The Triathlon thread - Ironman, 70.3, Olympic, Sprint
Discussion
Ahhh s
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Just looked at a triathlon forum where someone asked what it took to go under an hour and the first response was 'a year's training'.
Think I may have set my expectation a bit too high, especially considering I still need to find a road bike to use as I've only got mountain bikes.
This could be fun...(for those watching anyway)!
t! Just looked at a triathlon forum where someone asked what it took to go under an hour and the first response was 'a year's training'.
Think I may have set my expectation a bit too high, especially considering I still need to find a road bike to use as I've only got mountain bikes.
This could be fun...(for those watching anyway)!
ali4390 said:
Ahhh st!
Just looked at a triathlon forum where someone asked what it took to go under an hour and the first response was 'a year's training'.
Think I may have set my expectation a bit too high, especially considering I still need to find a road bike to use as I've only got mountain bikes.
This could be fun...(for those watching anyway)!
As an overweight amputee(right leg below knee) I started training in Jan, first event in May second in Jun and my third on Sunday. Its totally changed my life and although I'm always well down the field the sense of achievement is immenset! Just looked at a triathlon forum where someone asked what it took to go under an hour and the first response was 'a year's training'.
Think I may have set my expectation a bit too high, especially considering I still need to find a road bike to use as I've only got mountain bikes.
This could be fun...(for those watching anyway)!
I'd say just do your first one to set a time and work from there. Setting a time and viewing the breakdowns will show you where you can improve.
A couple of bits of advice from a beginner
Practice transition
Have a couple of runs straight off the bike as your legs feel interesting for a few 100ms
Above all enjoy
Janluke said:
As an overweight amputee(right leg below knee) I started training in Jan, first event in May second in Jun and my third on Sunday. Its totally changed my life and although I'm always well down the field the sense of achievement is immense
I'd say just do your first one to set a time and work from there. Setting a time and viewing the breakdowns will show you where you can improve.
A couple of bits of advice from a beginner
Practice transition
Have a couple of runs straight off the bike as your legs feel interesting for a few 100ms
Above all enjoy
Respect to you Janluke. I'd say just do your first one to set a time and work from there. Setting a time and viewing the breakdowns will show you where you can improve.
A couple of bits of advice from a beginner
Practice transition
Have a couple of runs straight off the bike as your legs feel interesting for a few 100ms
Above all enjoy
With this many PHers getting involved in Triathlon, or being seasoned Triathletes, we should see if we can get PH tri suits in the same vein as the pedal pushers did with their cycling tops!!
I begin packing for my Ironman 70.3 in Zell am See tonight. Bike has been cleaned and oiled, just needs taking apart and strapping into the box.
I can't fooking wait to race. It's my second and last race of the year (that I've been granted permission for due to young baby), so I really want to make the most of it. Training has been sporadic, but that's helped to stave off injury and I'm still fitter than I ever have been.
The course and scenery look stunning, I'm hoping they have their organisation sorted as it's the first race there.
Will report back next week when I can move again.
I can't fooking wait to race. It's my second and last race of the year (that I've been granted permission for due to young baby), so I really want to make the most of it. Training has been sporadic, but that's helped to stave off injury and I'm still fitter than I ever have been.
The course and scenery look stunning, I'm hoping they have their organisation sorted as it's the first race there.
Will report back next week when I can move again.
Fourmotion said:
I begin packing for my Ironman 70.3 in Zell am See tonight. Bike has been cleaned and oiled, just needs taking apart and strapping into the box.
I can't fooking wait to race. It's my second and last race of the year (that I've been granted permission for due to young baby), so I really want to make the most of it. Training has been sporadic, but that's helped to stave off injury and I'm still fitter than I ever have been.
The course and scenery look stunning, I'm hoping they have their organisation sorted as it's the first race there.
Will report back next week when I can move again.
All the very best sirI can't fooking wait to race. It's my second and last race of the year (that I've been granted permission for due to young baby), so I really want to make the most of it. Training has been sporadic, but that's helped to stave off injury and I'm still fitter than I ever have been.
