The Triathlon thread - Ironman, 70.3, Olympic, Sprint
Discussion
Just back from the 1st Long Course Weekend in Mallorca. It followed the same format as the LCW in Tenby
The event, based in Alcudia is in its infancy compared to Tenby, but was massively enjoyed. The bike course in particular was flat and fast. I'll try to do a bit of a write up later
The event, based in Alcudia is in its infancy compared to Tenby, but was massively enjoyed. The bike course in particular was flat and fast. I'll try to do a bit of a write up later
Dimski said:
Just back from the 1st Long Course Weekend in Mallorca. It followed the same format as the LCW in Tenby
The event, based in Alcudia is in its infancy compared to Tenby, but was massively enjoyed. The bike course in particular was flat and fast. I'll try to do a bit of a write up later
The Alcudia/Puerto Pollensa area is one of my favourite bases for training . . . it's got everything.The event, based in Alcudia is in its infancy compared to Tenby, but was massively enjoyed. The bike course in particular was flat and fast. I'll try to do a bit of a write up later
It'd be great to hear about what you got up to and what routes you did . . . I'm feeling the need for a bit of winter training in the sun already!!
Long Course Weekend Mallorca, here we are then!
The inaugural Long Course Weekend Mallorca followed the same format as the LCW in Tenby with Iron Distance events (and some shorter options) spread over 3 days; the swims on Friday, the Bike on Saturday and Run on Sunday. I've taken part in some parts of the LCW in Tenby since 2013, but had not actually done the full Long Course, so figured this was my chance to have a go and get the full medal collection. Also, looking at the route profiles on the webpage, the bike route looked flat, so it was also my first opportunity to have a go at a flat bike 112.
Given it was their first year the event is in its early days; they had approximately 170 registered to do the full Long course, with a total of about 1,000 people taking part when you included individual event entrants. There were a lot of Welsh there, plenty of IM Wales and LCW Tenby entrants.
I chose to use a wetsuit for the swim, I don't think I saw anyone without. The waters were crystal clear and warm (18-19 degrees), rather different to sea swimming in Pembrokeshire! Quick warm up 10 mins before, my first time in the Med for over 10 years, wonder if it was enough to feel accustomed to the sea, realise I'd forgotten body glide/lube... Oh well. Can't do anything about it now!
Start horn, into the water, went off a little too fast then eased off but couldn't find any quick feet to follow, they didn't seem to be sighting well (or quite likely I was the problem) and seemed to me to be zig-zagging. Out, round for the second lap, resist the temptation to check the watch for a midway time check, and back in. Quietly swore at someone who appeared to be pushing left, looked up, sighted the line of yellow bouys, cracked on... and realised I was following some mooring/reef bouys. Dammit! So it was me. Sighted the turn bouy and carried on solo now about 50 yards behind the group I was with. Still, started to feel good, so pushed the last half lap hoping for a flat water PB. Stung twice by those little stingy jellyfish, damn things may be little but their sting is worse that the Kei car sized Barrel jellyfish we get in Tenby! Out of the water, run toward the finish, hear a shout for another local Pembrokeshire chap I'm usually not far behind, then hear "20 seconds left to get under an hour" and crossed the line in 59:50, a PB for a currentless Iron distance. Pretty pleased with that! LCW Swim
Next morning joined the crowds for the start of the bike, found a fair group of Pembrokeshire locals and decided to ride with them. The start sort of established what the ride would be like; a few groups leathered it off, and our group of 6/7 started picking up speed. I had driven the route the afternoon before so there were no surprises, we kept accelerating and began to pick off the groups ahead. We'd catch them, sit with the for a while, then come to the front, and start pushing on, the target being the next group up ahead. The roads were closed and drafting allowed, so you can imagine there were some big peletons happening. Our group kept swelling in size as we'd collect the faster riders from the groups we were passing, and by the second lap it had grown to somewhere around 30-40. We were also flying, the average pace was over 20mph and we even had a few "Will we be under 5 hours?" thoughts. However, a harsh reminder about group cycling. I pulled out of the wind having pushed on, someone braked, someone else took avoiding action... I don't know, but what I do know is I looked back over toward the group to see one of our local chaps go off the road and over the handlebars hitting the hedge hard. Given the 25-30mph impact the only consolation was that it wasn't worse, he went in hard enough to split the helmet, so it was damn good to see him out supporting the marathon the next day. Broken collarbone, dislocated shoulder and ligament damage, and the end of his event. We waited for the ambulance, made sure there was someone on their way to collect the bike, then carried on. I must admit the mood had gone rather sombre, the legs felt a big done and it didn't take long for our group to fragment. I cycled to the end of the course in a mini group and we finished in 5hrs 40ish. By a long way my quickest century. Although it may have been flat there were some truly spectacular views as you could see the northern mountains flanking the north edge of the route. My Strava for this one is a bit pointless; my watch kept auto pausing and so was all over the place. A link to the course: http://www.lcwmallorca.com/course-info/
Run day - I was vastly undertrained! I've not really run this year until Ironman Wales due to suspected Plantar fasciitis, so just hoped the flat course would allow me to run more of it than normal, and make it to the end. I set of with a member of a Pembrokeshire tri club and we decided to stick together for as much as possible. We deliberately dropped the pace after the start, and I think it really helped to keep going, I think I only walked for about a mile or so in total, managing to stumble across in 4hrs 40, another PB but someway off what I should be able to do with a few more miles in the legs. LCW Run
Overall it put me somewhere around the halfway mark in the results with a total time of 11hrs 27mins, an excellent 3 days. It's fair to say it doesn't yet have the atmosphere of the LCW in Tenby yet, but it was still well organised and I'd highly recommend.
