The Running Thread Vol 2

[RB Will]

Finally getting back running after 3 months off following massively rearranging my ankle
been out 3 times in the last week slowly increasing distance, feels fine so far and I have gone to 2.5 miles. Need to get myself up to 10 by mid Jan!

Just thought I would share what another chap has done though. I compete in canicross events (cross country with your dog ideally aiding you, though mine is a bit of a slacker as I'm less than 1 min quicker over 10k with her than without). Another guy who has been off representing Britain in the world championships has recently smashed out a 12.24 at a parkrun! He had to contact Parkrun as their system registered him at 13.00. They said that is the lowest their system will go as it counts anything lower as a foul as its not possible
12.24 is smashing the non assisted 5k world record by over 10 sec. I think he should let Mo Farah have a go with his dog and see if he can break into the 11s!

[AbzST64]

bigandclever said:

Smitters said:

I like the soft-flasks on the front. They are a bd to get back into the pockets though. I'm yet to perfect the technique without using naughty words.

Partial fill, ram them in, shake the vest like a lunatic, and then top up works for me.

The new Salomon flasks have a hard oval bottom to them so they slip in with not much effort...!

[Smitters]

AbzST64 said:

The new Salomon flasks have a hard oval bottom to them so they slip in with not much effort...!

I need to chat to a shop as I can see a few soft flask makers now and want to know what'll fit in my vest. One of mine sprung a leak which is annoying, so I do need a new one.

[tenohfive]

Smitters said:

I need to chat to a shop as I can see a few soft flask makers now and want to know what'll fit in my vest. One of mine sprung a leak which is annoying, so I do need a new one.

To the best of my knowledge if your vest is Salomon, you're pretty much stuck with Salomon. Salomon and UD are the two main ones and UD bottles are too wide. But with the design of the new bottles I really don't think it's a bad thing to be stuck with them.

[VEA]

I believe these are widley regarded to be the best on the market. Lots of the own brand ones are just rebranded HydraPak

https://hydrapak.com/shop/softflasks/

[Smitters]

tenohfive said:

To the best of my knowledge if your vest is Salomon, you're pretty much stuck with Salomon. Salomon and UD are the two main ones and UD bottles are too wide. But with the design of the new bottles I really don't think it's a bad thing to be stuck with them.

I thought that may be the case. That's annoying. Though the 600ml ones linked above with 100ml missing ought to squish in - they are soft after all! I just object to the price of the Salomon bottles when you want a speed straw too. £60 for two bottles is ridiculous.

[tenohfive]

Indeed, I'm both flavours of Salomon and the UD flasks I own are made by Hydrapak. Not that they're any cheaper buying direct from the manufacturer.

Unrelated:
The last couple of months I've really struggled with stitch, usually kicking in fairly early in a run. All distances, intensities etc. I can usually manage it but it's an unwelcome distraction that I've not experienced regularly since I first started running. Any tips on dealing with it?

[johnwilliams77]

tenohfive said:

Indeed, I'm both flavours of Salomon and the UD flasks I own are made by Hydrapak. Not that they're any cheaper buying direct from the manufacturer.

Unrelated:
The last couple of months I've really struggled with stitch, usually kicking in fairly early in a run. All distances, intensities etc. I can usually manage it but it's an unwelcome distraction that I've not experienced regularly since I first started running. Any tips on dealing with it?

I found not having water too soon before running helps

[AbzST64]

johnwilliams77 said:

tenohfive said:

Indeed, I'm both flavours of Salomon and the UD flasks I own are made by Hydrapak. Not that they're any cheaper buying direct from the manufacturer.

Unrelated:
The last couple of months I've really struggled with stitch, usually kicking in fairly early in a run. All distances, intensities etc. I can usually manage it but it's an unwelcome distraction that I've not experienced regularly since I first started running. Any tips on dealing with it?

I found not having water too soon before running helps

Yip id say it's either too much water before a run or the way you breathe at the beginning of a run differs from later on for some reason...!

[tenohfive]

The thing is, I've been running awhle now - and there's no real change. Sometimes I eat not long before (always light) - sometimes I go out and do my LSR fasted. Sometimes I drink just before, usually I don't. Sometimes I'm a less hydrated than I should be, sometimes I'm not. There's no appreciable difference.

ETA:

Wasn't very clear above. I've been running awhile, but this has only started in the last couple of months. Before that it was rare I'd get any issues.

Edited by tenohfive on Wednesday 29th November 15:04

[Original Poster]

Very much a newbie in the running world but I bloody love it.

Currently 6 weeks into the C25K programme and really enjoying it, great to see the progress you make and can now comfortably run for 15 minutes+ which is great. I used to be totally ruined after 1 minute so feeling great.

Contemplating what to do after the C25K, tempted to give the C210K a go? Any other recommendations? I have a very local park run that I plan on doing as well.

[john2443]

Original Poster said:

Very much a newbie in the running world but I bloody love it.

Currently 6 weeks into the C25K programme and really enjoying it, great to see the progress you make and can now comfortably run for 15 minutes+ which is great. I used to be totally ruined after 1 minute so feeling great.

Contemplating what to do after the C25K, tempted to give the C210K a go? Any other recommendations? I have a very local park run that I plan on doing as well.

Well done!

parkrun is a good call, you don't have to finish C25K before you do it, you can run part way or go slower or run / walk until you can run the whole way.

