The Running Thread Vol 2
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I have the Peachtree Road Race on Tuesday which is the largest 10k in the world with around 60k starters being set off over 2 hours from about 22 start groups. It's run in Atlanta and my start time is 0730, so it should be a relatively cool 27C when I start with 90%+ humidity.
I'm fortunate to be in the seeded group at the front and will hopefully see Bernard Lagat who is running the elite mens US 10k championships which is part of the same race. Hoping to come top 150 or maybe top 100 if my achilles injury holds up ok. The race is famous for Cardiac hill which is a 1 mile stretch which breaks lots of runners. and it's supposed to be hilly, but really it's a net downhill race with about 200ft of climb
So 27-30C, 90+% humidity, tough hills and the promise of a top 1000 finisher mug (which are very cherished) and no medal unless you buy one in advance. It's one of the best days out in the US and on independence day too... not looking forward to getting up at 0430
I'm fortunate to be in the seeded group at the front and will hopefully see Bernard Lagat who is running the elite mens US 10k championships which is part of the same race. Hoping to come top 150 or maybe top 100 if my achilles injury holds up ok. The race is famous for Cardiac hill which is a 1 mile stretch which breaks lots of runners. and it's supposed to be hilly, but really it's a net downhill race with about 200ft of climb
So 27-30C, 90+% humidity, tough hills and the promise of a top 1000 finisher mug (which are very cherished) and no medal unless you buy one in advance. It's one of the best days out in the US and on independence day too... not looking forward to getting up at 0430
The jiffle king said:
So 27-30C, 90+% humidity, tough hills and the promise of a top 1000 finisher mug (which are very cherished) and no medal unless you buy one in advance. It's one of the best days out in the US and on independence day too... not looking forward to getting up at 0430
Out of interest, what's the entrance cost of a race like that and what's typical for 5k, 10, half marathon etc in the States?Cybertronian said:
Out of interest, what's the entrance cost of a race like that and what's typical for 5k, 10, half marathon etc in the States?
5k - $20 - $30 with occasional ones at $4510k -$25 - $40
half - $40 - $70
Full $50+
That does not tell the full story though as you always get a race t-shirt which is usually technical, a full goody bag with stuff you can use, vouchers for local stores e.g. $20 off is you spend $50. At the finish there will always be lots of free water bottles, powerade and tonnes of food
The race also has to pay insurance and for police and they really do close the roads and sort the race out really well.
I did a 5k earlier this year which had a hooded fleece lined top as the giveaway and it was $45 for the race and I would have paid that just for the top.
Peachtree which is tomorrow I think was $36 this year. There are also only 4 park run events so far so most 5k's are charity events
So the Peachtree Roadrace 2017.
Up at 0430 to get the MARTA (train) to the start. Bernard Lagat on the start line, Independence day anthem and then a flypast to start the race. It's 10k, but the first mile is flat and then downhill for 1.5 miles, then uphill for 2 and then downhill for the last part. 27C when we started, 29C at the end with not a cloud in the sky and 90% humidity.
I was fortunate to be in the seeded group with 25 other start waves behind and a race plan for 36-37 minutes. Went nicely through halfway in 17:35 which would be a PB (PR if you are here in the US) if it was a 5k race and then the hills started. It was brutal out there with the humidity and I finished in 36:39 for 151st place and 6th in my age group. Veryhappy with that and a flatter cooler 10k would have me beating my PB...... if only the weather here would cool down
Now the tough part. The people in wave Y started at 9:15 and it was 30C by then and those in-between were really affected by the heat. Saw a couple of people collapsed through heat related issues but the race had a RED alert which it does most years meaning slow down and drink fluids.
Goody bag, ice filled towels, peachtree T-shirt, food bag from Whole foods, powerade, water, peaches (this is the Peachtree in the Peach state), beer if you wanted it, but at 0815 it felt a little early and a few other things
And the winner did 28:16... with Lagat around 28:4x at age 42
and the female winner was 32:xx
An amazing day out, and well worth a visit for any Brits wanting the taste of a race with an American tradition
Up at 0430 to get the MARTA (train) to the start. Bernard Lagat on the start line, Independence day anthem and then a flypast to start the race. It's 10k, but the first mile is flat and then downhill for 1.5 miles, then uphill for 2 and then downhill for the last part. 27C when we started, 29C at the end with not a cloud in the sky and 90% humidity.
I was fortunate to be in the seeded group with 25 other start waves behind and a race plan for 36-37 minutes. Went nicely through halfway in 17:35 which would be a PB (PR if you are here in the US) if it was a 5k race and then the hills started. It was brutal out there with the humidity and I finished in 36:39 for 151st place and 6th in my age group. Veryhappy with that and a flatter cooler 10k would have me beating my PB...... if only the weather here would cool down
Now the tough part. The people in wave Y started at 9:15 and it was 30C by then and those in-between were really affected by the heat. Saw a couple of people collapsed through heat related issues but the race had a RED alert which it does most years meaning slow down and drink fluids.
Goody bag, ice filled towels, peachtree T-shirt, food bag from Whole foods, powerade, water, peaches (this is the Peachtree in the Peach state), beer if you wanted it, but at 0815 it felt a little early and a few other things
And the winner did 28:16... with Lagat around 28:4x at age 42
and the female winner was 32:xxAn amazing day out, and well worth a visit for any Brits wanting the taste of a race with an American tradition
I have a silly idea...
The Cotswold 24hr Race is in two weeks' time. I was planning to work towards it next year, but I've just found out my wife and 2 year old are going to be away that whole weekend, so I unexpectedly have an entire weekend and nothing to do.
I've eased off heavily in the past few months but could go and run a one hour 10k tomorrow without too much bother. My furthest ever distance is 15 (extremely hilly) miles in one hit back in April.
So I have the time, I have the funds, I have all the kit required anyway (tent, multiple shoes and kit, running light etc), is there any real risk to doing it if not fully prepared?
As it's multiple 9k laps I'm struggling to think of any downsides, as I'm never far from a rest or being able to quit. I have never ran multiple races in quick succession, but even if I struggled to run more than a few laps with rests in between in say, the first 12 hours, I figure I could at the very least walk a good few laps. I have no real aim or target, just see how far I could go without pushing myself too much as a nice benchmark for 2018.
The Cotswold 24hr Race is in two weeks' time. I was planning to work towards it next year, but I've just found out my wife and 2 year old are going to be away that whole weekend, so I unexpectedly have an entire weekend and nothing to do.
I've eased off heavily in the past few months but could go and run a one hour 10k tomorrow without too much bother. My furthest ever distance is 15 (extremely hilly) miles in one hit back in April.
So I have the time, I have the funds, I have all the kit required anyway (tent, multiple shoes and kit, running light etc), is there any real risk to doing it if not fully prepared?
As it's multiple 9k laps I'm struggling to think of any downsides, as I'm never far from a rest or being able to quit. I have never ran multiple races in quick succession, but even if I struggled to run more than a few laps with rests in between in say, the first 12 hours, I figure I could at the very least walk a good few laps. I have no real aim or target, just see how far I could go without pushing myself too much as a nice benchmark for 2018.
Good luck if you do decide to do it!
I've no experience, either, of racing or really even running multiple times a day bar the very odd easy paced double day in the past.
A friend of mine who belonged to a small Thunder Run team 2 years ago trained by covering 3 x 10k runs with a couple of hours between them. He found the first two runs no problem, but regularly found the third run miserable to complete, both physically and mentally.
I've no experience, either, of racing or really even running multiple times a day bar the very odd easy paced double day in the past.
A friend of mine who belonged to a small Thunder Run team 2 years ago trained by covering 3 x 10k runs with a couple of hours between them. He found the first two runs no problem, but regularly found the third run miserable to complete, both physically and mentally.
ukaskew said:
I have a silly idea...
The Cotswold 24hr Race is in two weeks' time. I was planning to work towards it next year, but I've just found out my wife and 2 year old are going to be away that whole weekend, so I unexpectedly have an entire weekend and nothing to do.
I've eased off heavily in the past few months but could go and run a one hour 10k tomorrow without too much bother. My furthest ever distance is 15 (extremely hilly) miles in one hit back in April.
So I have the time, I have the funds, I have all the kit required anyway (tent, multiple shoes and kit, running light etc), is there any real risk to doing it if not fully prepared?
As it's multiple 9k laps I'm struggling to think of any downsides, as I'm never far from a rest or being able to quit. I have never ran multiple races in quick succession, but even if I struggled to run more than a few laps with rests in between in say, the first 12 hours, I figure I could at the very least walk a good few laps. I have no real aim or target, just see how far I could go without pushing myself too much as a nice benchmark for 2018.
