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WantSagaris

236 posts

47 months

Sunday 16th May 2021
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I think GC Grant Tour ambitions would be the last thing he would look at, and whilst on top in MTB I reckon he'll stay focused on that this year.

MVP made a mistake a couple of years ago skipping the MTB world's when he was the best out there to focus on the Road world's and it backfired.

frisbee

4,979 posts

110 months

Sunday 16th May 2021
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WantSagaris said:
I think GC Grant Tour ambitions would be the last thing he would look at, and whilst on top in MTB I reckon he'll stay focused on that this year.

MVP made a mistake a couple of years ago skipping the MTB world's when he was the best out there to focus on the Road world's and it backfired.
He might go to the Vuelta with nothing too lose. He's insanely light, good power, good endurance, can TT and appears to hold form for a long time.

ArnageWRC

2,065 posts

159 months

Sunday 16th May 2021
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WantSagaris said:
I think GC Grand Tour ambitions would be the last thing he would look at, and whilst on top in MTB I reckon he'll stay focused on that this year.

MVP made a mistake a couple of years ago skipping the MTB world's when he was the best out there to focus on the Road world's and it backfired.
Yes, I agree; he won 3 of the 5 XCO races he competed in, plus the European title - and finished 2nd in the World Cup despite missing 2 rounds (Andorra, Snowshoe). He was surely nailed on for a medal, if not the Gold, but skipped them for the Roads......

WantSagaris

236 posts

47 months

Sunday 16th May 2021
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frisbee said:
He might go to the Vuelta with nothing too lose. He's insanely light, good power, good endurance, can TT and appears to hold form for a long time.
Not so sure about the endurance part. I agree the Vuelta and Giro suit him more than the Tour, and its kind of sad that the one thing he has a lower chance of winning (TdF) is what the British public care about the most.

I just think he'll focus more on the shorter and one day stuff for now and then GC stuff later in his career once he's cleaned up elsewhere. He's enjoying himself a lot right now and GC training/racing is pretty boring and brutal. I also feel that maybe once you start training for GCs you start to loose a little bit of speed.

WestyCarl

3,248 posts

125 months

Monday 17th May 2021
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In the interview afterwards Pidcock did say something like "he was born for MTB'ing", how much of a choice in it he has I don't know.

If he did become world MTB champ I guess Ineo would be happy as they could add that to their portfolio of cycling achievements. He has time on his side anyway.

mooseracer

1,886 posts

170 months

Monday 17th May 2021
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Back over in Italy - some display from Bernal to win the stage. Would love to see his power figures for the gravel section.

Kes Arevo

3,555 posts

39 months

Monday 17th May 2021
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Love watching the Giro, but Sean Kelly's voice...

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Anonymous-poster

12,241 posts

206 months

Monday 17th May 2021
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WantSagaris said:
frisbee said:
He might go to the Vuelta with nothing too lose. He's insanely light, good power, good endurance, can TT and appears to hold form for a long time.
Not so sure about the endurance part. I agree the Vuelta and Giro suit him more than the Tour, and its kind of sad that the one thing he has a lower chance of winning (TdF) is what the British public care about the most.

I just think he'll focus more on the shorter and one day stuff for now and then GC stuff later in his career once he's cleaned up elsewhere. He's enjoying himself a lot right now and GC training/racing is pretty boring and brutal. I also feel that maybe once you start training for GCs you start to loose a little bit of speed.
The “public” who watch Wimbledon And the TDF but nothing else but are fans!

Parsnip

3,122 posts

188 months

Monday 17th May 2021
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mooseracer said:
Back over in Italy - some display from Bernal to win the stage. Would love to see his power figures for the gravel section.


Not quite as enormous as I thought it would be, seeing as he made everyone else look like they had their brakes jammed on, but 560W over that length of time, on gravel, is pretty handy from someone who weights about the same as a bag of Quavers.

Worth following Velon.cc on Instagram - they do the on bike footage and power data and usually have good things worth looking at. It's always good to see Ganna's numbers for a laugh.

Matt_N

8,901 posts

202 months

Monday 17th May 2021
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Ganna’s stats from the ITT were ridiculous hehe, looking forward to seeing what he does on the last stage ITT.

mcelliott

8,661 posts

181 months

Monday 17th May 2021
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Kes Arevo said:
Love watching the Giro, but Sean Kelly's voice...

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The only man ever to have nodded in a radio interview

mooseracer

1,886 posts

170 months

Monday 17th May 2021
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Thanks for the tip about Velon

frisbee

4,979 posts

110 months

Monday 17th May 2021
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WantSagaris said:
frisbee said:
He might go to the Vuelta with nothing too lose. He's insanely light, good power, good endurance, can TT and appears to hold form for a long time.
Not so sure about the endurance part. I agree the Vuelta and Giro suit him more than the Tour, and its kind of sad that the one thing he has a lower chance of winning (TdF) is what the British public care about the most.

I just think he'll focus more on the shorter and one day stuff for now and then GC stuff later in his career once he's cleaned up elsewhere. He's enjoying himself a lot right now and GC training/racing is pretty boring and brutal. I also feel that maybe once you start training for GCs you start to loose a little bit of speed.
He's been right up there at the end of some of the really long single day races, Milan San Remo at 300km etc.. I would class that as endurance.

Whether he has the recovery for a 3 week tour is another thing, however Pogacar and Bernal (and possibly Evenepoel) have overturned the traditional late 20s to start going for GC approach.

MrBarry123

6,027 posts

121 months

Monday 17th May 2021
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That was mightily impressive from Sagan today.

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WindyCommon

3,373 posts

239 months

Monday 17th May 2021
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Kes Arevo said:
Love watching the Giro, but Sean Kelly's voice...

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He’s a legend, but has an awful accent for commentating.

Q. What comes after 29? SK: “torty”
Q. What comes after 39? SK: “torty”

Highway Star

3,576 posts

231 months

Monday 17th May 2021
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MrBarry123 said:
That was mightily impressive from Sagan today.

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Indeed - always nice to see him win.

Re. Pidcock, he won the Baby Giro at a canter last year (or year before?).

Rest day tomorrow and then the strade bianche to Montalcino - disappointingly looks like a nice day on Wednesday so won't get the epic mud of Cadel and Vino but the countryside will look great.

Dr Imran T

2,301 posts

199 months

Wednesday 19th May 2021
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Highway Star said:
- disappointingly looks like a nice day on Wednesday so won't get the epic mud
Won't be disappointing for the riders though. Fan's relish adverse weather, I seem to remember they were disappointed with a 'dry' Roubaix and were putting water down on the cobbles to make them treacherous.


Parsnip

3,122 posts

188 months

Wednesday 19th May 2021
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Dr Imran T said:
Highway Star said:
- disappointingly looks like a nice day on Wednesday so won't get the epic mud
Won't be disappointing for the riders though. Fan's relish adverse weather, I seem to remember they were disappointed with a 'dry' Roubaix and were putting water down on the cobbles to make them treacherous.
Quite rightly as well. I did the sportive back in 2010 and the rain would have had Noah drawing up blueprints. The water was absolutely smashing down when we hit the Arenberg Trench - as it should be:


Dr Imran T

2,301 posts

199 months

Wednesday 19th May 2021
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^^^ well done!

mcelliott

8,661 posts

181 months

Wednesday 19th May 2021
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Loving these dust roads, some magic images