The Swimming Thread - Pool/OW
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BoRED S2upid said:
Antony Moxey said:
No. Never used to when I swam seriously so haven't bothered this time round. I did think it was dehydration (and being an unfit slob) so I'm drinking much more beforehand and have to say the cramp has reduced dramatically. I've also found easing into sets more than I used to as well has had an effect. Hopefully a bit more fluid throughout the day will sort it properly - I guess I'm just not used to doing that much exercise these days and need to get back into it gradually!
As an aside I've bought a Garmin swim 2. Hugely impressive, especially with timing reps. Anyways, I digress, I think you're right about fitness.
Maybe try 50/50 BS FC rather that 70/30. Then as your fitness improves move to more FC. I find I can do BS without getting out of breathe but FC is harder so this helps me. As an aside I've bought a Garmin swim 2. Hugely impressive, especially with timing reps. Anyways, I digress, I think you're right about fitness.
PomBstard said:
Another Proud Dad Update…
Just gone through the primary schools swimming competitions, which takes two months and culminates in the best swimmers from each Region meeting at a NSW State Primary Schools Final over two days at Sydney Olympic Park. It’s a full-on couple of days and is always exciting for kids to compete there.
Anyway, from 5 races PB Jnr2 managed 3 gold, 2 silver, 3 PBs, and one State Record. Which led to receiving the shield for Most Outstanding Multi Class Swimmer of the Meet and a place on the NSW Primary Schools State Team.
She is more bouncy than a very bouncy thing and is already planning the trip to the National event in August.
Obligatory diving pic, PB Jnr2 in Lane 1…
Fantastic stuff.Just gone through the primary schools swimming competitions, which takes two months and culminates in the best swimmers from each Region meeting at a NSW State Primary Schools Final over two days at Sydney Olympic Park. It’s a full-on couple of days and is always exciting for kids to compete there.
Anyway, from 5 races PB Jnr2 managed 3 gold, 2 silver, 3 PBs, and one State Record. Which led to receiving the shield for Most Outstanding Multi Class Swimmer of the Meet and a place on the NSW Primary Schools State Team.
She is more bouncy than a very bouncy thing and is already planning the trip to the National event in August.
Obligatory diving pic, PB Jnr2 in Lane 1…
My daughters just turned 13, and prior to Covid, ie when she was 11, she was ranked in the top 10 in the UK at 50 & 100 breast. Unfortunately Covid took its toll at the wrong time and training came to a grinding halt, and she struggled to get back into it so her ranking dropped massively. She's fully back into it now though and had a meet at the weekend where she set the fastest 100m breaststroke time of all participants (up to 17 years old).
My (15 year old) son also has just done a national fly time in training, but hasn't done it at a meet year, but has visions of going to the nationals soon. He's not as naturally talented, but so determined.
After 2 years of having a life, ie not constant shipping of kids to and forth pools evening morning/evening it appears to be coming to an end, and swimming taking over again. Even the other daughter (8 years old) is in the pool now.
Hobo said:
Fantastic stuff.
My daughters just turned 13, and prior to Covid, ie when she was 11, she was ranked in the top 10 in the UK at 50 & 100 breast. Unfortunately Covid took its toll at the wrong time and training came to a grinding halt, and she struggled to get back into it so her ranking dropped massively. She's fully back into it now though and had a meet at the weekend where she set the fastest 100m breaststroke time of all participants (up to 17 years old).
My (15 year old) son also has just done a national fly time in training, but hasn't done it at a meet year, but has visions of going to the nationals soon. He's not as naturally talented, but so determined.
After 2 years of having a life, ie not constant shipping of kids to and forth pools evening morning/evening it appears to be coming to an end, and swimming taking over again. Even the other daughter (8 years old) is in the pool now.