From a running/injury perspective, if you take your time and listen to your body - and give yourself plenty of recovery time in the weeks after - then I don't see any reason not to.The Cotswold 24hr Race is in two weeks' time. I was planning to work towards it next year, but I've just found out my wife and 2 year old are going to be away that whole weekend, so I unexpectedly have an entire weekend and nothing to do.
I've eased off heavily in the past few months but could go and run a one hour 10k tomorrow without too much bother. My furthest ever distance is 15 (extremely hilly) miles in one hit back in April.
So I have the time, I have the funds, I have all the kit required anyway (tent, multiple shoes and kit, running light etc), is there any real risk to doing it if not fully prepared?
As it's multiple 9k laps I'm struggling to think of any downsides, as I'm never far from a rest or being able to quit. I have never ran multiple races in quick succession, but even if I struggled to run more than a few laps with rests in between in say, the first 12 hours, I figure I could at the very least walk a good few laps. I have no real aim or target, just see how far I could go without pushing myself too much as a nice benchmark for 2018.
I'd have two reservations on other grounds:
1. 24 hour events have always struck me as 'people' focused running - I'd either want a team, a crew (even if it's just the wife and kids) for company, and to make a weekend of it.
2. The photo's look pretty uninspiring. It may be unfair but it looks like you're paying £80 (plus parking fees) to run around a non-descript field.
But that's just me and my tastes. Given a free weekend, and no impact on training it'd be the Scafell Sky Race that got my money for that weekend. That looks like fun.
ETA: It's the weekend before. Whoops.
Edited by tenohfive on Monday 10th July 17:03
Last sat i did my 1st ultra - 30 miles.
Training wise m longest run was 24 miles / 2800ft elevation 3 weeks before the event , i did back to back runs plus another 10-12 miler on thursdays.
My target for the ultra was 6 hours , that's based on me doing the 24 mile training run in 4.18 and surely another 10 wouldn't take 2 hours ?
Well it did , 6.14 to be exact , i'm quite pleased because its my 1st and i finished but bloody 14mins off my target.
Every time we stopped at feed stations i found it a bit harder to get going and more annoyingly in training i was eating oreos every mile and a gel every 5 miles , during the race i didn't eat any gels/biscuits i just carried them around for 30 miles .
Also the route was about 50/50 road and woodland trail/ fields so i wore my road shoes with orthotics which worked well on road but the fields were a bit sketchy as my orthotics cranked my ankle over.
Anyway next ultra is in august 34 miles , 4400ft elevation Exeter - Torquay
Training wise m longest run was 24 miles / 2800ft elevation 3 weeks before the event , i did back to back runs plus another 10-12 miler on thursdays.
My target for the ultra was 6 hours , that's based on me doing the 24 mile training run in 4.18 and surely another 10 wouldn't take 2 hours ?
Well it did , 6.14 to be exact , i'm quite pleased because its my 1st and i finished but bloody 14mins off my target.
Every time we stopped at feed stations i found it a bit harder to get going and more annoyingly in training i was eating oreos every mile and a gel every 5 miles , during the race i didn't eat any gels/biscuits i just carried them around for 30 miles .
Also the route was about 50/50 road and woodland trail/ fields so i wore my road shoes with orthotics which worked well on road but the fields were a bit sketchy as my orthotics cranked my ankle over.
Anyway next ultra is in august 34 miles , 4400ft elevation Exeter - Torquay
Good work.
Nutrition I think is one of the dark art of ultras, especially ones that take longer to finish. It can be really hard work forcing down calories that your body has zero interest in taking - especially when it's hot. I'm still getting there with my fueling and my next chance to test will be during my years focus race, but a mix of real food, the odd gel and some hydration based options (Tailwind works for me) in the vest for 8 hours onwards as 'just in case,' calories is my plan. Along with taking time at aid stations to gorge on free food if the offerings are any good - mindset thing, but despite not having an appetite if I tell myself I'm stopping, taking a couple of minutes out and having a proper feed I can get a lot of food down.