The inaugural Long Course Weekend Mallorca followed the same format as the LCW in Tenby with Iron Distance events (and some shorter options) spread over 3 days; the swims on Friday, the Bike on Saturday and Run on Sunday. I've taken part in some parts of the LCW in Tenby since 2013, but had not actually done the full Long Course, so figured this was my chance to have a go and get the full medal collection. Also, looking at the route profiles on the webpage, the bike route looked flat, so it was also my first opportunity to have a go at a flat bike 112.
Given it was their first year the event is in its early days; they had approximately 170 registered to do the full Long course, with a total of about 1,000 people taking part when you included individual event entrants. There were a lot of Welsh there, plenty of IM Wales and LCW Tenby entrants.
I chose to use a wetsuit for the swim, I don't think I saw anyone without. The waters were crystal clear and warm (18-19 degrees), rather different to sea swimming in Pembrokeshire! Quick warm up 10 mins before, my first time in the Med for over 10 years, wonder if it was enough to feel accustomed to the sea, realise I'd forgotten body glide/lube... Oh well. Can't do anything about it now!
Start horn, into the water, went off a little too fast then eased off but couldn't find any quick feet to follow, they didn't seem to be sighting well (or quite likely I was the problem) and seemed to me to be zig-zagging. Out, round for the second lap, resist the temptation to check the watch for a midway time check, and back in. Quietly swore at someone who appeared to be pushing left, looked up, sighted the line of yellow bouys, cracked on... and realised I was following some mooring/reef bouys. Dammit! So it was me. Sighted the turn bouy and carried on solo now about 50 yards behind the group I was with. Still, started to feel good, so pushed the last half lap hoping for a flat water PB. Stung twice by those little stingy jellyfish, damn things may be little but their sting is worse that the Kei car sized Barrel jellyfish we get in Tenby! Out of the water, run toward the finish, hear a shout for another local Pembrokeshire chap I'm usually not far behind, then hear "20 seconds left to get under an hour" and crossed the line in 59:50, a PB for a currentless Iron distance. Pretty pleased with that! LCW Swim
Next morning joined the crowds for the start of the bike, found a fair group of Pembrokeshire locals and decided to ride with them. The start sort of established what the ride would be like; a few groups leathered it off, and our group of 6/7 started picking up speed. I had driven the route the afternoon before so there were no surprises, we kept accelerating and began to pick off the groups ahead. We'd catch them, sit with the for a while, then come to the front, and start pushing on, the target being the next group up ahead. The roads were closed and drafting allowed, so you can imagine there were some big peletons happening. Our group kept swelling in size as we'd collect the faster riders from the groups we were passing, and by the second lap it had grown to somewhere around 30-40. We were also flying, the average pace was over 20mph and we even had a few "Will we be under 5 hours?" thoughts. However, a harsh reminder about group cycling. I pulled out of the wind having pushed on, someone braked, someone else took avoiding action... I don't know, but what I do know is I looked back over toward the group to see one of our local chaps go off the road and over the handlebars hitting the hedge hard. Given the 25-30mph impact the only consolation was that it wasn't worse, he went in hard enough to split the helmet, so it was damn good to see him out supporting the marathon the next day. Broken collarbone, dislocated shoulder and ligament damage, and the end of his event. We waited for the ambulance, made sure there was someone on their way to collect the bike, then carried on. I must admit the mood had gone rather sombre, the legs felt a big done and it didn't take long for our group to fragment. I cycled to the end of the course in a mini group and we finished in 5hrs 40ish. By a long way my quickest century. Although it may have been flat there were some truly spectacular views as you could see the northern mountains flanking the north edge of the route. My Strava for this one is a bit pointless; my watch kept auto pausing and so was all over the place. A link to the course: http://www.lcwmallorca.com/course-info/
Run day - I was vastly undertrained! I've not really run this year until Ironman Wales due to suspected Plantar fasciitis, so just hoped the flat course would allow me to run more of it than normal, and make it to the end. I set of with a member of a Pembrokeshire tri club and we decided to stick together for as much as possible. We deliberately dropped the pace after the start, and I think it really helped to keep going, I think I only walked for about a mile or so in total, managing to stumble across in 4hrs 40, another PB but someway off what I should be able to do with a few more miles in the legs. LCW Run
Overall it put me somewhere around the halfway mark in the results with a total time of 11hrs 27mins, an excellent 3 days. It's fair to say it doesn't yet have the atmosphere of the LCW in Tenby yet, but it was still well organised and I'd highly recommend.