Thanks, and congratulations to your daughter for her achievements, and to your son for his times too - those are brilliant to read about. My daughters just turned 13, and prior to Covid, ie when she was 11, she was ranked in the top 10 in the UK at 50 & 100 breast. Unfortunately Covid took its toll at the wrong time and training came to a grinding halt, and she struggled to get back into it so her ranking dropped massively. She's fully back into it now though and had a meet at the weekend where she set the fastest 100m breaststroke time of all participants (up to 17 years old).
My (15 year old) son also has just done a national fly time in training, but hasn't done it at a meet year, but has visions of going to the nationals soon. He's not as naturally talented, but so determined.
After 2 years of having a life, ie not constant shipping of kids to and forth pools evening morning/evening it appears to be coming to an end, and swimming taking over again. Even the other daughter (8 years old) is in the pool now.
Lack of competition over the past couple of years has hampered slightly, but everyone's been hit the same way. We've found that once Jnr2 was back in the pool, the PBs just kept rolling in, helped no doubt by a growth spurt, and has now met the QTs for 3/5 events in the NSW Para Dev Squad which will be for 2023. The 100Fly is the current sticking block, but we have a plan, and then the National Trials will be April 2023 - just too young this year.
And I commiserate with you regarding the time required to get all three to their sporting endeavours, at least yours are all doing the same thing. PB Jnr1 (14) dances 6 days a week and does competitions, and Jnr3 (8) now does football training twice a week, plus a game on Sat morning...
My daughter is 11 (and tiny), we've just been at Millfield at the weekend for County Champs, so relatively recent times are (all PBs as she is just starting to post times for meets):
400m Medley: 7:06 (4:51)
200m Free: 2:57 (2:08)
200m Back: 3:19 (2:16)
50m Fly: 45:97 (27:56)
50m Breast: 53:59 (32:58)
To put that into perspective the posted Millfield school (private sports school) records for under 15s girls are in brackets
My life is now driving to swimming pools
400m Medley: 7:06 (4:51)
200m Free: 2:57 (2:08)
200m Back: 3:19 (2:16)
50m Fly: 45:97 (27:56)
50m Breast: 53:59 (32:58)
To put that into perspective the posted Millfield school (private sports school) records for under 15s girls are in brackets
My life is now driving to swimming pools
Edited by TimmyMallett on Thursday 7th April 09:35
PB Jnr2 is also 11, though will be 12 later this month. However, she is also a classified multiclass athlete/swimmer as she was born missing her lower left arm and hand. She's classified as S9/SB8 (Breaststroke)/SM9 (Medley) - S1-10 is for physical disabilities, the lower the number, the more profound. There are also classifications for intellectual, sight, hearing and transplant.
Times I can find easily...
50 Free - 37.54
50 Breast - 49.24
50 Back - 44.43
50 Fly - 42.94
100 Free - 1:29.68
100 Breast - 1:48.96
She does have competition times for 100 Fly/Back and 200IM somewhere too.
For her classification, competition events are the 100s plus 200 IM
Times I can find easily...
50 Free - 37.54
50 Breast - 49.24
50 Back - 44.43
50 Fly - 42.94
100 Free - 1:29.68
100 Breast - 1:48.96
She does have competition times for 100 Fly/Back and 200IM somewhere too.
For her classification, competition events are the 100s plus 200 IM
PomBstard said:
PB Jnr2 is also 11, though will be 12 later this month. However, she is also a classified multiclass athlete/swimmer as she was born missing her lower left arm and hand. She's classified as S9/SB8 (Breaststroke)/SM9 (Medley) - S1-10 is for physical disabilities, the lower the number, the more profound. There are also classifications for intellectual, sight, hearing and transplant.
Times I can find easily...
50 Free - 37.54
50 Breast - 49.24
50 Back - 44.43
50 Fly - 42.94
100 Free - 1:29.68
100 Breast - 1:48.96
She does have competition times for 100 Fly/Back and 200IM somewhere too.
