The **BOXING** thread Vol 2
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Great fight for me. AJ can’t win for some, not sure what he has to do? Wilder vs Fury I think will go the Americans way, then they’ll have a rematch.
I believe AJ will be too much for Wilder who hasn’t fought anyone with that sort of power of quality. Having said that it’s Heavyweight, therefore one punch either way could send one or other down.
Usual crap from Fury this am, I’d love to see him take a proper hiding, second only to Eddie Hearn
I believe AJ will be too much for Wilder who hasn’t fought anyone with that sort of power of quality. Having said that it’s Heavyweight, therefore one punch either way could send one or other down.
Usual crap from Fury this am, I’d love to see him take a proper hiding, second only to Eddie Hearn
Gameface said:
Why the hate for Hearn? He's someone I've know for a number of years.
He comes across as a used car/double glazing salesman.He also comes across having an ego beyond his achievements. And his dismissal of other promoters, some who were in the game whilst he was in nappies, isn't endearing.
hyphen said:
Gameface said:
Why the hate for Hearn? He's someone I've know for a number of years.
He comes across as a used car/double glazing salesman.He also comes across having an ego beyond his achievements. And his dismissal of other promoters, some who were in the game whilst he was in nappies, isn't endearing.
But like I said. I know him (since school) you don't.
Not everyone is the same infront of the cameras/in business as they are in private.
Gameface said:
There was obviously some nepotism involved because Barry set him up in life/business.
But like I said. I know him (since school) you don't.
Not everyone is the same infront of the cameras/in business as they are in private.
Just because he is your mate down the pub is not relavant in the context of this conversation, after all you may be two peas in a pod!!But like I said. I know him (since school) you don't.
Not everyone is the same infront of the cameras/in business as they are in private.
His big Dazn $1 billion 'we are going to sign big names', flopped. As he is not a figure the boxing world appears to trust and Boxers themselves don't trust his integrity. Although saying that, it is only Al Haymon that appears to be universally loved.
He also, so far, has underestimated the American competition to the point of incompetence, and his under estimation of Warren, a Hall of Fame trainer, also cost him as he failed to sign Fury aggressively enough, and let a weak negotiating position Wilder slip away, which could be replaced with a stronger Wilder who has won against Fury, and due to this AJ could lose a ridiculous amount of cash (Hearn's self interest in needing a massive fight on Dazn at launch was there in his movements if you ask me, as Wilder has loyalty to his network).
He also put on Haye-Bellew 1
and Haye Bellew 2
How much did he know of Hayes condition? He is known as 'Fast Eddie' after all.On the plus side, he can be quite entertaining and revealing in his IFL you tube videos.
Edited by hyphen on Sunday 23 September 13:58
Knowing him since school is not the same as a bloke "down the pub" as you put it. I've known him for 30 years FFS.
So you dislike him because he hasn't made good decisions in business in your opinion? How does affect you? That angers you why? What position do you hold in the boxing world?
He's a multi millionaire in his mid thirties. Are you? People who achieve that tend to be confident/cocky. Tends to cultivate haters too.
I'm not going to argue with you. In fact this will be my last post on the matter.
You know NOTHING about the man other than what you've seen from your armchair.
Just be aware that public perception is different to the reality in private.
That's hardly an unreasonable thing to suggest.
So you dislike him because he hasn't made good decisions in business in your opinion? How does affect you? That angers you why? What position do you hold in the boxing world?
He's a multi millionaire in his mid thirties. Are you? People who achieve that tend to be confident/cocky. Tends to cultivate haters too.
I'm not going to argue with you. In fact this will be my last post on the matter.
You know NOTHING about the man other than what you've seen from your armchair.
Just be aware that public perception is different to the reality in private.
That's hardly an unreasonable thing to suggest.
Oh dear. I should have known better than to reply 
And BTW, I don't dislike him personally, I was replying to your question of 'why people hate him'. I find Eddie an interesting character to observe, and curious as to how much he will achieve, especially in the US. As said, his Youtube IFL vids tend to be entertaining.
And he does come across as a used car salesman whose car you would get an independent inspection on before buying, just to be sure
Gameface said:
People who achieve that tend to be confident/cocky.
No they don't.Gameface said:
He's a multi millionaire in his mid thirties.
