The PH Gun Cabinet - Shooting Matters

The PH Gun Cabinet - Shooting Matters

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KingNothing

3,168 posts

153 months

Tuesday 24th November 2020
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Turn7 said:
Whats the plan for Air rifles now ?
From the consultation:

said:
Proposals following the review

Given that the misuse of air weapons appears to occur disproportionately when young
people are in possession, we intend to target the key risk of under-18s’ unsupervised
possession of air weapons.

We propose to remove the exception that allows young persons who are at least 14 years
of age to have unsupervised possession of air weapons on private premises.

We propose to strengthen and clarify the offence of failing to take ‘reasonable precautions’
so that whenever under-18s are on the premises, ‘reasonable precautions’ must include
locking the air weapon out of sight when not in use and storing the ammunition separately.
We do not propose to require that air weapons are stored in a gun cabinet.

Additionally, we propose to work with industry to improve the safe keeping and handling of
air weapons, to ensure that home security devices, such as securicords, are supplied with
all new air weapons, to help minimise the risk of misuse; and to ensure that dealers
explain the importance of secure handling and storage to purchasers of new air weapons
in person, at the point of sale, particularly in relation to access by under-18s.

Turn7

23,607 posts

221 months

Tuesday 24th November 2020
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KingNothing said:
Turn7 said:
Whats the plan for Air rifles now ?
From the consultation:

said:
Proposals following the review

Given that the misuse of air weapons appears to occur disproportionately when young
people are in possession, we intend to target the key risk of under-18s’ unsupervised
possession of air weapons.

We propose to remove the exception that allows young persons who are at least 14 years
of age to have unsupervised possession of air weapons on private premises.

We propose to strengthen and clarify the offence of failing to take ‘reasonable precautions’
so that whenever under-18s are on the premises, ‘reasonable precautions’ must include
locking the air weapon out of sight when not in use and storing the ammunition separately.
We do not propose to require that air weapons are stored in a gun cabinet.

Additionally, we propose to work with industry to improve the safe keeping and handling of
air weapons, to ensure that home security devices, such as securicords, are supplied with
all new air weapons, to help minimise the risk of misuse; and to ensure that dealers
explain the importance of secure handling and storage to purchasers of new air weapons
in person, at the point of sale, particularly in relation to access by under-18s.
Thanks for that.

Pesty

42,655 posts

256 months

Tuesday 24th November 2020
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Reloading?

So they plan to price us out of shooting.

aeropilot

34,570 posts

227 months

Tuesday 24th November 2020
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Pesty said:
Reloading?

So they plan to price us out of shooting.
Yep......as if an incoming Democrat Pres and Brexit in Jan (many EU reloading suppliers saying they will no longer supply to UK in 2021) were not doing a pretty good job of that already..... rolleyes

Pesty

42,655 posts

256 months

Tuesday 24th November 2020
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Typical I’ve just found a cheap supplier in Holland or somewhere.

Great, I’ve been shoot 100 45/70 and .357 a week

I worked out I’m reloading 45/70 for around 27p a round they are a fortune to buy.

aeropilot

34,570 posts

227 months

Tuesday 24th November 2020
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Pesty said:
Typical I’ve just found a cheap supplier in Holland or somewhere.
For those people that shoot rare, unusual calibres where they need to buy small quantites of brass etc., from EU based supplies this will become an issue I think.....as time go by.
The big UK reloading suppliers concentrate on the big volume popular calibres, and won't want to be say, ordering 1000's of 7.65x53 Argentine Mauser brass from PPU etc, knowing they will likely have it sitting on their shelves for years to come.

I think even for those of us that shoot run of the mill common calibre's shooting is going to get a lot more expensive over the next 12 months, on top of the massive increases in prices in the past 6-9 months.

escargot

17,110 posts

217 months

Tuesday 24th November 2020
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My new thing.

Pesty

42,655 posts

256 months

Tuesday 24th November 2020
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aeropilot said:
Pesty said:
Typical I’ve just found a cheap supplier in Holland or somewhere.
For those people that shoot rare, unusual calibres where they need to buy small quantites of brass etc., from EU based supplies this will become an issue I think.....as time go by.
The big UK reloading suppliers concentrate on the big volume popular calibres, and won't want to be say, ordering 1000's of 7.65x53 Argentine Mauser brass from PPU etc, knowing they will likely have it sitting on their shelves for years to come.