For her classification, competition events are the 100s plus 200 IM
That's disheartening (for me) - reckon she'd give me a real run for my money! Mind you, I am 56 and have just got back into the pool this year after an absence of about 15 - 20 years Times I can find easily...
50 Free - 37.54
50 Breast - 49.24
50 Back - 44.43
50 Fly - 42.94
100 Free - 1:29.68
100 Breast - 1:48.96
She does have competition times for 100 Fly/Back and 200IM somewhere too.
For her classification, competition events are the 100s plus 200 IM
TimmyMallett said:
My life is now driving to swimming pools
Well done for supporting your daughter, I hope she continues to improve and more importantly enjoy her swimming.I changed club last year, moving from a large city club (National Arena League finalists) to a smaller local club (albeit with a better Masters section). Some of us Masters do extra sessions and join in with the kids a couple of mornings a week, one swims in the lane next to his 12 year old daughter. The 15/16 year old lads do like to race us which is enjoyable though I have to remind them that several of us are older than their parents sat outside in the carpark!
Highway Star said:
Well done for supporting your daughter, I hope she continues to improve and more importantly enjoy her swimming.
I changed club last year, moving from a large city club (National Arena League finalists) to a smaller local club (albeit with a better Masters section). Some of us Masters do extra sessions and join in with the kids a couple of mornings a week, one swims in the lane next to his 12 year old daughter. The 15/16 year old lads do like to race us which is enjoyable though I have to remind them that several of us are older than their parents sat outside in the carpark!
Thanks I changed club last year, moving from a large city club (National Arena League finalists) to a smaller local club (albeit with a better Masters section). Some of us Masters do extra sessions and join in with the kids a couple of mornings a week, one swims in the lane next to his 12 year old daughter. The 15/16 year old lads do like to race us which is enjoyable though I have to remind them that several of us are older than their parents sat outside in the carpark!
My daughter loves it so I suspect if we get to nationals, I'll be trudging up and down the country at weekends Keep it up, the youngsters need inspiration!Anyone watching british champs on YT?
Some very good swims so far. Highlights being Duncan Scott doing a 400 IM British Record and Tom Dean just getting pipped in the 100 FC by Burras who very nearly took the British Record with him.
Anna Hopkin had a fantastic 50 FC as well, 24.85!
Peaty nothing to write home about by his standards, but still sub 27 for the 50 and 58. for the 100. I think he'll be happy with those in his current training state. Duncan is a weapon though, British Record in a very difficult event and he was just seeing "where he is" with his current training. Phenomenal.
Lots of fast and resilient swimming going on. Its so good to see.
They're running a strange setup as well. Heats in the morning and afternoon, but the faster heats go in the morning and slower in the afternoon. So the people who have most chance of making a final get the most rest. I think its only happened once so far that someone in the lower heats made the final and essentially had to do 400 free again a couple of hours later.
In the finals session they have 4 finals as well. Junior, Paris Potential, B and A finals. So its giving a lot of people chance to make a final and swim twice. Which I think is a good move. The Paris Potential final is an attempt to scoop those up who are a bit no-mans land: too old for junior, perhaps not quite mature enough for the bigger league.
There are 1500 swimmers there anyway, so they've not held back!
Some very good swims so far. Highlights being Duncan Scott doing a 400 IM British Record and Tom Dean just getting pipped in the 100 FC by Burras who very nearly took the British Record with him.
Anna Hopkin had a fantastic 50 FC as well, 24.85!
Peaty nothing to write home about by his standards, but still sub 27 for the 50 and 58. for the 100. I think he'll be happy with those in his current training state. Duncan is a weapon though, British Record in a very difficult event and he was just seeing "where he is" with his current training. Phenomenal.
Lots of fast and resilient swimming going on. Its so good to see.
They're running a strange setup as well. Heats in the morning and afternoon, but the faster heats go in the morning and slower in the afternoon. So the people who have most chance of making a final get the most rest. I think its only happened once so far that someone in the lower heats made the final and essentially had to do 400 free again a couple of hours later.
