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Hi Freddy thanks for the answer.
The new load was just a new load not to cure anything. different projectile as I ran out of the other ones
Oh it's not the riffles I've handed them around enough to people who can shoot. I typically don't do well with ring sights although I'm obviously getting better. Definitely a concentration issue because I can shoot well if I really need to.
This riffle it just for fun I like big noises and recoil and I saw it in a film and liked i and have a general interest in old military cartridges . We occasionally have informal competitions with irons I will use this.
I'm learning longer ranges up to 600m my biggest issue reading wind.
I'm hoping to take this marlin up to a few different ranges where I can stretch it's legs.
The new load was just a new load not to cure anything. different projectile as I ran out of the other ones
Oh it's not the riffles I've handed them around enough to people who can shoot. I typically don't do well with ring sights although I'm obviously getting better. Definitely a concentration issue because I can shoot well if I really need to.
This riffle it just for fun I like big noises and recoil and I saw it in a film and liked i and have a general interest in old military cartridges . We occasionally have informal competitions with irons I will use this.
I'm learning longer ranges up to 600m my biggest issue reading wind.
I'm hoping to take this marlin up to a few different ranges where I can stretch it's legs.
Edited by Pesty on Sunday 12th November 19:44
Edited by Pesty on Sunday 12th November 19:58
aeropilot said:
FurtiveFreddy said:
or someone in the HO is talking nonsense.
Wouldn't be the first time......... 
Pesty said:
It's a ghost ring style rear sight ( not sure what it's proper name is) , marlin 1875 sbl 45-70 first 5 rounds down range cold bore to the left( down in this orientation) , 3 in same hole and the other next to it. I'd live to say it was 100meters un supported in strong wind but I'd be lying. Only 25 meters supported so not that impressive. I was still chuffed with the three in the same hole though.
Mmmm, I see. I went spaghetti western and bought an Italian lever action. It does have the potential to be accurate, but the sights are a bit slap dash like a 1975 Fiat. The rear buckhorn has no windage adjustment and you can actually see those Italians have put it on not quite in the centre of the barrel, so the gun shoots left. This is compounded by a short barrel and the rear sight quite forward about where the front of your piccatinny rail is. Plus it is a buckhorn sight which is open to interpretation anyway. I plan to swap the rear buckhorn sight for a ghost ring sight.
creampuff said:
Mmmm, I see. I went spaghetti western and bought an Italian lever action. It does have the potential to be accurate, but the sights are a bit slap dash like a 1975 Fiat. The rear buckhorn has no windage adjustment and you can actually see those Italians have put it on not quite in the centre of the barrel, so the gun shoots left. This is compounded by a short barrel and the rear sight quite forward about where the front of your piccatinny rail is. Plus it is a buckhorn sight which is open to interpretation anyway.
I plan to swap the rear buckhorn sight for a ghost ring sight.
I belive the way to adjust those for windage is use a brass drift and hammer tap it over .I plan to swap the rear buckhorn sight for a ghost ring sight.
That's what I did on my Rossi.
My Uberti 1873 Competition was bang-on out of the box...... (and so it should given it's being sold as a ready to compete with gun!!)
It was still surprisingly good even with only cowboy actions loads out to 100 yds given Magtech state a bullet drop of 21ft at 100yds....
(although I suspect that's out of a 5" barrel SAA rather than a rifle/carbine with a 20" barrel)
It was still surprisingly good even with only cowboy actions loads out to 100 yds given Magtech state a bullet drop of 21ft at 100yds....
(although I suspect that's out of a 5" barrel SAA rather than a rifle/carbine with a 20" barrel)Pesty said:
I belive the way to adjust those for windage is use a brass drift and hammer tap it over .
That's what I did on my Rossi.
I'm going to have to sort something out as I've bought a cowboy hat, several checked shirts and have some rhinestone boots on my watchlist; I'll look a bit silly if I can't make holes appear somewhere near the middle of the target. That's what I did on my Rossi.
Police have now had to admit that the .50 cal which was stolen from an RFD was in fact recovered. This was used as the main catalyst for the possibility that .50s might end up in the wrong hands. Brings back into question the whole issue around the .50 ban which is almost certainly going to come in.
red_slr said:
Police have now had to admit that the .50 cal which was stolen from an RFD was in fact recovered. This was used as the main catalyst for the possibility that .50s might end up in the wrong hands. Brings back into question the whole issue around the .50 ban which is almost certainly going to come in.
The facts matter nothing where the Govt are concerned. They won't even 'need' to ban them, given MOD have already withdrawn permission to use them on MOD ranges on the pretence of pending outcome of the consultation, so by definition, for many of those with .50 cal variations, no use of MOD ranges is going to mean nowhere to shoot them, which by definition means no longer having a 'reason to own' and thereby withdraw of the variation......Effective 'ban via the back door' - so I'm sure a 'word was had in the ear' of the MOD.
red_slr said:
No I know that's why I say its almost certainly going to come in.
Its a national disgrace that such underhand tactics are being used.
The trouble is we're only 0.25% of the population so we don't count.Its a national disgrace that such underhand tactics are being used.
Any other minority persecuted in the same way and the media would be in uproar, but given the media is pretty much 100% anti-shooting they will happily turn a blind eye.
And all the so-called National Associations are pretty much useless as there is no effective 'single umbrella' group to take to fight to the media/Govt on our behalf as the sport is so fractured in itself.
There is stuff going on behind the scenes and it is certainly not a foregone conclusion this will go through, but I agree we are lacking unified representation and that's something which needs addressing if not this time, certainly before they try something like this again.
Which they will.
Which they will.
red_slr said:
Bang on. I have said it for a while I really do think we will end up with bolt guns and sporting shotguns. Everything else will go s.5.
Let's not forget the .50s they are going after now are bolt guns.In the EU legislation there was mention of restriction on 'military' calibres and some countries already consider .308 as a military calibre.
So, banning .308 bolt action target rifles is actually not that many steps away from where we are now.
But tell that to most TR shooters and I'm sure they'll have their own reasons why they are safe in their own cosy cocoon.
FurtiveFreddy said:
Let's not forget the .50s they are going after now are bolt guns.
In the EU legislation there was mention of restriction on 'military' calibres and some countries already consider .308 as a military calibre.
So, banning .308 bolt action target rifles is actually not that many steps away from where we are now.
But tell that to most TR shooters and I'm sure they'll have their own reasons why they are safe in their own cosy cocoon.
Most of my guns are military calibre, 7.62*54r, 7.62*51, 7.62*39, 577-450 (Not so popular now!).In the EU legislation there was mention of restriction on 'military' calibres and some countries already consider .308 as a military calibre.
So, banning .308 bolt action target rifles is actually not that many steps away from where we are now.
But tell that to most TR shooters and I'm sure they'll have their own reasons why they are safe in their own cosy cocoon.
Halb said:
Pesty said:
I was thinking of getting a MARS VZ too 
the poster I quoted mentioned under lever.
What's a MARS VZ? (Military Assault Rifle S?) the poster I quoted mentioned under lever. It's a sort of half way house between a traditional bolt action rifle, and a semi-auto.
It uses gas pressure to push the bolt back after firing, as per a semi-auto, but the bolt is locked in the rear position instead of cycling another round into the chamber as in a semi-auto. The shooter therefore has to then operate an additional lever/switch etc to release the bolt forward and chamber the next round.
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