Well done mate! Great to get some PB’s I’m having some major motivation issues atm so need to get into the swing of thing.
Had planned to do 2 Ironman races mext year but currently a potential house move is derailing any idea of that as obviously I need a new bike haha.
Think the winter is going to involve some running for weight loss and regain some pace back towards the days of 7 minuet averages for 10k. Need to get back to a weekly long run of 7/8 miles too.
Need to start competing again myself again I think.
Had planned to do 2 Ironman races mext year but currently a potential house move is derailing any idea of that as obviously I need a new bike haha.
Think the winter is going to involve some running for weight loss and regain some pace back towards the days of 7 minuet averages for 10k. Need to get back to a weekly long run of 7/8 miles too.
Need to start competing again myself again I think.
Sod it, I said I'd never do it again but I reckon I need to enter myself for another half. This time with a bit of training. I absolutely didn't do myself justice at Holkham and, to be fair, I've got a bit lazy. And fat.. I can either do that or the Vetruvian (spelling?) Any thoughts? This time, I will do more than two swims, and a bit of running, largely, because it isn't cheap and I want to make the most of it. Last year, the hubster forfeited racing at Imola to come and watch - that's the only reason I actually went through with it, I didn't want to let him down. This time, I'm going to take it a bit more seriously. Anyone got some training schedules?
Dimski said:
Long Course Weekend Mallorca . . .
Thanks for the write-up - looks and sounds like a cracking weekend's training and a great excuse to do it in the Med!! Did you get a chance to cycle over any of the Tramuntana whilst you there? Awesome climbs and views.Dimski said:
Stung twice by those little stingy jellyfish
Yeah, I had a couple of welts left by them after I got out of the water at IM Mallorca - the water was 26°C so no wetsuits and no protection from them! TBH, I prefer them as you can't see them (well, I didn't anyway) - those barrel things over here scare the crap out of me - they're massive!!!skintemma said:
Any thoughts?
I'd say just get one entered and that'll be all the motivation you need! Enter one that gives you sufficient time to achieve the level of preparation you'll need and then plan what you need to do - I've got some fairly generic plans if you need some, you'll just need to alter them to factor in your strengths/weaknesses & daily schedule of other stuff!Talking of getting stuff entered, I got involved in the ballot for Norseman - as expected, massively over-subscribed and I (yet again!) didn't get a place
However, every cloud - I also entered the ballot for the inaugural sister event in Sweden and only damn well got a place!!
Problem is I don't know whether to be pleased about it or not - I think it's safe to say it's not a PB event!Come August 11th though, I'll be on the startline and I can only be sure of one thing - the scenery will be stunning!
Booked my first one of the year! Southam Triathlon on 29th April. It's a short pool swim sprint distance, but as my only other 'triathlon' was a pool based GoTri event a few years ago I am quite content with that. I have my own bike now instead of a borrowed one and I'm quite excited to be using it in anger!
At the minute (with minimal to no training) my splits are:
400m swim ~ 10 minutes
10k bike ~ 30 minutes
5k run ~ 25 minutes
If I actually pull my finger out and do some training what sort of times are achievable? I'd like to go sub 1 hour if possible...