Nutrition I think is one of the dark art of ultras, especially ones that take longer to finish. It can be really hard work forcing down calories that your body has zero interest in taking - especially when it's hot. I'm still getting there with my fueling and my next chance to test will be during my years focus race, but a mix of real food, the odd gel and some hydration based options (Tailwind works for me) in the vest for 8 hours onwards as 'just in case,' calories is my plan. Along with taking time at aid stations to gorge on free food if the offerings are any good - mindset thing, but despite not having an appetite if I tell myself I'm stopping, taking a couple of minutes out and having a proper feed I can get a lot of food down.
tenohfive said:
1. 24 hour events have always struck me as 'people' focused running - I'd either want a team, a crew (even if it's just the wife and kids) for company, and to make a weekend of it.
I'm not too concerned by this, in fact it's one of the reasons I want to do it. I've always been a solitary runner and perfectly happy with that, it's my alone time, my escape and the idea of running clubs etc is the opposite of everything I want from it. Forcing myself to get out of the tent at 4am or whatever and get back out there with no external assistance is precisely why I want to do it, just to see if I can.
tenohfive said:
Good work.
Nutrition I think is one of the dark art of ultras, especially ones that take longer to finish. It can be really hard work forcing down calories that your body has zero interest in taking - especially when it's hot. I'm still getting there with my fueling and my next chance to test will be during my years focus race, but a mix of real food, the odd gel and some hydration based options (Tailwind works for me) in the vest for 8 hours onwards as 'just in case,' calories is my plan. Along with taking time at aid stations to gorge on free food if the offerings are any good - mindset thing, but despite not having an appetite if I tell myself I'm stopping, taking a couple of minutes out and having a proper feed I can get a lot of food down.
Food was pretty good , wraps , sausage rolls, crisps , sweets , melon , cakes.Nutrition I think is one of the dark art of ultras, especially ones that take longer to finish. It can be really hard work forcing down calories that your body has zero interest in taking - especially when it's hot. I'm still getting there with my fueling and my next chance to test will be during my years focus race, but a mix of real food, the odd gel and some hydration based options (Tailwind works for me) in the vest for 8 hours onwards as 'just in case,' calories is my plan. Along with taking time at aid stations to gorge on free food if the offerings are any good - mindset thing, but despite not having an appetite if I tell myself I'm stopping, taking a couple of minutes out and having a proper feed I can get a lot of food down.
The 1st stop i was in like a buffet but ate less at each stop afterwards.
My foot and knee are finally fully healed so I've started back with consistent training. Last week I ran steady 10k's every other day so 40k in the week. this week I'm aiming for 3 15k runs every other day. For now I'm focusing on getting the K's in my legs. It's getting hard thought as its getting dark early here in Melbourne.
dave0010 said:
My foot and knee are finally fully healed so I've started back with consistent training. Last week I ran steady 10k's every other day so 40k in the week. this week I'm aiming for 3 15k runs every other day. For now I'm focusing on getting the K's in my legs. It's getting hard thought as its getting dark early here in Melbourne.
Any particular reason you're aiming for set distance every other day runs? When I've been recovering from injury before my approach was to have a weekly long, slow run and slowly but steadily increase the distance on that run, whilst keeping my other runs shorter with varied intensity. And I'd compromise or sacrifice the shorter distance runs to try and keep the quality in the long run if I've had to.I'm a firm believer in the importance of a weekly long, zone 2 run both for general muscle conditioning, aerobic performance and backup systems (like muscle glycogen replacement etc.) I also really enjoy it, but knowing there's a lot of science behind the benefits is the main reason I consider that my 'key' run of the week.
Not that I'm suggesting you should suddenly jump up distance in the long run; I'm just suggesting that having a long run and increasing the mileage on that run will be of more benefit than an overall weekly totting up increase. And then only if it fits with lifestyle etc - life had a tendency to get in the way of running for most of us
egor110 said:
tenohfive said:
Good work.
Nutrition I think is one of the dark art of ultras, especially ones that take longer to finish. It can be really hard work forcing down calories that your body has zero interest in taking - especially when it's hot. I'm still getting there with my fueling and my next chance to test will be during my years focus race, but a mix of real food, the odd gel and some hydration based options (Tailwind works for me) in the vest for 8 hours onwards as 'just in case,' calories is my plan. Along with taking time at aid stations to gorge on free food if the offerings are any good - mindset thing, but despite not having an appetite if I tell myself I'm stopping, taking a couple of minutes out and having a proper feed I can get a lot of food down.
