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suthol

2,155 posts

234 months

Tuesday 21st February 2012
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hornetrider said:
Could we be seeing the end of one of the greats? The Punter has been dropped and is holding a press conference regarding his future...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cricket/17094222
He announced he is available for test cricket should he be selected so I expect he has at least one more ashes tilt in mind.

Carfolio

1,124 posts

181 months

Tuesday 21st February 2012
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Victor McDade said:
Will be a shame to see him go but he's nothing more prove really (well maybe an Ashes win in England). True legend of the game.

Its actually quite refreshing to see how brutal the Aussie selectors are. In other countries legends retire on their own terms and that sometimes means they go on too long, but in Australia there is no place sentiment.
On the contrary, he's been included for far too long. He should have been dropped ages ago, and this is retiring on his terms, completely. Also, he may have been a great player, but he's certainly not a great cricketer. I make the distinction because it is supposed to be a gentleman's game, and Ponting was a complete and utter cretin. I, for one, will not miss him.

hornetrider

63,161 posts

205 months

Tuesday 21st February 2012
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suthol said:
He announced he is available for test cricket should he be selected so I expect he has at least one more ashes tilt in mind.
Actually a bit of a non event, as he didn't retire from ODIs either. Not sure what the point was.

johnfm

13,668 posts

250 months

Friday 24th February 2012
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Carfolio said:
Victor McDade said:
Will be a shame to see him go but he's nothing more prove really (well maybe an Ashes win in England). True legend of the game.

Its actually quite refreshing to see how brutal the Aussie selectors are. In other countries legends retire on their own terms and that sometimes means they go on too long, but in Australia there is no place sentiment.
On the contrary, he's been included for far too long. He should have been dropped ages ago, and this is retiring on his terms, completely. Also, he may have been a great player, but he's certainly not a great cricketer. I make the distinction because it is supposed to be a gentleman's game, and Ponting was a complete and utter cretin. I, for one, will not miss him.
I am sure Ponting is all choked up hearing you don't like him...

Oh, hang on a minute. You're a Saffer - you'll be the one choking, no?

Your analysis is cretinous.

Carfolio

1,124 posts

181 months

Saturday 25th February 2012
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johnfm said:
I am sure Ponting is all choked up hearing you don't like him...

Oh, hang on a minute. You're a Saffer - you'll be the one choking, no?

Your analysis is cretinous.
I'd rather be a choker than a cheat. I doubt that sentiment is anything a convict would understand though.

suthol

2,155 posts

234 months

Saturday 25th February 2012
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Carfolio said:
johnfm said:
I am sure Ponting is all choked up hearing you don't like him...

Oh, hang on a minute. You're a Saffer - you'll be the one choking, no?

Your analysis is cretinous.
I'd rather be a choker than a cheat. I doubt that sentiment is anything a convict would understand though.
Hansie

Carfolio

1,124 posts

181 months

Saturday 25th February 2012
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suthol said:
Hansie
Yes, and he's dead. I hate him more than face, for what it's worth.

johnfm

13,668 posts

250 months

Saturday 25th February 2012
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Carfolio said:
johnfm said:
I am sure Ponting is all choked up hearing you don't like him...

Oh, hang on a minute. You're a Saffer - you'll be the one choking, no?

Your analysis is cretinous.
I'd rather be a choker than a cheat. I doubt that sentiment is anything a convict would understand though.
Times must have changed.

Played a lot of cricket with and against lots of Aussies and Poms and one or two saffers. Never known anyone to cheat - unless include not walking.

When did Ponting cheat, by the way?

Carfolio

1,124 posts

181 months

Sunday 26th February 2012
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johnfm said:
Times must have changed.

Played a lot of cricket with and against lots of Aussies and Poms and one or two saffers. Never known anyone to cheat - unless include not walking.

When did Ponting cheat, by the way?
Even Drunken Fletcher knows:
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/cricket/ponting-a-ch...

Here claiming a very obvious bump catch:
http://cyberscrap.blogspot.com/2008/01/ponting-is-... (scroll down a bit past the rantings)

Here you'll see him arguing angrily with umpires after even the TV replay shows the decision:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57uewtm48aY

Disgraceful. Now we just wait for Haddin to go - he's worse than Ponting, and Pup. Then the Aussie team will be a team of fair players again.

