Just bought a Cooper 's' - modifying thoughts

Just bought a Cooper 's' - modifying thoughts

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easto

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205 posts

208 months

Tuesday 11th April 2006
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Better half has recently purchased a little cracker...After trying to get her to buy a grey one with JCW kit on, she decided as its her car and I wasnt willing to pay the extra premium she would decide what car SHE would buy and drive...boooo!

Dark blue cooper s - very very nice car, in fact luv it to bits.

I am very interested in the merits of the BBR chip to 185hp, and the fuel figures banded around are very impressive! Anyone got any experience of this. I am currently getting around 240miles a tank which i think equates to 28mpg ish.

Saying that though for 1300 quid I could take her to the next level - do you think she would notice?????

GTT also give out some good spec for seemingly cracking value

then of course JCW spec - cant find prices for this, peace of mind with warranty/TLC no doubt attracts the premium price...

thoughts - I see one person has the 185 BBR setup - any fuel changes?

maserati3200gt

1,576 posts

204 months

Wednesday 12th April 2006
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Got a Spare 210 Supercharger available if your interested ?
Had used it for a week before I got the 225 conversion by JCW Carried out.

Naughty Magpie

1,484 posts

208 months

Thursday 20th April 2006
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I'm getting a GGR (Graham Goode Racing) 210bhp upgrade soonish - I bought it via the MINI2 Charity Ball auction a couple of weeks ago for a bargain price of £475 (£1400 usually). GGR wouldn't have been my first choice for engine upgrades although they do have a heck of a lot of experience in engine tuning. All my other stuff on the S is by M7 or GTT (I just love GTT).

We'll see how it goes.

niikme

562 posts

191 months

Friday 21st April 2006
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where is GTT - they are not the GTT that used to mess with R5s surely?

E74778

9 posts

187 months

Friday 21st April 2006
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GTT are based in Blanford in Dorset and yet they used to tune R5's, thet now tune Audi TT's and Mini's.

Alan.

trackdemon

11,073 posts

231 months

Saturday 22nd April 2006
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We're running the 185 chip on ours, decent value and yes it does improve economy - particularly constant speed stuff. Not much, maybe 5% but its worth having. Engine revs keener, low speed flat spots gone, more mid range - all good. Shame you have to drive to Banbury for fitting though....

supercharged99

3 posts

186 months

Sunday 23rd April 2006
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hi there i got my cooper S done by GTT.(250 bhp ).then remapped by MTH.i get 240 miles to the tank on motorway driving (85 mph-90mph ).

i got a GTT manifold for sale £380 .retail new for £480.this adds 8-12 bhp on the S .

car is now for sale on PISTONHEADS at 235 bhp.

maserati3200gt

1,576 posts

204 months

Sunday 23rd April 2006
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supercharged99 said:
hi there i got my cooper S done by GTT.(250 bhp ).then remapped by MTH.i get 240 miles to the tank on motorway driving (85 mph-90mph ).

i got a GTT manifold for sale £380 .retail new for £480.this adds 8-12 bhp on the S .

car is now for sale on PISTONHEADS at 235 bhp.


Whats your 0-60 time now ?

supercharged99

3 posts

186 months

Monday 24th April 2006
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best time with gatso equipment was 6.4 sec.

not too bad .

bullitt rich

550 posts

186 months

Saturday 13th May 2006
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We've currently got a JCW kit (200bhp) version at work for half price! Let me know if your interested. Won't take much to up it to the 210bhp, well I'll discount it for you

rallycross

11,293 posts

207 months

Saturday 10th June 2006
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I have an S with the BBR stage 1 220 bhp conversion and suspension kit, its an amazing little car; girlfriend mainly drives it (to work/shops) and loves it, you'd never know it was modified, until you take it for a blast that is and then it really flies!

Call BBR for some costs, reputable company and really know about tuning these Mini's...

Ollie Tebbutt

160 posts

184 months

Monday 12th June 2006
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The only thing against any non-BMW kits are that they make the warranty in-valied. But hey, when the car is over 3 years old, who cares? I think that BBR offer the best kit for your money. Although JCW does keep the warranty, they are expensive.

shedtastic

41 posts

205 months

Wednesday 21st June 2006
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It's my belief that the JCW kits are more thoroughly developed and validated. People may have had no problems with other kist after 10,000 miles - but if BMW still warranty JCW cars for three years, you can bet they've really caned them on the test benches and what-not to ensure they are good for the same abuse and mileage as a BMW motor like the M3.
(so they'll go bang at 85,000 then..)

Would be interesting to hear what modified engine failures people have had - come on, who's thrown a rod?

crashbunny

7 posts

184 months

Wednesday 2nd August 2006
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Got my Cooper S done at Dastek. (Milltech exhaust, induction kit, "speical" black box, etc.) which makes excellent BHP improvement. However, Dastek have a superb rolling road (I think the most powerfull FWD type in UK???) so I could see the improvements. However, they have told me of many instances where people have spent a fortune for specific upgrade which when tested on the rolling road, falls far short of what they thought they were paying for.

My question is: With the other places talked about above, do you get a print out showing the graphs, etc. Or do you just hope &/or feel by seat of your pants................?

Mikey G

4,319 posts

210 months

Thursday 3rd August 2006
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crashbunny said:
However, Dastek have a superb rolling road (I think the most powerfull FWD type in UK???) so I could see the improvements. However, they have told me of many instances where people have spent a fortune for specific upgrade which when tested on the rolling road, falls far short of what they thought they were paying for.

My question is: With the other places talked about above, do you get a print out showing the graphs, etc. Or do you just hope &/or feel by seat of your pants................?


Dastek a superb rolling road? i would disagree having seen one and the competition first hand..

I may be a bit biased but BBR tend to have very good write ups when it comes to tuning the Cooper S. I can assure you when they say they have 220bhp out of a Mini engine this is true flywheel power not a guess from the wheels. All BBR Mini remaps have been done on an engine dyno as they believe you cant get true reliable figures from a chassis dyno.

It comes down to the reputation of the tuner, you either trust them or you dont. All tuners have told a few fibs on times when it comes to quoting power outputs.

crashbunny

7 posts

184 months

Friday 4th August 2006
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Mike. Noted. I had only ever been to one rolling road so can only go by my own impressions & what they told me whilst I was there. That said, because I've gone from one of the earlier lower 168BHP Coopers S's , to current 208BHP, the difference was like they'd put a rocket in there.

At the time, I went to about 6 sites saying what car I had, how much I had to spend, & what I wanted to achieve. Having sent contact emails to all of them, Dastek was the only company that was interested in my original budget spend of £2,000 to £5,000......

bez_uk

172 posts

182 months

Saturday 12th August 2006
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BBR phase 5... their turbo edition :P. I'll keep dreaming... www.bbrgti.com/minit.php

Edited by bez_uk on Saturday 12th August 12:38

Mikey G

4,319 posts

210 months

Saturday 12th August 2006
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bez_uk said:
BBR phase 5... their turbo edition :P. I'll keep dreaming... www.bbrgti.com/minit.php


Seen it first hand, very good conversion

jwf

841 posts

183 months

Sunday 13th August 2006
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bez_uk said:
BBR phase 5... their turbo edition :P. I'll keep dreaming... www.bbrgti.com/minit.php

Edited by bez_uk on Saturday 12th August 12:38


lol tis mental but its about to be out done by thge lohen 330 bi turbo kit