Chairman dad still works heavily in Matchroom... His dad was heavily involved in the Wilder negotiations for example and his presence felt at every valuable deal.Gameface said:
Knowing him since school is not the same as a bloke "down the pub" as you put it. I've known him for 30 years FFS.
So you dislike him because he hasn't made good decisions in business in your opinion? How does affect you? That angers you why? What position do you hold in the boxing world?
He's a multi millionaire in his mid thirties. Are you? People who achieve that tend to be confident/cocky. Tends to cultivate haters too.
I'm not going to argue with you. In fact this will be my last post on the matter.
You know NOTHING about the man other than what you've seen from your armchair.
Just be aware that public perception is different to the reality in private.
That's hardly an unreasonable thing to suggest.
I've known a lot of not very nice but successful people, they all have friends...So you dislike him because he hasn't made good decisions in business in your opinion? How does affect you? That angers you why? What position do you hold in the boxing world?
He's a multi millionaire in his mid thirties. Are you? People who achieve that tend to be confident/cocky. Tends to cultivate haters too.
I'm not going to argue with you. In fact this will be my last post on the matter.
You know NOTHING about the man other than what you've seen from your armchair.
Just be aware that public perception is different to the reality in private.
That's hardly an unreasonable thing to suggest.
And BTW, I don't dislike him personally, I was replying to your question of 'why people hate him'. I find Eddie an interesting character to observe, and curious as to how much he will achieve, especially in the US. As said, his Youtube IFL vids tend to be entertaining.
And he does come across as a used car salesman whose car you would get an independent inspection on before buying, just to be sure
Edited by hyphen on Sunday 23 September 14:13
Excellent from AJ against tough tough opposition. Pov certainly hurt him early on but not enough (obviously). Those on about AJ's size, I think it's the thing that's been most useful for him. He can take a punch, it offers him protection (to a certain extent) and then when he finally gets to unleash it, curtains.
The game plan was always keep him away with the jab, protect against leaping left hooks/over hand rights and wear him down. Not go in for a bar fight which is what he did and couldn't compete.
Soon as he listened to his corner (3rd round onwards) AJ was in charge. Disappointed POV got caught/his corner couldn't see what was being setup. Jabs to the body before eventually a right hand once they instinctively drop the gaurd is literally the 3rd or 4th pad combination you teach juniors.
But then again sometimes highly skilled players make the game look easy.
Soon as he listened to his corner (3rd round onwards) AJ was in charge. Disappointed POV got caught/his corner couldn't see what was being setup. Jabs to the body before eventually a right hand once they instinctively drop the gaurd is literally the 3rd or 4th pad combination you teach juniors.
But then again sometimes highly skilled players make the game look easy.
Gameface said:
Knowing him since school is not the same as a bloke "down the pub" as you put it. I've known him for 30 years FFS.
So you dislike him because he hasn't made good decisions in business in your opinion? How does affect you? That angers you why? What position do you hold in the boxing world?
He's a multi millionaire in his mid thirties. Are you? People who achieve that tend to be confident/cocky. Tends to cultivate haters too.
I'm not going to argue with you. In fact this will be my last post on the matter.
You know NOTHING about the man other than what you've seen from your armchair.
Just be aware that public perception is different to the reality in private.
That's hardly an unreasonable thing to suggest.
“Just be aware that public perception is different to the reality in private. “So you dislike him because he hasn't made good decisions in business in your opinion? How does affect you? That angers you why? What position do you hold in the boxing world?
He's a multi millionaire in his mid thirties. Are you? People who achieve that tend to be confident/cocky. Tends to cultivate haters too.
I'm not going to argue with you. In fact this will be my last post on the matter.
You know NOTHING about the man other than what you've seen from your armchair.
Just be aware that public perception is different to the reality in private.
That's hardly an unreasonable thing to suggest.
A note to self?
I don’t know much about EH myself; he just seems to be doing his job the way I expect it to be done. Though I doubt he would be where he is without papa.