At the minute (with minimal to no training) my splits are:
400m swim ~ 10 minutes
10k bike ~ 30 minutes
5k run ~ 25 minutes
If I actually pull my finger out and do some training what sort of times are achievable? I'd like to go sub 1 hour if possible...
craig r said:
Booked my first one of the year! Southam Triathlon on 29th April. It's a short pool swim sprint distance, but as my only other 'triathlon' was a pool based GoTri event a few years ago I am quite content with that. I have my own bike now instead of a borrowed one and I'm quite excited to be using it in anger!
At the minute (with minimal to no training) my splits are:
400m swim ~ 10 minutes
10k bike ~ 30 minutes
5k run ~ 25 minutes
If I actually pull my finger out and do some training what sort of times are achievable? I'd like to go sub 1 hour if possible...
Your run is pretty reasonable, you have loads of time to gain on the bike though. You should be able to knock 5 mins of that with no trouble with a bit of focused training, and even more than that with a few months work. A bit of swim coaching to refine your technique will be able to bring down the swim time by 1-2 mins. 10mins for a 400m means your stroke mechanics are likely not great. Swimming is mostly about great technique, especially at those speeds. Again with some focused training and some speed work you can probably knock a couple of mins from your run also.At the minute (with minimal to no training) my splits are:
400m swim ~ 10 minutes
10k bike ~ 30 minutes
5k run ~ 25 minutes
If I actually pull my finger out and do some training what sort of times are achievable? I'd like to go sub 1 hour if possible...
Scabutz said:
Your run is pretty reasonable, you have loads of time to gain on the bike though. You should be able to knock 5 mins of that with no trouble with a bit of focused training, and even more than that with a few months work. A bit of swim coaching to refine your technique will be able to bring down the swim time by 1-2 mins. 10mins for a 400m means your stroke mechanics are likely not great. Swimming is mostly about great technique, especially at those speeds. Again with some focused training and some speed work you can probably knock a couple of mins from your run also.
I have 16 weeks so I've got time.My swimming technique is terrible, I've watched a lot of YouTube videos on improving technique and it has helped a bit. My swim time is a mixture of strokes, I struggle to do more than 100m front crawl in one go, I'm properly out of breath so I know that I'm putting in way more effort than I need to. I'm sure that will improve with getting some laps in!
craig r said:
I have 16 weeks so I've got time.
My swimming technique is terrible, I've watched a lot of YouTube videos on improving technique and it has helped a bit. My swim time is a mixture of strokes, I struggle to do more than 100m front crawl in one go, I'm properly out of breath so I know that I'm putting in way more effort than I need to. I'm sure that will improve with getting some laps in!
I would suggest you get a few decent lessons. It's very easy to "think" you have a decent stroke, but until someone checks you and gives you some feedback you're going to be wasting your time a bit. Lots of coaches now film you and let you see what you're doing wrong. (Swim Smooth may have a coach near you) Alternatively ask a friend to watch you for a bit. My swimming technique is terrible, I've watched a lot of YouTube videos on improving technique and it has helped a bit. My swim time is a mixture of strokes, I struggle to do more than 100m front crawl in one go, I'm properly out of breath so I know that I'm putting in way more effort than I need to. I'm sure that will improve with getting some laps in!
Most common mistakes are
1) Crossing over your hands in front of your head. Imagine a centreline of your spine going out in front of your head. Hands should stay on their respective sides
2) When you take a breath your feet "scissor kick" instead of stay in line with your body
3) Your wrist drops below you're hand. Exposing the palm to the water (increasing water resistance) Connected to that is your elbow dropping.
Don't worry about buying fins (flippers) or metronomes or central snorkels of any of that crap. Paddles (not too big) and pull buoy are all a Triathlete needs. Using those will increase a good stroke to a fast stroke.
Rich_W said:
craig r said:
I have 16 weeks so I've got time.
My swimming technique is terrible, I've watched a lot of YouTube videos on improving technique and it has helped a bit. My swim time is a mixture of strokes, I struggle to do more than 100m front crawl in one go, I'm properly out of breath so I know that I'm putting in way more effort than I need to. I'm sure that will improve with getting some laps in!
I would suggest you get a few decent lessons. It's very easy to "think" you have a decent stroke, but until someone checks you and gives you some feedback you're going to be wasting your time a bit. Lots of coaches now film you and let you see what you're doing wrong. (Swim Smooth may have a coach near you) Alternatively ask a friend to watch you for a bit. My swimming technique is terrible, I've watched a lot of YouTube videos on improving technique and it has helped a bit. My swim time is a mixture of strokes, I struggle to do more than 100m front crawl in one go, I'm properly out of breath so I know that I'm putting in way more effort than I need to. I'm sure that will improve with getting some laps in!