I think even for those of us that shoot run of the mill common calibre's shooting is going to get a lot more expensive over the next 12 months, on top of the massive increases in prices in the past 6-9 months.
Wait I’ve just read the part about ammunition. It’s already illegal to have primers without a licence.

This should not affect us at all, it seems aimed at the dodgy fella on that dodgy estate who has equipment but no firearms licence.

Shouldn’t affect us at all. But somehow know it will.





Turn7

23,607 posts

221 months

Tuesday 24th November 2020
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escargot said:


My new thing.
I have one just like that, and will never sell it......

aeropilot

34,570 posts

227 months

Wednesday 25th November 2020
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Pesty said:
aeropilot said:
Pesty said:
Typical I’ve just found a cheap supplier in Holland or somewhere.
For those people that shoot rare, unusual calibres where they need to buy small quantites of brass etc., from EU based supplies this will become an issue I think.....as time go by.
The big UK reloading suppliers concentrate on the big volume popular calibres, and won't want to be say, ordering 1000's of 7.65x53 Argentine Mauser brass from PPU etc, knowing they will likely have it sitting on their shelves for years to come.

I think even for those of us that shoot run of the mill common calibre's shooting is going to get a lot more expensive over the next 12 months, on top of the massive increases in prices in the past 6-9 months.
Wait I’ve just read the part about ammunition. It’s already illegal to have primers without a licence.

This should not affect us at all, it seems aimed at the dodgy fella on that dodgy estate who has equipment but no firearms licence.

Shouldn’t affect us at all. But somehow know it will.
Got it in one.

mickyh7

2,347 posts

86 months

Wednesday 25th November 2020
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Turn7 said:
escargot said:


My new thing.
I have one just like that, and will never sell it......
Me too.
Nice, but never going to be a rarity!
Never go wrong, hardly loose any money.

red_slr

17,231 posts

189 months

Thursday 26th November 2020
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S*it getting real in the US...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWBPmHv9jY0


Iminquarantine

2,168 posts

44 months

Thursday 26th November 2020
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red_slr said:
S*it getting real in the US...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWBPmHv9jY0
Biden will not control guns just like Obama did not control guns. Infact I'd say there will be more guns sold during the Biden presidency, just because people think he will introduce restrictions when in reality he won't. The US is too divided; Biden will have other things to do than try to restrict firearms which will cause divisions and protests within the country that he does not need or want.

jimmyjimjim

7,339 posts

238 months

Thursday 26th November 2020
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To be fair, Biden is keen on gun control. However, with the Senate in republican control (and even if it wasn't), he's limited to sounds bite controls.

Expect a lot of noise, a few things to pass, some more things to get hung up in the Senate, and no real change.

Pesty

42,655 posts

256 months

Friday 27th November 2020
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He’s not president yet either.Press don’t call elections

And I shouldn’t be tired and bored. Just ordered a new scope smile well there was 10% off.

Johnspex

4,342 posts

184 months

Friday 27th November 2020
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Turn7 said:
escargot said:


My new thing.
I have one just like that, and will never sell it......
What make is that?

mickyh7

2,347 posts

86 months

Friday 27th November 2020
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Johnspex said:
Turn7 said:
escargot said:


My new thing.
I have one just like that, and will never sell it......
What make is that?
It's a Beretta
Model is Silver Pigeon.

Johnspex

4,342 posts

184 months

Friday 27th November 2020
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Thanks.

aeropilot

34,570 posts

227 months

Friday 27th November 2020
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Pesty said:
He’s not president yet either.Press don’t call elections
The election is over, Biden is Pres-Elect, nothing is going to change that.


NMNeil

5,860 posts

50 months

Friday 27th November 2020
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aeropilot said:
The election is over, Biden is Pres-Elect, nothing is going to change that.
The Republicans will be concentrating on limiting how much damage he can do to the Constitution and economy in the next 4 years.