Victor McDade

Original Poster:

4,395 posts

182 months

Tuesday 28th February 2012
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Anyone catch the Sri Lanka-India odi from Hobart? India chased down 321 in 36(ish) overs. 8.5+ an over for the entire chase.

Brutal batting.

DJRC

23,563 posts

236 months

Tuesday 28th February 2012
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Punter played hard, just as he had been brought up to do. The refs are there to keep the players in check, the players are there to play the game and win. Punter did no more or no less than others. If we condemn Punter for his various behavior, then we have to condemn Athers for not walking after gloving Donald and I can bring myself to do that because that then sparked one of the most memorable passages of play in the modern history of the game.

The best way of dealing with Punter's playing of the game was to best him on the field, playing as hard as he did. For this Gary Pratt will be forever a hero of English cricket!

Carfolio

1,124 posts

181 months

Wednesday 29th February 2012
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Not walking, whilst i don't condone it, is a million miles from grounding the ball and claiming the catch. Etc.

DJRC

23,563 posts

236 months

Wednesday 29th February 2012
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No it isnt. Its exactly the same.

Carlton Banks

3,640 posts

236 months

Wednesday 29th February 2012
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Victor McDade said:
Anyone catch the Sri Lanka-India odi from Hobart? India chased down 321 in 36(ish) overs. 8.5+ an over for the entire chase.

Brutal batting.
Amazing game.

johnfm

13,668 posts

250 months

Thursday 1st March 2012
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Carfolio said:
johnfm said:
Times must have changed.

Played a lot of cricket with and against lots of Aussies and Poms and one or two saffers. Never known anyone to cheat - unless include not walking.

When did Ponting cheat, by the way?
Even Drunken Fletcher knows:
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/cricket/ponting-a-ch...

Here claiming a very obvious bump catch:
http://cyberscrap.blogspot.com/2008/01/ponting-is-... (scroll down a bit past the rantings)

Here you'll see him arguing angrily with umpires after even the TV replay shows the decision:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57uewtm48aY

Disgraceful. Now we just wait for Haddin to go - he's worse than Ponting, and Pup. Then the Aussie team will be a team of fair players again.
Arguing with an umpire is cheating now?

Link 2 - no video - what is this 'obvious bump catch' you are on about?

You seem to be talking st.

Victor McDade

Original Poster:

4,395 posts

182 months

Thursday 1st March 2012
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Claiming or appealing for a bump catch is no better or worse than what every bowler has done for the last god knows how many years - and that's appeal for a lbw or catch when they know its not out.

Take the recent Pak-Eng series which was dominated by the spinners. You'd have a ball which pitches a foot outside leg stump yet the bowler still appeals like a monkey. Warney, Murali, Kumble etc all did the same. Were these chaps all cheats?

Carlton Banks

3,640 posts

236 months

Friday 2nd March 2012
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Arguing with an umpire AFTER the decision has been made shows the kind of guy Ponting really is - Umpires decision is final.

Victor McDade

Original Poster:

4,395 posts

182 months

Thursday 8th March 2012
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Rahul 'The Wall' Dravid expected to announce his retirement from all International cricket aged 39.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cricket/17298741

13,288 runs in 164 Test matches at a 50+ average. His debut test against England in 1996 (at Lords?) when he made 95 was probably the first test match I watched as a kid (was only into the PJ stuff before then).

I'd go as far and say he was a more effective test batsman than Tendulkar. Dravid made runs when it really mattered. Second only to Lara when it comes to test batsmen of this era imo.


Dav_s

1,774 posts

192 months

Friday 9th March 2012
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My favourite all time player.
Legendary batsman, and an absolute gent. Bit gutted really.

He'll be missed.

suthol

2,155 posts

234 months

Friday 9th March 2012
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Dav_s said:
My favourite all time player.
Legendary batsman, and an absolute gent. Bit gutted really.

He'll be missed.
A true gentleman
http://www.cricketcountry.com/cricket-fan/posts/Vi...