The course and scenery look stunning, I'm hoping they have their organisation sorted as it's the first race there.
Will report back next week when I can move again.
Fourmotion said:
The course and scenery look stunning, I'm hoping they have their organisation sorted as it's the first race there.
Will report back next week when I can move again.
I daresay you won't need it, but best of luck! Have a fab time and a good race Will report back next week when I can move again.
It'd be good to read a race report when you're back and recovered as well
ali4390 said:
nick s said:
Good luck! But i think an hour is VERY optimistic if you say you haven't really trained for it? Hardly anyone does an hour for a super sprint! That's almost elite speeds
That's what I thought, I was basing it on my sister is aiming to do 1.10, and the top lads that did it last year did it in 51 mins, so I'd be a happy medium. I'd be happy with 1.10 although in all honesty even that may be a struggle.Zell am See done!
Where do I start? This was only my second 70.3, having completed Challenge Henley's half last year in a time of 6.09.
The setup from the office was pretty good, registration was simple and speedy, and the race briefing comprehensive. They still had a few bits to iron out before the start, and were aware the course signage wasn't up to scratch.
Bike racking done, we had a brief look at the swim start and headed back for a good nights sleep (as if).
Morning of the race and I've everything prepared, kit already laid out, breakfast organised early, drinks in the mini bar fridge.... and that's where they stayed. After the 30 minute walk to transistion I realised I'd left them behind. Do I put the half bottle of Gatorade I'd been drinking on the bike and hoped it lasted the first 20k before the aid station.
Next thing to go wrong was tearing a 4 inch gash in my wetsuit forearm. What a numpty. Still, I was in a good mood, and end the water with the 700 (!!!) others in my wave.
The swim was straight forward, and a found a reasonable rythym. I'd neglected my swimming st the expense of my running, so I was happy with a 35 something.
T1 flowed smoothly, and I was out on the bike. Where it dawned on me that it was pissing it down. This continued in s torrential fashion for the rest off the race. I got up to speed and seemed to me making light work. There were very few hills, and the Austrian roads were reasonably smooth. It was a 2 lap route, but that allowed me to plan better. The scenery was pretty special, mountains in the background quaint typical Austrian houses dotted about the place. The support on route was good considering the rain. I slowed on the second lap to conserve energy, and was quite frankly over the bloody moon to see 2.25 on my watch coming into T2. My target was under 2.50!
T2 done and out on the run. It ran long the side of the lake and through the town 3 times. I found it a bit dull, but it gave good gauge of progress, and you got the support through town each time. I ran comfortably for the first hour, just ahead of my 2 hour target. The wheels and off a bit from their, my normal nausea hit and I ended up walking sections. I came in at 2.04, so with my bike smash fest considered I was happy.
My tired maths hadn't worked on route, and for some reason I was convinced I'd just missed out on 5.30. But I was still jumping for joy (well, jumping only in my head by that point). It was pointed out by my friends that I'd in fact done a 5.15. I couldn't believe it. For once my training and nutrition plan had worked! I beat 3 pros on the bike leg (even if they punctured I'm still taking this little victory), and beat my PB by 54 minutes. The race was amazing, and the organisition good especially being the debut race. The rain slowed the bike down, but was a welcome relief on the run!
Bring on Tenby 2013.
Where do I start? This was only my second 70.3, having completed Challenge Henley's half last year in a time of 6.09.
The setup from the office was pretty good, registration was simple and speedy, and the race briefing comprehensive. They still had a few bits to iron out before the start, and were aware the course signage wasn't up to scratch.
Bike racking done, we had a brief look at the swim start and headed back for a good nights sleep (as if).
Morning of the race and I've everything prepared, kit already laid out, breakfast organised early, drinks in the mini bar fridge.... and that's where they stayed. After the 30 minute walk to transistion I realised I'd left them behind. Do I put the half bottle of Gatorade I'd been drinking on the bike and hoped it lasted the first 20k before the aid station.
Next thing to go wrong was tearing a 4 inch gash in my wetsuit forearm. What a numpty. Still, I was in a good mood, and end the water with the 700 (!!!) others in my wave.