Most common mistakes are
1) Crossing over your hands in front of your head. Imagine a centreline of your spine going out in front of your head. Hands should stay on their respective sides
2) When you take a breath your feet "scissor kick" instead of stay in line with your body
3) Your wrist drops below you're hand. Exposing the palm to the water (increasing water resistance) Connected to that is your elbow dropping.
Don't worry about buying fins (flippers) or metronomes or central snorkels of any of that crap. Paddles (not too big) and pull buoy are all a Triathlete needs. Using those will increase a good stroke to a fast stroke.
If you can't find a coach then mine does remote analysis where you get someone to film you and upload it and he will add some annotations to the film and comments and give you drills to correct.
Entered Leeds (Sprint) and am bricking the swim. Bike and run should be ok, distances are ok and have trained for them for ages.
I can do the distance in the open water but with no speed. Anyone any advice about how to train? Also I’m not the kind of person to just let someone swim over me at the start - I’ll retaliate, is this a phenomenon I should expect/be concerned about?
I can do the distance in the open water but with no speed. Anyone any advice about how to train? Also I’m not the kind of person to just let someone swim over me at the start - I’ll retaliate, is this a phenomenon I should expect/be concerned about?
Scabutz said:
I agree, definitely get a coach and assessment done. Only 1-2 sessions will give you a big improvements. At 10min/400m I would suggest your problems are far worse than a cross-over and scissor kick. Although a scissor kick can create a huge amount of drag. I would guess you have very sinky legs. This is often caused by too high a head position.
If you can't find a coach then mine does remote analysis where you get someone to film you and upload it and he will add some annotations to the film and comments and give you drills to correct.
Craig RIf you can't find a coach then mine does remote analysis where you get someone to film you and upload it and he will add some annotations to the film and comments and give you drills to correct.
If you can, get someone to film you from above, the side (walking along side you from the pool deck) And if possible below the water line from the front and side. (If you have access to a water proof go pro)
Then upload it to YouTube and post it here and we'll probably be able to point out some obvious stuff.
FerdiZ28 said:
Entered Leeds (Sprint) and am bricking the swim. Bike and run should be ok, distances are ok and have trained for them for ages.
I can do the distance in the open water but with no speed. Anyone any advice about how to train? Also I’m not the kind of person to just let someone swim over me at the start - I’ll retaliate, is this a phenomenon I should expect/be concerned about?
The way to get faster is "simple" (well to explain anyway I can do the distance in the open water but with no speed. Anyone any advice about how to train? Also I’m not the kind of person to just let someone swim over me at the start - I’ll retaliate, is this a phenomenon I should expect/be concerned about?
)Incorporate some speed work into your training.
Here's a little set for you to consider.
200m EASY warm up. Nice and gentle, just turning over the arms concentrating on your form.
Then 8 lengths continuously (assuming a 25m pool) Do the 3rd, 6th and 8th as fast as you can. Try to keep an eye on your form
Rest for 10-20 seconds
Repeat the 8 lengths twice more (with the rest inbetween)
200m easy warm down. Again, concentrate on your arms and hands in the water
Total of 1K of which 225m is fast. Should take you about 20mins or so. Try and do it every 3rd time you go tot he pool. At least 1 swim should be just going up and down to do the distance. No intervals, just steady stuff. Other swim could be paddles and pullbuoy if you have them. If not maybe a lot of short intervals (no effort) concentrating on form.
Re: getting swum over. I don't know Leeds specifically but if possible put yourself to the rear 3/4 of the field. It will be a bit washing machine at the start and it can be frustrating. But hanging back a bit means you'll have a more pleasant time of it.
I would strongly recommend you DO NOT lash out at anyone.
A) because it's a waste of your energy
but
b) Mainly because you WILL get bumped about a bit, but its rarely deliberate it's just what happens when you put 200 people in the water together. People tend to hit your legs or side rather than actually swim over the top of you and dunk you. And remember that you'll be hitting others as well as you go round. So you'll be as guilty as everyone else. (obviously there are a few t
ts in there. I got kicked one time and it sucked by right goggle on so tight! 800m before the end!) I've done loads of triathlons and last year did the 2mile Swim serpentine with a friend. To me the start was normal Tri fare, bit or argy-bargy, but for him it was "brutal"
Experience I supposeAccept it's going to happen, concentrate on finding some clear water and trying to avoid it. Practice sighting if you haven't already. And at the turn buoy's don't apex it, go slightly wider as everyone tries to apex it and you end up with 4 people wrestling for no good reason.
