The Running Thread Vol 2
Discussion
I'm off hiking in Hong Kong for a week in November, I'm generally a runner not a hiker, should I be walking (i.e. does it work different muscles) to be in shape or is my usual hilly trail running ok?
The main difference in my mind is that a) I'll be hiking for much longer than I'd normally run, and b) I'll be carrying a heavier backpack than I would when trail running.
Time is the main issue as I'd struggle to get serious hiking hours in, but if the running for a few hours is going to be as useful as walking for twice as long that's ok.
The main difference in my mind is that a) I'll be hiking for much longer than I'd normally run, and b) I'll be carrying a heavier backpack than I would when trail running.
Time is the main issue as I'd struggle to get serious hiking hours in, but if the running for a few hours is going to be as useful as walking for twice as long that's ok.
For what its worth I run maybe 60-70km per week these days. Prior to that when I used to do hill walking legs used to ache like mad coming the day after generally a bit tired walking up and down etc.
More recently did 5 Munros over 3 days with a ridge walk and found it all easy going at quite a brisk pace. I reckon you should be fine with the running training providing good base for fitness.
More recently did 5 Munros over 3 days with a ridge walk and found it all easy going at quite a brisk pace. I reckon you should be fine with the running training providing good base for fitness.
If you're running hills, walking up hills shouldn't be a major challenge.
That said, if you're not already then doing some strength work will help your quads etc - walking up with weight won't bother you nearly so much as walking down will, and that'll be exacerbated by a load. Doing a weekly session of squats and dead lifts will pay dividends on the last big descent of each day.
That said, if you're not already then doing some strength work will help your quads etc - walking up with weight won't bother you nearly so much as walking down will, and that'll be exacerbated by a load. Doing a weekly session of squats and dead lifts will pay dividends on the last big descent of each day.
GTO-3R said:
I very nearly bought a pair of Nike Flyknit Reacts today but I'm so glad I didn't after just seeing the new Pegasus 35 Turbo's 
My 33's are a bit goosed now so I'm looking forward to trying a pair of these!
Those do look good, but will be eye-wateringly expensive at $180 (probably £150).My 33's are a bit goosed now so I'm looking forward to trying a pair of these!
I hope they're more robust than the Vaporfly 4%, which you would expect of the Turbo as it's billed as a training shoe and not a race shoe.
I've been banging on about my desire to run more "naturally", avoid a heel strike and generally have stronger, more engaged feet, but it was only recently I asked myself why I try all this when running (about 5% of my waking week) whereas I spend about 75% of my waking week in cushioned, high heel drop, achilles shortening work shoes. So, rather than smash my calves from their shortened position for a brief period, I've decided to try easing them out for a longer period. Thus, I have climbed aboard the granola-munching hemp-woven wagon that is barefoot shoes and bought my first VivoBarefoot work shoes. Time will tell, but it's day one and they're really, really comfy. So, so much room. This could be one of those "why did I not do this five years ago?" moments.
tim2100 said:
Did anybody get into London landmarks Half Marathon?
I did it last year with the CF Trust, pre-registered as soon as it was available and then entered the ballot. Both the GF & I got the rejection email yesterday. Shame as i was really looking forward to running it again with her.
A quick scan of my club's Facebook page shows 1 accepted and 13 rejected ... I did it last year with the CF Trust, pre-registered as soon as it was available and then entered the ballot. Both the GF & I got the rejection email yesterday. Shame as i was really looking forward to running it again with her.
Smitters said:
I've been banging on about my desire to run more "naturally", avoid a heel strike and generally have stronger, more engaged feet, but it was only recently I asked myself why I try all this when running (about 5% of my waking week) whereas I spend about 75% of my waking week in cushioned, high heel drop, achilles shortening work shoes. So, rather than smash my calves from their shortened position for a brief period, I've decided to try easing them out for a longer period. Thus, I have climbed aboard the granola-munching hemp-woven wagon that is barefoot shoes and bought my first VivoBarefoot work shoes. Time will tell, but it's day one and they're really, really comfy. So, so much room. This could be one of those "why did I not do this five years ago?" moments.
Some of their stuff looks interesting and seeing work shoes that you can roll up due to how supple the sole is looks interesting. But with the way I treat my feet at work I can't see any sole that soft lasting more than a month or two. And at £125 a pop...I'll stick with my £35 Clarks for now.Kilan Jornet is a machine!
He's broken the record at the Bob Graham Round by almost an hour
https://youtu.be/1niVMtramxA
He's broken the record at the Bob Graham Round by almost an hour
https://youtu.be/1niVMtramxA
feef said:
Kilan Jornet is a machine!