The swim was straight forward, and a found a reasonable rythym. I'd neglected my swimming st the expense of my running, so I was happy with a 35 something.
T1 flowed smoothly, and I was out on the bike. Where it dawned on me that it was pissing it down. This continued in s torrential fashion for the rest off the race. I got up to speed and seemed to me making light work. There were very few hills, and the Austrian roads were reasonably smooth. It was a 2 lap route, but that allowed me to plan better. The scenery was pretty special, mountains in the background quaint typical Austrian houses dotted about the place. The support on route was good considering the rain. I slowed on the second lap to conserve energy, and was quite frankly over the bloody moon to see 2.25 on my watch coming into T2. My target was under 2.50!
T2 done and out on the run. It ran long the side of the lake and through the town 3 times. I found it a bit dull, but it gave good gauge of progress, and you got the support through town each time. I ran comfortably for the first hour, just ahead of my 2 hour target. The wheels and off a bit from their, my normal nausea hit and I ended up walking sections. I came in at 2.04, so with my bike smash fest considered I was happy.
My tired maths hadn't worked on route, and for some reason I was convinced I'd just missed out on 5.30. But I was still jumping for joy (well, jumping only in my head by that point). It was pointed out by my friends that I'd in fact done a 5.15. I couldn't believe it. For once my training and nutrition plan had worked! I beat 3 pros on the bike leg (even if they punctured I'm still taking this little victory), and beat my PB by 54 minutes. The race was amazing, and the organisition good especially being the debut race. The rain slowed the bike down, but was a welcome relief on the run!
Bring on Tenby 2013.
Cotswolds Classic 1/2 Ironman Race Report
I took part in this on Sunday and it was a really enjoyable day. The lake was nice and warm and a lot clearer than others i've been swimming in. The sighting points were also good.
The bike course was smooth and scenic and also quite flat so you could get a good time. It was really well marshaled with someone on EVERY turning point which was fantastic. The aid station catered for all needs.
The run around the lake was nice, the section along the duel carriageway not so much but I guess that couldn't be helped and in a way at least it provided a mixture of terrain. Again the aid station provided a great mix of drinks/foods. Flat coke is amazing!
Overall I would say it was brilliantly organised and the marshals/crowd provided a really fun and motivating atmosphere. One of the organisers (Graeme) is one here so if you're reading this well done on a successful event. I would strongly consider doing it again.
In terms of my own performance I finished with a time of 5h50mins. Until a few months ago I had never done a triathlon so I was pretty chuffed with my time. My nutrition went really well and I finished with plenty of energy in the tank (which was important as i'm building upto a full IM in a few months), so my muscles feel good today and i'll get back to training tomorrow.
I took a good long time over my transitions (about 5-6 mins each!) and reigned myself in all through the race as I didn't want to finish exhausted.
I also learnt a valuable lesson - next time i'll make sure to put on my timing chip! I was in the first wave for the swim and just as the horn sounded i noticed i forgot to put it on. I had to run back to transition, find it at the bottom of my bag and then run back to the lake, by which point my group had disappeared. I also got quite a few sarcastic "get a move on red hat" comments from the crowd which was amusing..
I took part in this on Sunday and it was a really enjoyable day. The lake was nice and warm and a lot clearer than others i've been swimming in. The sighting points were also good.
The bike course was smooth and scenic and also quite flat so you could get a good time. It was really well marshaled with someone on EVERY turning point which was fantastic. The aid station catered for all needs.
The run around the lake was nice, the section along the duel carriageway not so much but I guess that couldn't be helped and in a way at least it provided a mixture of terrain. Again the aid station provided a great mix of drinks/foods. Flat coke is amazing!
Overall I would say it was brilliantly organised and the marshals/crowd provided a really fun and motivating atmosphere. One of the organisers (Graeme) is one here so if you're reading this well done on a successful event. I would strongly consider doing it again.
In terms of my own performance I finished with a time of 5h50mins. Until a few months ago I had never done a triathlon so I was pretty chuffed with my time. My nutrition went really well and I finished with plenty of energy in the tank (which was important as i'm building upto a full IM in a few months), so my muscles feel good today and i'll get back to training tomorrow.