In the finals session they have 4 finals as well. Junior, Paris Potential, B and A finals. So its giving a lot of people chance to make a final and swim twice. Which I think is a good move. The Paris Potential final is an attempt to scoop those up who are a bit no-mans land: too old for junior, perhaps not quite mature enough for the bigger league.
There are 1500 swimmers there anyway, so they've not held back!
Edited by Otispunkmeyer on Thursday 7th April 21:38
Not watching on YT, but keeping up with the results online.
Not really sure of the point of the Paris Potential finals - I don't think many will be in the frame for Paris in 2024 if they can't make a national B final in 2022.
I will have to watch Scott's swim in the 400IM on catchup. Faster than the time that won gold in Tokyo and at the start of the year his PB was 11 seconds slower! He is quite a special swimmer - only one other swimmer in history has done sub4.10 400IM and a sub-48 100 free... To have that ability over all four strokes, range, stamina and speed is really quite special. I'd be interested to see what his training is like.
Not really sure of the point of the Paris Potential finals - I don't think many will be in the frame for Paris in 2024 if they can't make a national B final in 2022.
I will have to watch Scott's swim in the 400IM on catchup. Faster than the time that won gold in Tokyo and at the start of the year his PB was 11 seconds slower! He is quite a special swimmer - only one other swimmer in history has done sub4.10 400IM and a sub-48 100 free... To have that ability over all four strokes, range, stamina and speed is really quite special. I'd be interested to see what his training is like.
Highway Star said:
Not watching on YT, but keeping up with the results online.
Not really sure of the point of the Paris Potential finals - I don't think many will be in the frame for Paris in 2024 if they can't make a national B final in 2022.
I will have to watch Scott's swim in the 400IM on catchup. Faster than the time that won gold in Tokyo and at the start of the year his PB was 11 seconds slower! He is quite a special swimmer - only one other swimmer in history has done sub4.10 400IM and a sub-48 100 free... To have that ability over all four strokes, range, stamina and speed is really quite special. I'd be interested to see what his training is like.
Yeah. There is a YT channel called "inside with Brett Hawke" or something to that effect. He's interviewed quite a lot of top flight people. His interview with Mel Marshall was great, some of things she's had Peaty do really show you why he's so good. There is one with Duncan Scott which is a more recent one, not watched it all the way through yet. He's also interviewed Scott's coach Steve Tigg. Not really sure of the point of the Paris Potential finals - I don't think many will be in the frame for Paris in 2024 if they can't make a national B final in 2022.
I will have to watch Scott's swim in the 400IM on catchup. Faster than the time that won gold in Tokyo and at the start of the year his PB was 11 seconds slower! He is quite a special swimmer - only one other swimmer in history has done sub4.10 400IM and a sub-48 100 free... To have that ability over all four strokes, range, stamina and speed is really quite special. I'd be interested to see what his training is like.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcTzV0NQGgI
Not watched that one yet.
These vids are a little hard to find, even on the guys channel because I don't think he playlists them all properly and his video list is interspersed with lots of short snippets from the larger videos. But normally once you are watching one, others will show up.
Antony Moxey said:
PomBstard said:
PB Jnr2 is also 11, though will be 12 later this month. However, she is also a classified multiclass athlete/swimmer as she was born missing her lower left arm and hand. She's classified as S9/SB8 (Breaststroke)/SM9 (Medley) - S1-10 is for physical disabilities, the lower the number, the more profound. There are also classifications for intellectual, sight, hearing and transplant.
Times I can find easily...
50 Free - 37.54
50 Breast - 49.24
50 Back - 44.43
50 Fly - 42.94
100 Free - 1:29.68
100 Breast - 1:48.96
She does have competition times for 100 Fly/Back and 200IM somewhere too.
