parkrun

[john2443]

anonymous said:

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90% has been stated, so far it's nowhere near that. Hopefully councils will get their fingers out this week if they know there's a deadline to meet.
The good news is that if it doesn't restart soon, we can stay up late on Friday and go clubbing without worrying about the hangover.

You'll be OK on getting best age grade until a moderately quick 70yr old woman turns up and whoops your arse

[Steve vRS]

My local parkrun has just posted on FB that the local council has granted permission for it to use the park for the run which is great.

However, in the same post it said that there may need to be some changes at the start and finish to account for social distancing. Any idea what these could be? Given my local run regularly exceeds 600 people, I would have thought anything other than a mass start would be impossible for a turn up and go event.

[john2443]

It will still be mass start and finish funnel but if the start is usually in a narrow area it can be moved to somewhere wider so people can distance which can result in an over 5k course. Same at finish.

Changes such as restricted numbers or wave starts are not being considered because it's far too difficult to manage them - they work OK at races when you can restrict numbers and have chip timing but not do-able at parkrun.

Decision is being announced tomorrow on whether or not enough landowners have said yes to restarting on 5 June. If only a small number can restart, they'll be swamped with runners so the majority need to start on the same day.

[john2443]

Next attempt to restart - 26 June.

https://blog.parkrun.com/uk/2021/05/21/parkrun-to-...

[Cybertronian]

Birmingham City Council has granted permission for parkrun's return to venues but, strangely, some notable events under the Council's jurisdiction are missing from the list.

All moving in the right direction, nonetheless.

[FunkyNige]

anonymous said:

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Parkrun are being a bit naughty with their numbers as the "No it won't start" events such as Mulbarton near Norwich (where the landowner doesn't want parkrun there again) are being counted as "Processing" apparently so maybe we're not getting the full story about the replies.

The National Trust events are in a bit of a difficult position as the properties are all ticketed entry only at the moment so it's going to be difficult for them to turn around and say "unlimited numbers can turn up for a run at 9am, then when they leave it's limited numbers" so I can see them all just giving a blanket "No" until they no longer have to put social distancing in place.

[john2443]

National trust is a unusual case - why councils aren't saying yes is a mystery where parks have open access; we've now got tents up for Brighton Festival events that will start 4 weeks before parkrun, I guess they have an incentive to allow them because they pay.

[towser44]

Seems to be a bit inconsistent. Lyme Park is National Trust and that is on the list of ones with permission to run again. Our 2 nearest aren't on the list yet and one of those I assume is Forestry Commission (Delamere).

[smn159]

Looks like one of my local park runs won't be returning, thanks to the Woodland Trust withdrawing permission for it to continue post covid.

Not entirely convinced by their reasoning on the face of it either

https://www.parkrun.org.uk/tring/news/2021/05/18/h...

[KTF]

Thats a shame as the hill there was legendary.

[smn159]

KTF said:

Thats a shame as the hill there was legendary.

Yes, it's a superb setting. A real shame.

[Gilhooligan]

smn159 said:

Looks like one of my local park runs won't be returning, thanks to the Woodland Trust withdrawing permission for it to continue post covid.

Not entirely convinced by their reasoning on the face of it either

https://www.parkrun.org.uk/tring/news/2021/05/18/h...

I sent them a snotty email but just got the same copy paste reply back as what they’ve responded on Twitter etc. Was quite cathartic calling their decision and the justification ‘spectacularly dim’ etc though .

[Hol]

smn159 said:

Looks like one of my local park runs won't be returning, thanks to the Woodland Trust withdrawing permission for it to continue post covid.

Not entirely convinced by their reasoning on the face of it either

https://www.parkrun.org.uk/tring/news/2021/05/18/h...

I think one of those close to me will go that way.

Mostly due to the tight arse gits who clog up the nearby slip road roads rather than pay for the sizable car park.

[smn159]

Gilhooligan said:

smn159 said:

Looks like one of my local park runs won't be returning, thanks to the Woodland Trust withdrawing permission for it to continue post covid.

Not entirely convinced by their reasoning on the face of it either

https://www.parkrun.org.uk/tring/news/2021/05/18/h...

I sent them a snotty email but just got the same copy paste reply back as what they’ve responded on Twitter etc. Was quite cathartic calling their decision and the justification ‘spectacularly dim’ etc though .

Yes I did the same and got a similar response.

[RizzoTheRat]

Has having a rant at someone and calling them dim ever resulted in them changing thier mind about anything ever though? I'm not convinced that parkrun post is particularly helpful to the cause and will just result in the Woodland Trust getting more pissed off with parkrun and less likely to allow runs on thier land.

Sadly we don't have the same level of roadmap here as in the UK, so no idea when parkrun will return. But as of last week groups of 30 are allowed for sports so was nice to meet up with some of our parkrun core team for a run and socially distanced breakfast.

Edited by RizzoTheRat on Wednesday 26th May 08:29

[Gilhooligan]

RizzoTheRat said:

Has having a rant at someone and calling them dim ever resulted in them changing thier mind about anything ever though? I'm not convinced that parkrun post is particularly helpful to the cause and will just result in the Woodland Trust getting more pissed off with parkrun and less likely to allow runs on thier land.

Sadly we don't have the same level of roadmap here as in the UK, so no idea when parkrun will return. But as of last week groups of 30 are allowed for sports so was nice to meet up with some of our parkrun core team for a run and socially distanced breakfast.

Edited by RizzoTheRat on Wednesday 26th May 08:29

Meh. It wasn’t a rant at an individual. I emailed the main woodland trust feedback and complaints email address. Read their reasoning for cancelling and the irony in their justification. Feels pretty dim to me.

[yellowjack]

Gilhooligan said:

RizzoTheRat said:

Has having a rant at someone and calling them dim ever resulted in them changing thier mind about anything ever though? I'm not convinced that parkrun post is particularly helpful to the cause and will just result in the Woodland Trust getting more pissed off with parkrun and less likely to allow runs on thier land.

Sadly we don't have the same level of roadmap here as in the UK, so no idea when parkrun will return. But as of last week groups of 30 are allowed for sports so was nice to meet up with some of our parkrun core team for a run and socially distanced breakfast.

Edited by RizzoTheRat on Wednesday 26th May 08:29

Meh. It wasn’t a rant at an individual. I emailed the main woodland trust feedback and complaints email address. Read their reasoning for cancelling and the irony in their justification. Feels pretty dim to me.

I don't do parkruns (although I was looking to join in before all this Covid stuff kicked off). But I am a member of The Woodland Trust. And they can say goodbye to my £54 this year (joint membership). I won't support an outfit that is so blinkered. A far greater cause of damage to sensitive habitats is ramblers and dog walkers, and increasingly the Instagram brigade. It won't be parkrunners trampling bluebells in search of that perfect selfie. But parkrunners are the easiest group to identify and effectively discourage. And if the National Trust aren't careful, they're going to hemorrhage members too, with some of their more bizarre top-down attitudes and policies.

I'm totally bewildered, when a lot of evidence points to lack of physical fitness being a big driver in hospital admissions with Covid, that a concerted effort isn't being made by central and local government to engage with private and public body landowners. Getting more access to more locations, and not just for things like parkrun, would be beneficial to all public access locations by spreading demand among more sites, lowering the impact of visitors at existing sites. It's all a bit mad really.

[oyster]

yellowjack said:

Gilhooligan said:

RizzoTheRat said:

Has having a rant at someone and calling them dim ever resulted in them changing thier mind about anything ever though? I'm not convinced that parkrun post is particularly helpful to the cause and will just result in the Woodland Trust getting more pissed off with parkrun and less likely to allow runs on thier land.

Sadly we don't have the same level of roadmap here as in the UK, so no idea when parkrun will return. But as of last week groups of 30 are allowed for sports so was nice to meet up with some of our parkrun core team for a run and socially distanced breakfast.

Edited by RizzoTheRat on Wednesday 26th May 08:29

Meh. It wasn’t a rant at an individual. I emailed the main woodland trust feedback and complaints email address. Read their reasoning for cancelling and the irony in their justification. Feels pretty dim to me.

I don't do parkruns (although I was looking to join in before all this Covid stuff kicked off). But I am a member of The Woodland Trust. And they can say goodbye to my £54 this year (joint membership). I won't support an outfit that is so blinkered. A far greater cause of damage to sensitive habitats is ramblers and dog walkers, and increasingly the Instagram brigade. It won't be parkrunners trampling bluebells in search of that perfect selfie. But parkrunners are the easiest group to identify and effectively discourage. And if the National Trust aren't careful, they're going to hemorrhage members too, with some of their more bizarre top-down attitudes and policies.

I'm totally bewildered, when a lot of evidence points to lack of physical fitness being a big driver in hospital admissions with Covid, that a concerted effort isn't being made by central and local government to engage with private and public body landowners. Getting more access to more locations, and not just for things like parkrun, would be beneficial to all public access locations by spreading demand among more sites, lowering the impact of visitors at existing sites. It's all a bit mad really.

I feel the same about the National Trust. Been a member for years, but refuse now following their stance over Covid.
Whilst many places opened up last year and this in line with scientific guidance, the National Trust made up their own rules about what was safe and what wasn't.
They deprived millions of people access to gardens for leisure/exercise, they denies children access to playgrounds and so on. They closed their cafes totally when takeaway coffee was allowed.
And then, disgustingly, made many people redundant. They didn't need to do that. They did it because they were so arrogant that they thought they knew better and could invent their own rules.


And, it seems, many local authorities are doing the same now with Parkrun.

I don't know if it's ineptness, lazyness or just one last chance in the spotlight to be the kingpin of the rules.

[smn159]

oyster said:

I feel the same about the National Trust. Been a member for years, but refuse now following their stance over Covid.
Whilst many places opened up last year and this in line with scientific guidance, the National Trust made up their own rules about what was safe and what wasn't.
They deprived millions of people access to gardens for leisure/exercise, they denies children access to playgrounds and so on. They closed their cafes totally when takeaway coffee was allowed.
And then, disgustingly, made many people redundant. They didn't need to do that. They did it because they were so arrogant that they thought they knew better and could invent their own rules.


And, it seems, many local authorities are doing the same now with Parkrun.

I don't know if it's ineptness, lazyness or just one last chance in the spotlight to be the kingpin of the rules.

The Woodland Trust reasoning for refusing Tring permission, in particular "The administrative burden for the Woodland Trust created by Tring parkrun is too great at a time when it has limited resources" smacks of 'we can't be arsed'. Particularly when parkrun have offered to help with admin as well as organise parties to assist with conservation activities.

Faced with an opportunity to engage the local population actively in conversation, they've decided to pull down the shutters and tell people to fk off instead.

[john2443]

I can't think what the 'administrative burden' could be. Surely it can only be an occasional email.