Also if you haven't already swim in your wetsuit a few times before the event.Remember you're not going to win it in the swim. And if you are like me, you'll spend the first part of the bike overtaking the better swimmers anyway
Ferdi, if you're not a regular swimmer and can't get to the front, stick to the back/keep out the way. You simply won't have the energy for a fight. Let them thrash it out (they will) and go round the outside. They will crawl over the top of you, it's not a lot of fun! I used to swim for Glasgow and West Coast, which was very competitive, but I found my first (only) tri was bloody terrifying, especially the swim part.
skintemma said:
Ferdi, if you're not a regular swimmer and can't get to the front, stick to the back/keep out the way. You simply won't have the energy for a fight. Let them thrash it out (they will) and go round the outside. They will crawl over the top of you, it's not a lot of fun! I used to swim for Glasgow and West Coast, which was very competitive, but I found my first (only) tri was bloody terrifying, especially the swim part.
That’s good advice chaps, I’ll get some practice and treat the swim as my weakest part and not be so competitive (first tri so will be a Pb whatever happens! Thanks guys.Going to the tri show in a couple of weeks so will get my wetsuit there and once I’ve got it I’ll practice like hell st trifarm Chelmsford. I just want to enjoy it and have the lasting memory of the weekend feeling good at the beers afterward, not wanting to hunt down and maim someone in a wetsuit who swam over me
Thanks again
Scabutz said:
Rich_W said:
craig r said:
I have 16 weeks so I've got time.
My swimming technique is terrible, I've watched a lot of YouTube videos on improving technique and it has helped a bit. My swim time is a mixture of strokes, I struggle to do more than 100m front crawl in one go, I'm properly out of breath so I know that I'm putting in way more effort than I need to. I'm sure that will improve with getting some laps in!
I would suggest you get a few decent lessons. It's very easy to "think" you have a decent stroke, but until someone checks you and gives you some feedback you're going to be wasting your time a bit. Lots of coaches now film you and let you see what you're doing wrong. (Swim Smooth may have a coach near you) Alternatively ask a friend to watch you for a bit. My swimming technique is terrible, I've watched a lot of YouTube videos on improving technique and it has helped a bit. My swim time is a mixture of strokes, I struggle to do more than 100m front crawl in one go, I'm properly out of breath so I know that I'm putting in way more effort than I need to. I'm sure that will improve with getting some laps in!
Most common mistakes are
1) Crossing over your hands in front of your head. Imagine a centreline of your spine going out in front of your head. Hands should stay on their respective sides
2) When you take a breath your feet "scissor kick" instead of stay in line with your body
3) Your wrist drops below you're hand. Exposing the palm to the water (increasing water resistance) Connected to that is your elbow dropping.
Don't worry about buying fins (flippers) or metronomes or central snorkels of any of that crap. Paddles (not too big) and pull buoy are all a Triathlete needs. Using those will increase a good stroke to a fast stroke.
If you can't find a coach then mine does remote analysis where you get someone to film you and upload it and he will add some annotations to the film and comments and give you drills to correct.
craig r said:
Thanks for the tips - I will try to get some video of my stroke and / or get some coaching. I like the remote coaching idea! I will have a google and see what is available, unless anyone knows a good coach in the Northampton area?
My chap is in MK. www.greenlightpt.co.uk. Does remote video analysis or if you can get to Bletchley for a Sunday evening you can do a 1-2-1 in the pool. I have had a few 1-2-1 and seen massive improvements - couldn't swim 50m without stopping to sub 5:50 400m in a couple of years. Scabutz said:
My chap is in MK. www.greenlightpt.co.uk. Does remote video analysis or if you can get to Bletchley for a Sunday evening you can do a 1-2-1 in the pool. I have had a few 1-2-1 and seen massive improvements - couldn't swim 50m without stopping to sub 5:50 400m in a couple of years.
He was the 2nd link I clicked on! First one was the swim shed - but that was REALLY expensive.I will give him a call.
craig r said:
He was the 2nd link I clicked on! First one was the swim shed - but that was REALLY expensive.
I will give him a call.
Cool. I certainly recommend Greenlight.I will give him a call.
Hadn't heard of Swim Shed. Googled it. They do Total Immersion. A lot of people will say they have had good results with them, a lot of people thinks its crap. Its good a turning non-swimmers into ok swimmers but not for making decent fast swimmers,
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