TobyTR said:
If the Wilder/Fury fight is close and goes to the judges, Wilder will get the nod... Even if most will have it 115-113/116-112/117-111 to Fury
Fury will need to KO Wilder to win, imo. Can't see it happening
People said the same about the Klitschko fight yet he still got the nod. You never know. It's all down to what happens on the day but you're right in so much as close rounds will get awarded to Wilder.Fury will need to KO Wilder to win, imo. Can't see it happening
Back to Saturday night, I thought Campbell did really well given how much pressure Mendy was applying in the first 3 rounds but he found his range nicely and didn't let him work after that. I had Campbell winning it 8-4 so had to laugh when team Mendy were jumping around as though they had won and genuinely felt they were robbed. He was game and aggressive but the aggression was completely ineffective.
As for Joshua vs Povetkin, I really enjoyed it. Povetkin was the much faster man for the first 3 rounds and he had Joshua in all sorts of trouble. I knew it would be a tough fight but I didn't imagine that Povetkin would find it so easy getting on the inside but that was mainly because Joshua wasn't fighting smart by keeping him on the end of the jab. He only started keeping him at range from the 4th round after a b
king from Rob McCracken.Joshua set up his big right hand perfectly by landing a meaningful jab to the body which took Povetkin's hands down. As soon as he had him hurt, that was that. He is a stone cold killer when he has you hurt. But that said, he didn't look great until he had Povetkin hurt and he's clearly very vulnerable, particularly against smaller brawlers.
Wilder vs Joshua could easily be decided by whoever lands first. Joshua is the better all round fighter but Wilder carries more power and absolutely would not let Joshua off the hook if he hurts him.
It's a great time to be a boxing fan with two big hitting heavies working their way towards one another who are both very vulnerable.
Robatr0n said:
TobyTR said:
If the Wilder/Fury fight is close and goes to the judges, Wilder will get the nod... Even if most will have it 115-113/116-112/117-111 to Fury
Fury will need to KO Wilder to win, imo. Can't see it happening
People said the same about the Klitschko fight yet he still got the nod. You never know. It's all down to what happens on the day but you're right in so much as close rounds will get awarded to Wilder.Fury will need to KO Wilder to win, imo. Can't see it happening
Back to Saturday night, I thought Campbell did really well given how much pressure Mendy was applying in the first 3 rounds but he found his range nicely and didn't let him work after that. I had Campbell winning it 8-4 so had to laugh when team Mendy were jumping around as though they had won and genuinely felt they were robbed. He was game and aggressive but the aggression was completely ineffective.
As for Joshua vs Povetkin, I really enjoyed it. Povetkin was the much faster man for the first 3 rounds and he had Joshua in all sorts of trouble. I knew it would be a tough fight but I didn't imagine that Povetkin would find it so easy getting on the inside but that was mainly because Joshua wasn't fighting smart by keeping him on the end of the jab. He only started keeping him at range from the 4th round after a b
king from Rob McCracken.Joshua set up his big right hand perfectly by landing a meaningful jab to the body which took Povetkin's hands down. As soon as he had him hurt, that was that. He is a stone cold killer when he has you hurt. But that said, he didn't look great until he had Povetkin hurt and he's clearly very vulnerable, particularly against smaller brawlers.
Wilder vs Joshua could easily be decided by whoever lands first. Joshua is the better all round fighter but Wilder carries more power and absolutely would not let Joshua off the hook if he hurts him.
It's a great time to be a boxing fan with two big hitting heavies working their way towards one another who are both very vulnerable.
I'm not sure if Wilder carries more power than AJ. Has anyone faced them both?
Fittster said:
Considering AJ has KO'ed both Povetkin and whyte, something no one else has been able to do, I don't see him as particularly vulnerable to smaller, brawlers. Which current HW has a better track record against that style?
I'm not sure if Wilder carries more power than AJ. Has anyone faced them both?
Eric Molina is the only one that I can think of. AJ took him down in 3, Wilder in 9 after Molina rocked him in the 3rd.I'm not sure if Wilder carries more power than AJ. Has anyone faced them both?
272BHP said:
Apparently French media are reporting the Campbell v Mendy fight as the scandal of the year.
They all had Mendy winning easily and said that the Wembley crowd booed the result.
Not the fight I watched, how did you guys see it?
Well they are fThey all had Mendy winning easily and said that the Wembley crowd booed the result.
Not the fight I watched, how did you guys see it?
king idiots. Campbell eased his way in, Mendy was on the front foot but didn't produce anything of not while Cambell was 'sticking and moving' as the saying goes (or went, I've long not known what goes on in boxing!).Gassing Station | Sports | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff