The Running Thread Vol 2
Discussion
John2443 - if you get no luck with cardiologist and you're still struggling after some time it may be worth trying liposomal glutathione. A very recent (and I mean VERY recent..... End of Jan this year!) research paper found low levels of endogenous glutathione in those with long term symptoms and/or severe symptoms with covid. It's not a cheap supplement but it's got to be worth a shot. Let me know if you do decide to give it a go I may be able to get you a discount but can't promise. Amazon may be cheaper, just let me know. If I was completely out of ideas and at a lost cause it's got to be worth a shot. The issue is if there's permanent damage there (glutathione won't help) or if it's a case of taking ages to heal (glutathione would help). I supplement with it all through the winter and then about 1/3 of the amount the rest of the year.
66 vitamin D is still pretty low but not horrific. Definitely could benefit from being higher so we'll done for getting some supplements for that. Magnesium citrate can help too.
Josh - nothing to worry about if that's the norm for you. In my peak I've had a resting HR of 35. It tends to fluctuate between 36 and 41 these days unless I'm really exhausted or ill (I say that, I don't think I've been ill for about 4-5 years now...... Now I've jinxed myself
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66 vitamin D is still pretty low but not horrific. Definitely could benefit from being higher so we'll done for getting some supplements for that. Magnesium citrate can help too.
Josh - nothing to worry about if that's the norm for you. In my peak I've had a resting HR of 35. It tends to fluctuate between 36 and 41 these days unless I'm really exhausted or ill (I say that, I don't think I've been ill for about 4-5 years now...... Now I've jinxed myself
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How's everyone doing? I'm off work today (in tomorrow) and plan to do a short session to get the legs turning over again. Just a warm up, 2x1 mile off 90secs rest at circa 5km pace, 3mins rest and then 2x200m at what would probably be a max 2min effort off 30-40secs rest.
Weather is nice outside, if a little breezy.
I also treated myself to a Stryd power meter, so that should be interesting. I only used it for the first time on my easy run on Wednesday. I've been using a power meter for cycling for 5 years or more now, so I realise it is going to take some time to get some meaningful data from it but I think once I am training a bit more it should prove a very handy tool. I appreciate it's not going to be as accurate as a cycling power meter, but it takes wind and hills into account and considering most of my running is on tarmac (it won't be as accurate on muddy trails!) it should be good. I don't care about the accuracy of the actual numbers per se, but just they they are consistent across a range of circumstances, and online tests/reviews seem to indicate that as being true.
Weather is nice outside, if a little breezy.
I also treated myself to a Stryd power meter, so that should be interesting. I only used it for the first time on my easy run on Wednesday. I've been using a power meter for cycling for 5 years or more now, so I realise it is going to take some time to get some meaningful data from it but I think once I am training a bit more it should prove a very handy tool. I appreciate it's not going to be as accurate as a cycling power meter, but it takes wind and hills into account and considering most of my running is on tarmac (it won't be as accurate on muddy trails!) it should be good. I don't care about the accuracy of the actual numbers per se, but just they they are consistent across a range of circumstances, and online tests/reviews seem to indicate that as being true.
Quite a frustrating week: winter temps are back, there's no sun; keeping my distance down as a recovery week following biggest ever month in Feb; and Hoka haven't released the new Arahi 5s I'm after. Looking forward to sunshine, pushing on with marathon training schedule, and new shoes!
Carrying on. Training has plateaued a bit - no days off is definitely not the way to get quick. Sitting at or or around tempo is comfortable, but anything long or quick really puts a dent in the legs as they never fully recover. 37 more runs to go - I think I would do the 100 in a row again, but maybe starting in November/December so that it doesn't get in the way of cycling and also gives a springboard into proper training.
Saying that, have PBs in the bag for 5K and 10K so far this year, so "just running" seems to be working - sat on 430km for the year, so on target for 2000ish.
Got a 120km ride planned tomorrow, so ticking off another 5km running is very low down my list of things to do, but hey ho.
Saying that, have PBs in the bag for 5K and 10K so far this year, so "just running" seems to be working - sat on 430km for the year, so on target for 2000ish.
Got a 120km ride planned tomorrow, so ticking off another 5km running is very low down my list of things to do, but hey ho.
Well that went a little better than expected to be honest. It was really breezy so wasn't expecting much, especially since it's 6 weeks exactly since I've done any sort of speed work so, as above, only 2x1 mile off 90secs and then 2x200m off 40secs, first mile was 5:58 and second was 5:53. Both 200s were 35. Finished it was with a moderate 45mins on the bike too.
Definitely feel I've lost a bit of sharpness but considering I've only been back running for a week after a 5 week lay off I'm dead chuffed with that. I had planned on starting my training from 4 weeks back before injury (so next session would be 2x1.5 miles + 200s, then the one after 2x2 miles....) but I've decided to bring that to 3 weeks so I'll just do the 2x2 miles next week.
Was interesting using the power meter too and looking into the effect the wind had, as well as the slight incline on my loop. I think it should prove a very useful tool when I do get back to racing again.
I plan to try and get a solid 4 weeks of training in, then a recovery week and maybe give a 5km TT a shot to give me a benchmark for both looking forwards for improvement as well as some meaningful power zones to train towards.
Definitely feel I've lost a bit of sharpness but considering I've only been back running for a week after a 5 week lay off I'm dead chuffed with that. I had planned on starting my training from 4 weeks back before injury (so next session would be 2x1.5 miles + 200s, then the one after 2x2 miles....) but I've decided to bring that to 3 weeks so I'll just do the 2x2 miles next week.
Was interesting using the power meter too and looking into the effect the wind had, as well as the slight incline on my loop. I think it should prove a very useful tool when I do get back to racing again.
I plan to try and get a solid 4 weeks of training in, then a recovery week and maybe give a 5km TT a shot to give me a benchmark for both looking forwards for improvement as well as some meaningful power zones to train towards.
Taking my 2nd complete rest day of the year today, no bike and no run seems odd but I am sure my legs will thank me for it!
Did a 6x 1km workout yesterday early eve on a rolling course hit 3.55, 3.56, 4.04, 4.10, 4.11, 4.04. The first 2 were pretty much all downhill the rest gently rolling road pretty happy. On the flat I would like to think I would be able to get 4.04 consistently for all 6.
45 mins off road tomorrow with the dog and then 90mins easy + 30mins hm pace on Sunday.
Did a 6x 1km workout yesterday early eve on a rolling course hit 3.55, 3.56, 4.04, 4.10, 4.11, 4.04. The first 2 were pretty much all downhill the rest gently rolling road pretty happy. On the flat I would like to think I would be able to get 4.04 consistently for all 6.
45 mins off road tomorrow with the dog and then 90mins easy + 30mins hm pace on Sunday.
I use the Garmin footpod which also has an app for 'running power' - not sure on the accuracy, but when used consistently at least it gives a relative power measure between all my runs so i can use it as a guide.
I mainly got it for the running balance (and other dynaminc data) - been struggling with my running form, which goes to pot when i am tired, so tend to use the data to gauge how balanced i am when running - and can see when it goes bad as a run progresses.
Run 124 today - i started back at beginning of november (lockdown 2.0) as part of a virtual challenge with my running club, but I sort of got carried away and have just carried on running daily. My 'rest days' I tend to just do a couple of K and a very easy pace.
On an easy week this week following a bigger distance week last week (50+km which is new territory for me), but that was really only done to bag 100 miles for the month of Feb. I have the Great North run to look forward to in September, and the VLM in Oct, so proper training regime is still a little way off from starting for me.
And if the weather continues to improve, i'll be back out on my bikes again soon enough too
I mainly got it for the running balance (and other dynaminc data) - been struggling with my running form, which goes to pot when i am tired, so tend to use the data to gauge how balanced i am when running - and can see when it goes bad as a run progresses.
Run 124 today - i started back at beginning of november (lockdown 2.0) as part of a virtual challenge with my running club, but I sort of got carried away and have just carried on running daily. My 'rest days' I tend to just do a couple of K and a very easy pace.
On an easy week this week following a bigger distance week last week (50+km which is new territory for me), but that was really only done to bag 100 miles for the month of Feb. I have the Great North run to look forward to in September, and the VLM in Oct, so proper training regime is still a little way off from starting for me.
And if the weather continues to improve, i'll be back out on my bikes again soon enough too
Can someone recommend a very good lightweight running t-shirt as well as a vest? Currently using these t-shirts
https://www.wiggle.co.uk/dhb-aeron-short-sleeve-ru...
I have 2 of them and they are really good and very lightweight..... I'd be tempted to buy a 3rd but I guess I just fancy something different! Price preferably under £30 and not TOO fussed on brands, as long as the product is good.
Many thanks!
Have also made the decision that because I seem pretty injury prone where I'm relatively "new" to running (ignoring myself from way back when) I have decided to stop the 200s at the ends of sessions for the time being. We almost exclusively did them at the end of every hard session in my old group to work on speed, but I think it's the 200s that are hurting me so I think I will continue with the progression on my "around lactate threshold or just above" work for the time being but instead of doing 2-4x200m at the end I will just do something like a 5-600m effort so it'll still be a bit quicker than the longer reps I have been doing but obviously nowhere near as fast as the 200s. Plan is to try to get 4 weeks consistent training in, recovery week, then a 5km TT, I'd like to do a 10km TT but in reality I think to do myself justice I need 3+ months of consistent training.