From being able to run 5k I'd say there are 3 options
- run 5k faster
- run longer distances
- be happy running 5k at the same speed

None of these are the right or wrong answer, depends what your target is, if you keep doing 5k at the same pace then you're fitter than most people and for some people that's enough, other people want to be able to go further or faster but whatever you're happy with is good.

[RizzoTheRat]

It's amazing how quick the gains are with C25K isn't it. If you're now able to run for 15 mins I'd say go and give parkrun a go. I waited until I could run the whole thing and should have gone earlier, plenty of people walking the whole thing these days so no problems doing a run walk plan at parkrun, treat it as one of your C25K sessions and then either walk any remaining distance or see how much more you can run.

One of the main benefits to me of starting parkrun was meeting loads of other people who run. I pretty soon started meeting up with a group from parkun on Wednesday nights for a run, and then went on to join a running club who's members mostly go the same parkrun. This gives me way more motivation to go out for a run.



2 days in a row now it's started raining just as I start my run commute home. It's only 3.5 km but chuffing hell that was cold last night. I think I need to start wearing a hat as my head was freezing. Also didn't help that my head torch batteries are starting to get a bit low, and I wear glasses which is never good in the rain, so at one point only noticed a branch across the path when I was a couple of paces away from it

[smn159]

Original Poster said:

Very much a newbie in the running world but I bloody love it.

Currently 6 weeks into the C25K programme and really enjoying it, great to see the progress you make and can now comfortably run for 15 minutes+ which is great. I used to be totally ruined after 1 minute so feeling great.

Contemplating what to do after the C25K, tempted to give the C210K a go? Any other recommendations? I have a very local park run that I plan on doing as well.

Definitely do the Parkrun and I'd suggest looking at your local running clubs as well. My local one does a C25K group and general groups for a range of different abilities. Once you can do 5k look at gradually upping the distance - doesn't matter how slowly - and then later think about some speed / interval / hill sessions, at which point your 5k times will drop quickly. Once you can run 10k the world of organised races starts to open up.. it does become addictive though

Having been running for a couple of years now I find the social side of being in a club as enjoyable as the running!

Enjoy

[madbadger]

RizzoTheRat said:

2 days in a row now it's started raining just as I start my run commute home. It's only 3.5 km but chuffing hell that was cold last night. I think I need to start wearing a hat as my head was freezing. Also didn't help that my head torch batteries are starting to get a bit low, and I wear glasses which is never good in the rain, so at one point only noticed a branch across the path when I was a couple of paces away from it

I can recommend a waterproof cap. I have a ron Hill one, but lots available. The peak keeps a lot of the water off your glasses. Not all of it but enough to help.

[RizzoTheRat]

smn159 said:

Once you can run 10k the world of organised races starts to open up.. it does become addictive though

Having been running for a couple of years now I find the social side of being in a club as enjoyable as the running!

8k (5 miles) also seems to be a pretty common distance for cross country races too, which I much prefer to road running, I'm guessing most clubs will compete in a local cross country league over the winter.

madbadger said:

I can recommend a waterproof cap. I have a ron Hill one, but lots available. The peak keeps a lot of the water off your glasses. Not all of it but enough to help.

Hadn't thought of a peaked one to keep the rain off my specs, that would make more sense than a buff or woolly hat.

Edited by RizzoTheRat on Friday 1st December 13:42

[feef]

RizzoTheRat said:

madbadger said:

I can recommend a waterproof cap. I have a ron Hill one, but lots available. The peak keeps a lot of the water off your glasses. Not all of it but enough to help.

Hadn't thought of a peaked one to keep the rain off my specs, that would make more sense than a buff or woolly hat.

I use a Musto sailing cap, waterproof and fleece lined.

[tenohfive]

feef said:

RizzoTheRat said:

madbadger said:

I can recommend a waterproof cap. I have a ron Hill one, but lots available. The peak keeps a lot of the water off your glasses. Not all of it but enough to help.

Hadn't thought of a peaked one to keep the rain off my specs, that would make more sense than a buff or woolly hat.

I use a Musto sailing cap, waterproof and fleece lined.

The peak can be a bit of a PITA with a headtorch though.

Warmth wise, I swear by the buff microfibre beanies. Anything thicker and I inevitably start to overheat (and I run cold) so end up putting it on and taking it off etc - with the Buff beanie it tends to just stay on regardless in temps from sub-zero to about 7C (or more if windchill is a factor.) I've got a few running bits that I think of as being Goldilocks layers - this is one.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B012GSFN7S/ref...

I do find a cap does a fair job of keeping some of the weather off mind.

Edited by tenohfive on Sunday 3rd December 17:29

[Mothersruin]

https://armadillomerino.com/products/kojak-beanie?...

I've one of these - one of the best bits of kit I've ever bought.

[RizzoTheRat]

I've brought a normal Buff back with me this week to use as a thin hat, but the weather seems to have warmed up a bit.

My first cross country of the year yesterday, having missed all our clubs local league races so far. Not as much mud as the same course last year but bloody hell it was slippery. I felt like Bambi on ice on some stretches, and my SpeedCross are usually pretty good. Still had to walk some bits of it but a course pb by over 2 minutes.

I hadn't realised quite the extent of the Christmas running schedule, with extra parkruns on Christmas and new years day, a boxing day beer run (5km, down a pint, run another km), cross country on new years eve (same course as I did yesterday), Knacker Cracker (very hilly 10k) on new years day... I'm going to have to eat a lot of Christmas food to cope