Food was pretty good , wraps , sausage rolls, crisps , sweets , melon , cakes.Nutrition I think is one of the dark art of ultras, especially ones that take longer to finish. It can be really hard work forcing down calories that your body has zero interest in taking - especially when it's hot. I'm still getting there with my fueling and my next chance to test will be during my years focus race, but a mix of real food, the odd gel and some hydration based options (Tailwind works for me) in the vest for 8 hours onwards as 'just in case,' calories is my plan. Along with taking time at aid stations to gorge on free food if the offerings are any good - mindset thing, but despite not having an appetite if I tell myself I'm stopping, taking a couple of minutes out and having a proper feed I can get a lot of food down.
The 1st stop i was in like a buffet but ate less at each stop afterwards.
I did Race to the King 3 weeks ago (54 miles in 10:08) and survived on nothing but coke, water, sweets, watermelon and a small piece of flapjack).
Have Race to the Stones tomorrow and I have decided not to bother carrying around food I know I won't eat. Instead I'll rely on the stuff they provide. It's usually only 6 to 8 miles between checkpoints so you never have to go far before being able to get something.
Have to avoid the error I made last time of taking in too much coke at one of the later checkpoints and feeling like I was going to vomit for the next half mile.
tenohfive said:
Any particular reason you're aiming for set distance every other day runs? When I've been recovering from injury before my approach was to have a weekly long, slow run and slowly but steadily increase the distance on that run, whilst keeping my other runs shorter with varied intensity. And I'd compromise or sacrifice the shorter distance runs to try and keep the quality in the long run if I've had to.
I'm a firm believer in the importance of a weekly long, zone 2 run both for general muscle conditioning, aerobic performance and backup systems (like muscle glycogen replacement etc.) I also really enjoy it, but knowing there's a lot of science behind the benefits is the main reason I consider that my 'key' run of the week.
Not that I'm suggesting you should suddenly jump up distance in the long run; I'm just suggesting that having a long run and increasing the mileage on that run will be of more benefit than an overall weekly totting up increase. And then only if it fits with lifestyle etc - life had a tendency to get in the way of running for most of us
For me it's just about struggling to find time to get out an run. I've not long started a new job and we're also finalising our wedding plans. I'm just trying to keep my body used to the K's. This weekend my work schedule is a bit lighter so hopefully I can get a long run in on the weekend.I'm a firm believer in the importance of a weekly long, zone 2 run both for general muscle conditioning, aerobic performance and backup systems (like muscle glycogen replacement etc.) I also really enjoy it, but knowing there's a lot of science behind the benefits is the main reason I consider that my 'key' run of the week.
Not that I'm suggesting you should suddenly jump up distance in the long run; I'm just suggesting that having a long run and increasing the mileage on that run will be of more benefit than an overall weekly totting up increase. And then only if it fits with lifestyle etc - life had a tendency to get in the way of running for most of us
I was lucky enough to be offered an entry to the WUU2K which took place yesterday. A friend had entered but a back injury meant that he couldn't compete.
WUU2K stands for Wellington Urban Ultra 2000 m of vertical ascent. The race has 2 distances, 62 km and marathon.. I was on the 42km event - and yes that is the one with the 2000 m of vertical. Oh and the event is all off road in the hills around NZ's capital city.
As I hadn't planned to do the event I hadn't really trained for it, but my base at the moment is 40 to 60 km a week, much of it off road. I had time to taper though - that was pleasant.
The run up to the event included some big storms, lots of rain and 150 km/h winds - so lots of mud on the trails, a few slips and heaps of branches on the ground.
The day started before sunrise in the suburb of Khandalla and straight up the hill to the top of Mt Kaukau and then 12km along the the ridge for the first road crossing and aid station at Makara road. From there a short sharp single track climb in the mountain bike park to Makara peak. Easy down on a 4WD track and then back onto single track into the second aid station. I was keeping fueled on Hammer space man food, so I was able to ignore the food on the table, just topping up with liquid. I was still feeling pretty good at this point and had been running with the same group of 6 guys for the last hour.