Will see how things go!
https://www.wiggle.co.uk/dhb-aeron-short-sleeve-ru...
I have 2 of them and they are really good and very lightweight..... I'd be tempted to buy a 3rd but I guess I just fancy something different! Price preferably under £30 and not TOO fussed on brands, as long as the product is good.
Many thanks!
Have also made the decision that because I seem pretty injury prone where I'm relatively "new" to running (ignoring myself from way back when) I have decided to stop the 200s at the ends of sessions for the time being. We almost exclusively did them at the end of every hard session in my old group to work on speed, but I think it's the 200s that are hurting me so I think I will continue with the progression on my "around lactate threshold or just above" work for the time being but instead of doing 2-4x200m at the end I will just do something like a 5-600m effort so it'll still be a bit quicker than the longer reps I have been doing but obviously nowhere near as fast as the 200s. Plan is to try to get 4 weeks consistent training in, recovery week, then a 5km TT, I'd like to do a 10km TT but in reality I think to do myself justice I need 3+ months of consistent training.
Will see how things go!
Edited by TyrannosauRoss Lex on Friday 5th March 19:45
Anyone ran in the new Nike Invincible yet?
Mine arrived yesterday but don't suit my gait. Have run in the Air Zoom Next % for the last 6 months or so and contrary to many reviews - absolutely love them.
The new Nike Invincible are so soft - it feels like running on sand, really hard work but super soft. I can't get on with them at all as it just gave my pins and needles in both my feet.
Anyone else tried them?
Mine arrived yesterday but don't suit my gait. Have run in the Air Zoom Next % for the last 6 months or so and contrary to many reviews - absolutely love them.
The new Nike Invincible are so soft - it feels like running on sand, really hard work but super soft. I can't get on with them at all as it just gave my pins and needles in both my feet.
Anyone else tried them?
Edited by Candellara on Friday 5th March 19:55
Not under £30 but Castore running tops are incredible. They retain so little moisture compared with other technical running tops. My ‘go to’ tops when it’s raining or I’ve a tough session planned. Literally can’t wring them out at the end of the session, whereas many of my others weigh a tonne when wet.
They have lots of sales so worth a look. I’ve got hundreds of running tops and nothing else comes close in my opinion.
My next favourite top is by Rab. Really light when dry but a lot heavier when soaking wet. Definitely cheaper than Castore and if you don’t sweat much it’s perfect.
They have lots of sales so worth a look. I’ve got hundreds of running tops and nothing else comes close in my opinion.
My next favourite top is by Rab. Really light when dry but a lot heavier when soaking wet. Definitely cheaper than Castore and if you don’t sweat much it’s perfect.
Edited by cslwannabe on Friday 5th March 20:12
Great run today 15.7 miles, plenty of wildlife, birds of prey, cormorant, ducks, sheep, horses and cycliats 
The Reebok float ride 2's have been used so much I use them for pretty much everything such a great shoe for me and one I am using more than all of my other shoes at the moment. The value for money even at full rrp is fantastic!
The Reebok float ride 2's have been used so much I use them for pretty much everything such a great shoe for me and one I am using more than all of my other shoes at the moment. The value for money even at full rrp is fantastic!
joshcowin said:
Great run today 15.7 miles, plenty of wildlife, birds of prey, cormorant, ducks, sheep, horses and cycliats
My legs still feel a little beat up so I skipped a run yesterday and I'm going to do a very short run today (like 2-3 miles short!) and then just do 2 hours on the bike. Should be fine by tomorrow or Tuesday. As said above, I'm going to stop doing those 200m efforts at the end of my sessions for about 8 weeks I should think. Should reduce injury risk whilst I'm getting used to threshold and just over threshold work.
Sounds like you had a great run.
TyrannosauRoss Lex said:
My legs still feel a little beat up so I skipped a run yesterday and I'm going to do a very short run today (like 2-3 miles short!) and then just do 2 hours on the bike. Should be fine by tomorrow or Tuesday. As said above, I'm going to stop doing those 200m efforts at the end of my sessions for about 8 weeks I should think. Should reduce injury risk whilst I'm getting used to threshold and just over threshold work.
Sounds like you had a great run.
Yeah fortunate to have some great runs straight out my door, back in bed with a cuppa now, perfect!!
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