For her classification, competition events are the 100s plus 200 IM
That's disheartening (for me) - reckon she'd give me a real run for my money! Mind you, I am 56 and have just got back into the pool this year after an absence of about 15 - 20 years Times I can find easily...
50 Free - 37.54
50 Breast - 49.24
50 Back - 44.43
50 Fly - 42.94
100 Free - 1:29.68
100 Breast - 1:48.96
She does have competition times for 100 Fly/Back and 200IM somewhere too.
For her classification, competition events are the 100s plus 200 IM
Don’t worry, leaves me in her wake…
100 Back is 1:42.12
200 IM is 3:43.56 - though hasn’t done one for a while
100 Fly is around 1:50, can’t find exact time
All times are long course
Hi all, don’t post on this thread but occasionally scan over it, but this time after seeing the kids results I thought I could post.
Mine is 10 and a keen swimmer, top 10 regional and just got a 10yo county record SC 100m back
We took him on Friday to watch the UK champs. Got chatting to the stewards in the morning as couldn’t see Peaty on the start lists and wondered if they knew he had pulled out or whatever.
Anyway, on the way to the afternoon session, same steward came up to us and asked if my son wanted to be a kit boy on the side of the pool! Great experience for him to be close to the action.
He said everyone was really friendly and met a few other kids he may meet again on the regional circuit.
We waited until the end to get a couple of autographs, and met James Guy for a few mins and chatted away, and who then gave my lad his Gold medal for his 100 Fly he had just won !
He was shaking when he put it round his neck!
What an inspiration to the next generation he was.
Mine is 10 and a keen swimmer, top 10 regional and just got a 10yo county record SC 100m back
We took him on Friday to watch the UK champs. Got chatting to the stewards in the morning as couldn’t see Peaty on the start lists and wondered if they knew he had pulled out or whatever.
Anyway, on the way to the afternoon session, same steward came up to us and asked if my son wanted to be a kit boy on the side of the pool! Great experience for him to be close to the action.
He said everyone was really friendly and met a few other kids he may meet again on the regional circuit.
We waited until the end to get a couple of autographs, and met James Guy for a few mins and chatted away, and who then gave my lad his Gold medal for his 100 Fly he had just won !
He was shaking when he put it round his neck!
What an inspiration to the next generation he was.
NumBMW said:
Mine is 10 and a keen swimmer ... and met James Guy for a few mins and chatted away, and who then gave my lad his Gold medal for his 100 Fly he had just won! He was shaking when he put it round his neck! What an inspiration to the next generation he was.
Fantastic, and that's how to inspire the next generation 
Salted_Peanut said:
NumBMW said:
Mine is 10 and a keen swimmer ... and met James Guy for a few mins and chatted away, and who then gave my lad his Gold medal for his 100 Fly he had just won! He was shaking when he put it round his neck! What an inspiration to the next generation he was.
Fantastic, and that's how to inspire the next generation It was a similar experience that got our arses into gear to get PB Jnr2 classified for Multi Class sports, including swimming. It really can be a fantastic reminder - seeing that medal every day. Good for him!
NumBMW said:
We waited until the end to get a couple of autographs, and met James Guy for a few mins and chatted away, and who then gave my lad his Gold medal for his 100 Fly he had just won !
He was shaking when he put it round his neck!
What an inspiration to the next generation he was.
I remember what it is like to meet your swimming heroes as a kid - when I was 10 I met Adrian Moorhouse who was doing a tour after winning gold in Seoul in 1988. He was sat at a table upstairs in C&A in Poole next to the winter jackets and signed me and my sister's club hats. I chatted to him for ages as nobody else showed up! I also have a picture somewhere of me as a 10 or 11 year old stood next to a teenage Mark Foster at regional championships - he's 8 years older than me but I knew one of his teammates at Millfield - he had a bit of reputation as a teenager, but chatted to all the younger kids in the changing rooms and in the stands very warmly and would always say hello to me at meets.
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