I took a good long time over my transitions (about 5-6 mins each!) and reigned myself in all through the race as I didn't want to finish exhausted.
I also learnt a valuable lesson - next time i'll make sure to put on my timing chip! I was in the first wave for the swim and just as the horn sounded i noticed i forgot to put it on. I had to run back to transition, find it at the bottom of my bag and then run back to the lake, by which point my group had disappeared. I also got quite a few sarcastic "get a move on red hat" comments from the crowd which was amusing..
I've just entered my first sprint tri. The 400m is going to be interesting as I can barely string together 100m at the minute. The bike and run should be relatively OK.
I'm hoping for some serious swim progress over the next 11 days. It's the breathing btw, I feel like I'm being asphyxiated after 50m. Any help/advice greatfully accepted...
I'm hoping for some serious swim progress over the next 11 days. It's the breathing btw, I feel like I'm being asphyxiated after 50m. Any help/advice greatfully accepted...
priley said:
I've just entered my first sprint tri. The 400m is going to be interesting as I can barely string together 100m at the minute. The bike and run should be relatively OK.
I'm hoping for some serious swim progress over the next 11 days. It's the breathing btw, I feel like I'm being asphyxiated after 50m. Any help/advice greatfully accepted...
This site is brilliant for swimming advice: http://www.swimsmooth.com/I'm hoping for some serious swim progress over the next 11 days. It's the breathing btw, I feel like I'm being asphyxiated after 50m. Any help/advice greatfully accepted...
The most common reason for feeling 'asphyxiated' when swimming is not exhaling when your head is in the water. After you grab a breath and your head goes under the water you should start a constant and progressive exhale ("haaaaaaa" noise) all the way until you grab your next breath and repeat. A lot of inexperienced swimmers hold their breath under the water (and don't even realise they're doing it) or exhale in a big burst and then hold their breath for a bit before going back up for air. Over the course of a few lengths that's what knackers them..
Try and work on breathing out gradually through your nose underwater rather than through your mouth. Even standing at the end of the pool with your face in the water to practice is a start. It will avoid you having to open your mouth underwater and swallowing some.
Also, and I know it might seem difficult, try and relax as much as you can in the water. Strong swimming is all about relaxation and flow.
Also, and I know it might seem difficult, try and relax as much as you can in the water. Strong swimming is all about relaxation and flow.
Congrats on completion of the half iron distances guys! I am looking for a middle distance to enter at the beginning of next season.
How many hours a week training did you do to prepare? I currently do a lot of sprints and am doing between 5 hours solid cardiovascular training a week. That's hard training though and not including any rests etc, or like when people say they did an hour at the gym, but only 20 mins of actual work!!
Wondering if i need to increase that?
How many hours a week training did you do to prepare? I currently do a lot of sprints and am doing between 5 hours solid cardiovascular training a week. That's hard training though and not including any rests etc, or like when people say they did an hour at the gym, but only 20 mins of actual work!!
Wondering if i need to increase that?
My (running) coach has two questions he starts with when discussing training:
For example, if you can currently complete sprint distance and just want to complete a middle distance tri you might not need to change your training much at all. If you want to compete you need to analyse what speeds you want to be doing for each leg, look at what you can currently do and plan the best way for you (with life commitments etc) to bridge the gap.
- Where are you now?
- Where do you want to get to?
For example, if you can currently complete sprint distance and just want to complete a middle distance tri you might not need to change your training much at all. If you want to compete you need to analyse what speeds you want to be doing for each leg, look at what you can currently do and plan the best way for you (with life commitments etc) to bridge the gap.
Thanks for the advice guys. I think part of the breathing issue comes from it feeling like I'm swimming too fast when breathing every two, though bilateral feels too long. If I try to swim slower when breathing every two, in order to gain just a little extra time to take a relaxed breath in, I just seem to sink.
I am having lessons btw and we've recently been reducing recovery time between 50s.
I am having lessons btw and we've recently been reducing recovery time between 50s.
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