mini countryman ...good buy??

mini countryman ...good buy??

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peter2704

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222 posts

176 months

Saturday 15th May
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seen a 2013 cooper D with 78K on it at £6.5K ,3 owners and fsh apparently? or a cooper S 2012 70K 1 owner fsh £6.4K from a used dealer

stevemcs

5,754 posts

61 months

Sunday 16th May
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I’d go with the S

peter2704

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222 posts

176 months

Tuesday 25th May
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steve, if I go petrol, what year did the more reliable N18 come in,and any issues with that engine to check for when buying.Sorry for the questions mate ,but finding this mini thing quite stressful

stevemcs

5,754 posts

61 months

Tuesday 25th May
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My clubman is a November 2010 and has the N18, i think all countrymans are N18 though. On the hatch and clubman it came in with the LCi models (facelift)

Mr Peel

325 posts

90 months

Wednesday 26th May
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Yes they all have the N18 engine.

peter2704

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222 posts

176 months

Friday 28th May
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ok need some advice please,looking at a 2011 countryman cooper S with 80k tomorrow,anything that i need to check to prevent serious bills in the future
or that are particular to the S version ? should be a N18 if I am correct ,oil consumption concerns me ,how do I check that on a test drive,apart from exhaust smoke? obviously timing chain rattle,oil level and filler cap gunk,header tank for signs of oil ,clutch feel /bitting point/gbox.all the electrics work....anything else

BIRMA

3,156 posts

162 months

Saturday 29th May
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peter2704 said:
seen a 2013 cooper D with 78K on it at £6.5K ,3 owners and fsh apparently? or a cooper S 2012 70K 1 owner fsh £6.4K from a used dealer
Just for the record I have a 2014 Clubvan D. I've had it re-mapped, K&N air filter, active suspension system etc (spent a fortune) The N47 Diesel engine does have a very bad reputation. But when I was looking for a Clubvan I saw many an example with well over 150-250 K miles on them, admittedly I didn't go and see them as I was looking for less than 20K mileage.
I did plan to have the head taken off mine to check but haven't got round to having it done, but I just drive it like it likes to be driven (quickly)

mike9009

5,223 posts

211 months

Saturday 29th May
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peter2704 said:
ok need some advice please,looking at a 2011 countryman cooper S with 80k tomorrow,anything that i need to check to prevent serious bills in the future
or that are particular to the S version ? should be a N18 if I am correct ,oil consumption concerns me ,how do I check that on a test drive,apart from exhaust smoke? obviously timing chain rattle,oil level and filler cap gunk,header tank for signs of oil ,clutch feel /bitting point/gbox.all the electrics work....anything else
Make sure the engine is cold, stone cold. Check the oil level - if it is low it is likely to use excessive oil. My N14 would use about a litre every 700-800 miles and so checking frequently was essential. Not certain but a good indication of previous owners care.....

On start up check for a clattery rattle which goes after a free seconds. Signs that the chain tensioner needs some attention.

To be fair, I owned my N14 for six years, and did not have an issue. I suspect a low oil level and time chain woes are intrinsically linked - so if you keep an eye the oil level, the chain should be fine.....

stevemcs

5,754 posts

61 months

Saturday 29th May
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peter2704 said:
ok need some advice please,looking at a 2011 countryman cooper S with 80k tomorrow,anything that i need to check to prevent serious bills in the future
or that are particular to the S version ? should be a N18 if I am correct ,oil consumption concerns me ,how do I check that on a test drive,apart from exhaust smoke? obviously timing chain rattle,oil level and filler cap gunk,header tank for signs of oil ,clutch feel /bitting point/gbox.all the electrics work....anything else
Mine does not use a drop, make sure there is a good history, look for signs of water or corrosion on the gearbox (thermostat) make sure all the doors and windows lock and unlock, make sure the AC works.

peter2704

Original Poster:

222 posts

176 months

Saturday 29th May
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so the car was ok, drove fine ,although may be the clutch bit just above half travel ,but no slip.car started with no rattles that i could hear although injectors sounded noisy.some signs of oil seepage on the top rhs of the rocker cover.pipe to aie filter was out and the turbo in take was adrift ,not sure why .Some external scratches along the sides of the car and only one key.dealer wouldnt shift on price so i left him my number .the car felt tight and was 2wd ,which I liked and the wife definitely wants the sunroof on her next car now...the search continues.I did like the sat nav in the speedo centre and other info in there,can this be retro fitted,if so at what price?

peter2704

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222 posts

176 months

Sunday 30th May
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found another to hopefully view,engine bay look ok?

stevemcs

5,754 posts

61 months

Sunday 30th May
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The injectors are noisy on these and clutch bite point can be high, just have a slush fund incase it wants one. Oil feed pipes can leak.

Nav isn't worth retro fitting, sunroofs are nice to have just make sure it works.

peter2704

Original Poster:

222 posts

176 months

Sunday 30th May
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cheers Steve really appreciate your input,oil feed pipe? is this for the turbo?

peter2704

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222 posts

176 months

Wednesday 2nd June
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ok so looked at the car,it was ok had potential with a bit of tlc ,some paint lacquer lifting on the roof? and boot had water in it ffs ?? we couldnt agree on price ,also had a oil leak that dropped onto the down pipe near the flexy joint

stevemcs

5,754 posts

61 months

Wednesday 2nd June
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Oil leak on flexi could be turbo, cam cover or oil filter housing, boots don't normally fill with water and laquer peel is rare and would suggest someone going all chuck norris with a polisher or its been painted. Give it a miss.

stevemcs

5,754 posts

61 months

peter2704

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222 posts

176 months

Wednesday 2nd June
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Key marks over the paint wouldn’t budge on price and I think the chain is stretched , paperwork showed Canó max limit reset ??? .. oh and it’s black

stevemcs

5,754 posts

61 months

Wednesday 2nd June
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Only way to really check the chain is to remove it,if it doesn’t rattle then it’s not stretched.

bern

856 posts

188 months

Wednesday 2nd June
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Bought this cooper D about 3 months ago. Paid £4800, 2013, 88k miles, 1 owner, private sale. Done a full service including all discs and pads, 2 new tyres, wheel refurb, and a bloody good detail. Quite happy with it although the engine is a bit of a boat anchor in my opinion, but I am constantly swapping between this and my Legacy 3.0 boxer 6 so that's probably why?



Timing chain is the big one. This seems quite. I'll change the oil regularly and keep an ear it. BMW service intervals are ridiculous.