Cooper S - what a car!!

Cooper S - what a car!!

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Hollywood Wheels

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3,689 posts

230 months

Saturday 15th April 2006
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Popped over from my usual haunt of Speed Plod and The Law to post this...

My Lotus is currently in having pretty much a full respray after an unfortunate incident whilst it was at the dealers (long story, don't ask..) The insurance side is being dealt with by a company on my behalf. As a courtesy car i've been given a Cooper S, grey in colour, '53 reg with 20k on the clock. I'm going to be in this for quite some time, probably a month or more whilst the claim is sorted out...

Well, what a car!!!! Mini's never really did anything for me before this, i saw them as a 'lifestyle' brand more concerned with image. I fully admit to having had more than a hint of prejudice towards them. Not any more though! I've been looking for excuses to drive the thing just for the hell of it. The sound of that supercharger is just so addictive. The handling is superb, been doing my best to get as much lift-off oversteer as i can. It's a real point-and-shoot type of car. I love it! So much so, i've been looking on Autotrader at them. Far too much though for me to justify spending on a second car though. The old battlewagon Omega will just have to do once the Cooper is gone....

Bad points? The steering wheel is far too thick and slightly too big, it doesn't communicate enough. The 'run flat' tyres are hideous and too noisy. Oh, and every bloody kid in his Saxo/Nova/106/Punto (delete as appropriate) wants a race at every set of lights! Apart from that, i can't praise it enough...

Just thought i'd share it all with you, cheers!

HW (a definate Mini convert...)

rich-uk

1,431 posts

256 months

Saturday 15th April 2006
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I've just sold mine after 40,000 lovely miles. Best car I've had (up until it's replacement).

People that slag it off have never been in one, everyone I had in mine was impressed, even on the track with them driving much more expensive cars.

Ditch the rubbish runflats and it handles, rides and sounds much better and quieter.

maserati3200gt

1,576 posts

234 months

Monday 17th April 2006
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rich-uk said:
I've just sold mine after 40,000 lovely miles. Best car I've had (up until it's replacement).

People that slag it off have never been in one, everyone I had in mine was impressed, even on the track with them driving much more expensive cars.

Ditch the rubbish runflats and it handles, rides and sounds much better and quieter.


Very Very True - Its a great handling car and every one of my mates has a changed opinion once they have been in the car.

The RunFlats are crap - agreed.
Looking at changing mine but not sure what for.

Marki

15,763 posts

270 months

Monday 17th April 2006
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rich-uk said:


People that slag it off have never been in one




They are great i love mine it always puts a smile on my face

rich-uk

1,431 posts

256 months

Monday 17th April 2006
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maserati3200gt said:

The RunFlats are crap - agreed.
Looking at changing mine but not sure what for.


Pirelli PZero's are rather good.

Davislove

2,295 posts

246 months

Monday 17th April 2006
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I agree! I've got the Works and it just keeps getting better and better, awesome and soooo fast, I drive it all the time just for fun, price and fuel costs (~20 mpg) are my only bugbears

toydestroyer

76 posts

216 months

Tuesday 18th April 2006
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I slagged them off until my mate let me drive his, now I'm waiting to pick one up this weekend

Hollywood Wheels

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3,689 posts

230 months

Tuesday 18th April 2006
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Been driving it more over the weekend, i want one!! I have to turn the 'ASC' or whatever it is off as soon as i get in though, seems to cut power just as i'm predicting it coming in....

burns76

304 posts

218 months

Wednesday 19th April 2006
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rich-uk said:
maserati3200gt said:

The RunFlats are crap - agreed.
Looking at changing mine but not sure what for.


Pirelli PZero's are rather good.


Not sure if you're aware, but Kwik Fit are doing a 'four for the price of three' deal on Pirellis until 29th April (I think), and ATS are doing a 'buy one, get one free' on Pirellis, but not sure when the offer ends (or how their original prices compare to KF). In my area there's also a National Tyres outlet which claims to beat any genuine quote (or something like that). BTW - I'm not a tyre deals geek - I'm currently shopping for a set of non-runflat Pirellis to replace the factory-fitted runflats on the S.