He's broken the record at the Bob Graham Round by almost an hour
https://youtu.be/1niVMtramxA
You're doing tailwalker duties - discussed a page back.He's broken the record at the Bob Graham Round by almost an hour
https://youtu.be/1niVMtramxA
tenohfive said:
Some of their stuff looks interesting and seeing work shoes that you can roll up due to how supple the sole is looks interesting. But with the way I treat my feet at work I can't see any sole that soft lasting more than a month or two. And at £125 a pop...I'll stick with my £35 Clarks for now.
Same here , 11 miles a day 6 days a week somehow I don't think they'd last long .tenohfive said:
feef said:
Kilan Jornet is a machine!
He's broken the record at the Bob Graham Round by almost an hour
https://youtu.be/1niVMtramxA
You're doing tailwalker duties - discussed a page back.He's broken the record at the Bob Graham Round by almost an hour
https://youtu.be/1niVMtramxA
Smitters said:
I've been banging on about my desire to run more "naturally", avoid a heel strike and generally have stronger, more engaged feet, but it was only recently I asked myself why I try all this when running (about 5% of my waking week) whereas I spend about 75% of my waking week in cushioned, high heel drop, achilles shortening work shoes. So, rather than smash my calves from their shortened position for a brief period, I've decided to try easing them out for a longer period. Thus, I have climbed aboard the granola-munching hemp-woven wagon that is barefoot shoes and bought my first VivoBarefoot work shoes. Time will tell, but it's day one and they're really, really comfy. So, so much room. This could be one of those "why did I not do this five years ago?" moments.
On the road, I often run in my five-fingers and I find it does make a difference. I've not yet moved to barefoot for trail running, simply due to the unevenness of the train on such a thin sole (and twigs and pebbles get stuck between the toes). If I get some Vivobarefoot or similar rather than the FiveFingers, I'll maybe give them a try on the trails tootim2100 said:
Did anybody get into London landmarks Half Marathon?
I did it last year with the CF Trust, pre-registered as soon as it was available and then entered the ballot. Both the GF & I got the rejection email yesterday. Shame as i was really looking forward to running it again with her.
The Gf and I applied, I got accepted and she didn’t. She is going to run for a charity place, as she did it last year. I did it last year with the CF Trust, pre-registered as soon as it was available and then entered the ballot. Both the GF & I got the rejection email yesterday. Shame as i was really looking forward to running it again with her.
She really liked her race, and I’m going to help her try and beat her time.
On the subject of the Vivobarefoots, I must admit, I got 20% off, and I walk virtually nowhere in the day (water cooler, coffee machine, water cooler, loo, and repeat). The foldability was a selling point for run-commuting. Based on my wear-rate of shoes normally, I'd expect to get 3-5 years from these. I'm quite light on stuff. I'll check back in in 2023...
More and more of my running is taking place off road. Nothing to extreme and mainly forest fire tracks and single track with a mixture of well made solid paths, a little rocky in areas and some sandy / muddy ( if it rains) sections.
Trail trainer wise can anyone throw a few suggestions at me don't know where to start. Currently like Nike Vomero as they are fairly cushioned and seem to work well for me over distance.
Trail trainer wise can anyone throw a few suggestions at me don't know where to start. Currently like Nike Vomero as they are fairly cushioned and seem to work well for me over distance.
JimmyConwayNW said:
More and more of my running is taking place off road. Nothing to extreme and mainly forest fire tracks and single track with a mixture of well made solid paths, a little rocky in areas and some sandy / muddy ( if it rains) sections.
Trail trainer wise can anyone throw a few suggestions at me don't know where to start. Currently like Nike Vomero as they are fairly cushioned and seem to work well for me over distance.
It depends what sort of terrain you'll be doing. If it's metalled tracks then you don't need massivley aggressive lugs. If it's going to be muddy, then decent lugs would be a benefit. If it's rocky, then you might want something with a decent plate or support in the sole.Trail trainer wise can anyone throw a few suggestions at me don't know where to start. Currently like Nike Vomero as they are fairly cushioned and seem to work well for me over distance.
I've got a pair of Salomon XA-Lite and have used them for everything. https://www.salomon.com/uk/product/xa-lite.html They are pretty poor for traction in slippery mud, but I've only had a couple of runs where that's actually been a problem.
I am looking at getting something with amore aggressive lug pattern tho, as I'm finding more and more of my running is in spring and autumn, and less in the heat... I just can't get motivated to go out when it's this hot
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