The next section was another single track up Wrights hill where I met a mate who had offered to run with me for the second half. I caught him by surprise by arriving 25 minutes early, fortunately he just had to tie his shoe laces and dropped in behind me until we got onto the 4WD track around the wildlife sanctuary. Another descent and climb got us to the 3rd aid station at the wellington windmill.. more isotonic and back onto the single track and up hill to the top of the 'tip track'. By this time the day was warming up and I was able to shed the second top layer and complete the event in a singlet. Winter in Wellington isn't that bad really!
Big rocky descent down to Owhiro road, it is always tempting to stretch out here, but the rocks and clay make it a risky strategy.
The final aid station was just after the road crossing, more liquid. No feed needed as the Hammer soup was still doing its thing.
The climb up the other side to Tawatawa reserve was tough and the distance was beginning to show a bit, but I was able to pick things up on the muddy slippy way down the other side into Island Bay... the climb up Mt Albert on the other side however was a complete grind, and the muddy wet descent to the top of the Zoo had to be treated with a great deal of caution.. thank goodness for the knobbly Inov8s. From there a short dash across a playing field and down before climbing over the last bump before crossing the road for the final climb up Mt Victoria. There is an easy way up the road, but no, too simple for the organisers, lots of single track zig zags and extra climbs. At this stage I was pretty well worn out but had an eye on the watch and aiming for a sub 5 hour finish. Push push and across the line in 4:59. 42 km covered off road and my GPS says 1850 m climbed. Final results aren't out yet, but I think I was about 12th overall (out of 100) and 4th in the 40 - 59 category (I'm mid 50s..)
Great event, very friendly, excellent tracks and fantastic views.. consider it if you are even in Wellington at the right time.. You could be braver than me and do the 62 km event
WUU2K stands for Wellington Urban Ultra 2000 m of vertical ascent. The race has 2 distances, 62 km and marathon.. I was on the 42km event - and yes that is the one with the 2000 m of vertical. Oh and the event is all off road in the hills around NZ's capital city.
As I hadn't planned to do the event I hadn't really trained for it, but my base at the moment is 40 to 60 km a week, much of it off road. I had time to taper though - that was pleasant.
The run up to the event included some big storms, lots of rain and 150 km/h winds - so lots of mud on the trails, a few slips and heaps of branches on the ground.
The day started before sunrise in the suburb of Khandalla and straight up the hill to the top of Mt Kaukau and then 12km along the the ridge for the first road crossing and aid station at Makara road. From there a short sharp single track climb in the mountain bike park to Makara peak. Easy down on a 4WD track and then back onto single track into the second aid station. I was keeping fueled on Hammer space man food, so I was able to ignore the food on the table, just topping up with liquid. I was still feeling pretty good at this point and had been running with the same group of 6 guys for the last hour.
The next section was another single track up Wrights hill where I met a mate who had offered to run with me for the second half. I caught him by surprise by arriving 25 minutes early, fortunately he just had to tie his shoe laces and dropped in behind me until we got onto the 4WD track around the wildlife sanctuary. Another descent and climb got us to the 3rd aid station at the wellington windmill.. more isotonic and back onto the single track and up hill to the top of the 'tip track'. By this time the day was warming up and I was able to shed the second top layer and complete the event in a singlet. Winter in Wellington isn't that bad really!
Big rocky descent down to Owhiro road, it is always tempting to stretch out here, but the rocks and clay make it a risky strategy.
The final aid station was just after the road crossing, more liquid. No feed needed as the Hammer soup was still doing its thing.
The climb up the other side to Tawatawa reserve was tough and the distance was beginning to show a bit, but I was able to pick things up on the muddy slippy way down the other side into Island Bay... the climb up Mt Albert on the other side however was a complete grind, and the muddy wet descent to the top of the Zoo had to be treated with a great deal of caution.. thank goodness for the knobbly Inov8s. From there a short dash across a playing field and down before climbing over the last bump before crossing the road for the final climb up Mt Victoria. There is an easy way up the road, but no, too simple for the organisers, lots of single track zig zags and extra climbs. At this stage I was pretty well worn out but had an eye on the watch and aiming for a sub 5 hour finish. Push push and across the line in 4:59. 42 km covered off road and my GPS says 1850 m climbed. Final results aren't out yet, but I think I was about 12th overall (out of 100) and 4th in the 40 - 59 category (I'm mid 50s..)
Great event, very friendly, excellent tracks and fantastic views.. consider it if you are even in Wellington at the right time.. You could be braver than me and do the 62 km event
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