Does anyone have any opinions on the Pirelli P6000? (unfortunately they don't do my size in the PZero)

rich-uk

1,431 posts

256 months

Wednesday 19th April 2006
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I'd try Goodyear Eagle F1's if you can't get the PZeros.

Phil Dicky

7,162 posts

263 months

Thursday 20th April 2006
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Yeah agree with everyone else, top car.

Cotty

39,498 posts

284 months

Saturday 22nd April 2006
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Hollywood Wheels said:
Oh, and every bloody kid in his Saxo/Nova/106/Punto (delete as appropriate) wants a race at every set of lights!


I tend to find the opposite, every MINI I meet wants to race

baSkey

14,291 posts

226 months

Saturday 22nd April 2006
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i have seen you post this before..(i think it was you ) with the exception of some c0ck with a mobile clamped to his ear in a red bespotlighted mcs on the A1 i have genuinely never noticed this... they either seem to be driven slowly by middlemanaging middle aged women or driven swiftly and pretty well.

still i dare say there are people who have never seen 406/vectra tdis being driven aggressively..!

Davislove

2,295 posts

246 months

Sunday 23rd April 2006
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Just a note for those thinking about changing to non run flats

I changed to a non run flat Michelin and it made little or no difference to ride quality or grip, I actually think the original dunlops were better suited to the chassis, don't forget the car was designed for them.

Davislove

2,295 posts

246 months

Sunday 23rd April 2006
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baSkey said:
i have seen you post this before..(i think it was you ) with the exception of some c0ck with a mobile clamped to his ear in a red bespotlighted mcs on the A1 i have genuinely never noticed this... they either seem to be driven slowly by middlemanaging middle aged women or driven swiftly and pretty well.

still i dare say there are people who have never seen 406/vectra tdis being driven aggressively..!


You're right, I've never seen a MCS being driven with sprit, very odd considering

rich-uk

1,431 posts

256 months

Sunday 23rd April 2006
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I can assure you mine was driven with spirit, always a pleasure and always put a smile on my face

Dunno about Michelin's as I never tried them but PZeros and Yako Advan Parada's made it into a completely different car after the run-flats.

niikme

562 posts

221 months

Monday 24th April 2006
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Having read this post, I took the plunge on the weekend and test drove a Works on A road twistys with the wife to be. Salesman handed us the keys and said see ya later! 40 mins later.......... I want one. Like now! It didn't have the punch of the Cupra R but awesomely fast and really planted on the road - GREAT handling. Loved it.

I am bothered however by a number of mates referring to the Mini (all models) as a birds car. What do you make of this ?

Regardless, the search begins..........................................

Marki

15,763 posts

270 months

Monday 24th April 2006
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niikme said:


I am bothered however by a number of mates referring to the Mini (all models) as a birds car. What do you make of this ?

Regardless, the search begins..........................................


I did consider this but after driving one i had to have it , they are a hoot and as someone said the only people who knock them have probably never driven one

w00dy

918 posts

237 months

Monday 22nd May 2006
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I really really wanted to like the Cooper S, but was really really dissapointed instead when i drove one - at the time my car was a 306 rallye and the S didn't handle as well, the ride wasn't in the same league as the pug, it was slower, i HATED the engine noise, the ratios were again inferior to the 306, and the steering was simply ghastly. Really the only thing better was that it was newer, and i wasn't going to pay £9k on top of the 306's value for that.

My girlfriend has since bought a new cooper (and myself an elise), even she hates and dosn't trust the steering, and the ride with sports suspension and 16's on runflats is still nothing short of terrible. The interior's also rattling in 6 months - she'd just got shot of her 3 year old 206 because it was starting to rattle as well

toydestroyer

76 posts

216 months

Monday 22nd May 2006
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Don't worry about it being labbled as a "Birds car" its not girls like them and the normal conversation with a girl in a pub club goes a bit like: "what do you drive?" "mini cooper s" "oh one of the new ones, have you got a girl friend?"

Never used to happen when I said fiesta lol.