Tuesday 13th February 2018
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I've had two R56s and 5 MINIs in total

I feel the R series arnt as well made as the newer F series (late 2013+)The R56 isn't a true BMW. But still had fun in them.

Buyers guide here
https://www.pistonheads.com/news/ph-buying-guides/...


The Cardinal

1,265 posts

252 months

Tuesday 13th February 2018
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I have a 2012 R56 Cooper, which is a late facelifted "LCI" model with 122hp. Mine's got small wheels and some choice options short of the Chili pack.

I've been really pleased with it and I'm going to struggle to find such a good value replacement. It's now 6 years old, with approaching 20k on the clock and has just had an interim service with brake fluid at the local main dealer for £171.72. The tyres, brakes and general condition are all well above what I'd expect - and nothing has gone wrong since I bought it in 2016.

It's no ball of fire, but I think the performance figures are conservative and I've had a genuine 54mpg on long runs. It's entertaining enough for current needs and I imagine the S must be a hoot.

Apart from the fact it was smoked in by its first owner, it's been a great buy to run alongside our family van - although that might be because it's a late model with low miles. I think mine's reached a sweet spot where it's still reliable, desirable enough and has low depreciation and running costs, but it won't upset me if it picks up a few marks.

I do think it's worth mentioning something about who buys these cars and how they're used. I'm sure there's a mix of buyers, but I do think it's a pretty prevalent second car for well-to-do types judging by the specs and histories that you see in classifieds.

LFB531

1,233 posts

158 months

Wednesday 14th February 2018
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Collecting this today, my first venture into Mini territory. Bought to do urban duties and prevent Mrs LFB getting any more car park/hedge dents on the Range Rover smile



A '55 plate standard Cooper, clean as a whistle with 78k and a decent history. Felt a lot more solid than French equivalents so happy to give it a go. Convinced myself an S wasn't required for this job, I might regret that.

This was just sub £2k, the nicest I could find within a reasonable distance and in budget. Tons for sale, lots of rubbish out there and plenty with epic miles.

Edited by LFB531 on Wednesday 14th February 11:01

SpamCan

Original Poster:

5,026 posts

218 months

Wednesday 14th February 2018
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Thanks for the input so far.

Is the diesel worth looking at (trying to keep my options open)?

steve-5snwi

8,664 posts

93 months

Wednesday 14th February 2018
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SpamCan said:
Thanks for the input so far.

Is the diesel worth looking at (trying to keep my options open)?
Mini and diesel is like Fish and porridge, they just shouldn't be in the same sentence.

J8 SVG

1,468 posts

130 months

Wednesday 14th February 2018
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My Mum's on her 5th mini, one one has been a cooperD and it didn't last long...

wlondoner

78 posts

95 months

Thursday 15th February 2018
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The MINI Diesel engine is very popular, especially in the new F series.
Autoexpress gave a MINI diesel 5 out of 5

The newer ones are very impressive

Definitely worth considering a diesel R56 too

SpamCan

Original Poster:

5,026 posts

218 months

Thursday 15th February 2018
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wlondoner said:
The MINI Diesel engine is very popular, especially in the new F series.
Autoexpress gave a MINI diesel 5 out of 5

The newer ones are very impressive

Definitely worth considering a diesel R56 too
I guess I will have to have a look around, though mostly it means travelling, which is a pain becuase I won't be in a position to buy until the Mustang is sold, which means I won't have a car.

Petrols seem more numerous and there are a few locally.

daemon

35,814 posts

197 months

Thursday 15th February 2018
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SpamCan said:
wlondoner said:
The MINI Diesel engine is very popular, especially in the new F series.
Autoexpress gave a MINI diesel 5 out of 5

The newer ones are very impressive

Definitely worth considering a diesel R56 too
I guess I will have to have a look around, though mostly it means travelling, which is a pain becuase I won't be in a position to buy until the Mustang is sold, which means I won't have a car.

Petrols seem more numerous and there are a few locally.
At your budget point i'd be looking for a good petrol one. Older diesels can be problematic.

RT Phil

248 posts

216 months

Thursday 15th February 2018
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With the way the Goverment are starting to treat diesels, I wouldn't bother with one, in a few years I reckon they will be priced off the road or just too expensive to run for the extra mpg you get.

wlondoner

78 posts

95 months

Thursday 15th February 2018
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Old diesels not Euro 6 modern diesels, they are not going anywhere soon, but I guess your one of the people the media have managed to scare

RT Phil

248 posts

216 months

Friday 16th February 2018
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Couldn't care less what the press say, older diesels are not going to be that affected it's the ones with dpf, and for me the whole point of a diesel is they are cheap and better on fuel there petrol counterparts, but other than that they belong in trucks and tractors

daemon

35,814 posts

197 months

Friday 16th February 2018
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RT Phil said:
older diesels are not going to be that affected it's the ones with dpf
Surely the older non-dpf'd older diesels are the very cars they are going to "encourage" off the road?

steve-5snwi

8,664 posts

93 months

Friday 16th February 2018
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Isn't the early 1.4 diesel a Toyota lump (and rubbish) and then the 1.6 diesel is the PSA engine (even worse) Unless your going to cover 50 miles each way per day then diesel is a big No, on short trips a petrol will be just as economical - unless its a cooper s.

Gunk

3,302 posts

159 months

Friday 16th February 2018
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The R56 Cooper D has a 1.6 PSA engine. We’ve owned 2, an R56 and we now have an R55 Clubman Cooper D, road tax is £20 a year and it averages 50 mpg. With the current hysteria around diesel they’re now as cheap as the wheezy 1.6 petrol version.

I still think a Cooper D with the Chilli pack is the pick of the R56 range.

wlondoner

78 posts

95 months

Saturday 17th February 2018
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Free tax for my Cooper D 2014 F56 smile

Love Diesels

steve-5snwi

8,664 posts

93 months

Saturday 17th February 2018
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Free pops and bangs on my MCS smile

daemon

35,814 posts

197 months

Sunday 18th February 2018
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steve-5snwi said:
Free pops and bangs on my MCS smile
yes

SpamCan

Original Poster:

5,026 posts

218 months

Sunday 18th February 2018
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Thanks for the responses.

However nice the free tax is on a 2014 diesel I don't think I'll get one of those for £3k. To be honest my main concern with the diesels is DPF issues, so it will probably be a petrol MINI One or Cooper that I buy.

That said I have to get rid of my current car (Mustang) first and as I have had two potential buyers cancel on me the MINI is going to have to wait a little bit longer frown

Edited by SpamCan on Sunday 18th February 14:04