The Running Thread Vol 2
Discussion
johnwilliams77 said:
Well done. Have you done a 200miler before and did you think you could finish this one? A strava of the course shows nearly 240miles for some people who completed the course!
No - longest usually is 50-60, either one off or during multi-days; my wife has done a few hundred milers (WHWR) and we both thought that with a fair wind we stood a decent chance, I think if the pace hadn't slowed due to feet then we'd have had more rest and got further - small problems can become vicious circles I guess.Yeah - one of the runners did 240 I saw. There were lots of navigation issues and one guy did at least 5 miles on top of every 20; the course -Southern Upland Way - is not well trod and comprises of linking trail, forestry tracks and roads with sometimes poor marking - the organisers added tape and signs but this wasn't rationalised too well so if you didn't pay attention or had no nav skills then it would be easy to drift. We had no problems and only used the gps grid ref once when we were a bit confused. There are also possible discrepancies when CPs weren't bang on the trail and a few kms extra have been added.
On that note, Harvey's Maps did a brilliant job of creating a one sheet tear/waterproof map in time for the event - in my view they do the best mapping product out there for practical use.
Oh - and thanks for the comments, chaps above!
andy_s said:
No - longest usually is 50-60, either one off or during multi-days; my wife has done a few hundred milers (WHWR) and we both thought that with a fair wind we stood a decent chance, I think if the pace hadn't slowed due to feet then we'd have had more rest and got further - small problems can become vicious circles I guess.
Yeah - one of the runners did 240 I saw. There were lots of navigation issues and one guy did at least 5 miles on top of every 20; the course -Southern Upland Way - is not well trod and comprises of linking trail, forestry tracks and roads with sometimes poor marking - the organisers added tape and signs but this wasn't rationalised too well so if you didn't pay attention or had no nav skills then it would be easy to drift. We had no problems and only used the gps grid ref once when we were a bit confused. There are also possible discrepancies when CPs weren't bang on the trail and a few kms extra have been added.
On that note, Harvey's Maps did a brilliant job of creating a one sheet tear/waterproof map in time for the event - in my view they do the best mapping product out there for practical use.
Oh - and thanks for the comments, chaps above!
Thanks for the info, interesting. I followed the whole thing but I do not think I have it in me to put myself through that lack of sleep! Amazing job anyway. I did a hilly marathon with damaged feet which took a couple of weeks to recover from which was depressing enough so I cant even imagine the suffering you went through as my pain was only for a few hrs.Yeah - one of the runners did 240 I saw. There were lots of navigation issues and one guy did at least 5 miles on top of every 20; the course -Southern Upland Way - is not well trod and comprises of linking trail, forestry tracks and roads with sometimes poor marking - the organisers added tape and signs but this wasn't rationalised too well so if you didn't pay attention or had no nav skills then it would be easy to drift. We had no problems and only used the gps grid ref once when we were a bit confused. There are also possible discrepancies when CPs weren't bang on the trail and a few kms extra have been added.
On that note, Harvey's Maps did a brilliant job of creating a one sheet tear/waterproof map in time for the event - in my view they do the best mapping product out there for practical use.
Oh - and thanks for the comments, chaps above!
TiminYorkshire said:
I need something that will last 10-14 hours (my estimated time for The Grand Tour of Skiddaw at the beginning of September).
I've unexpectedly had this weekend come free and I'm looking to squeeze an ultra in. Anyone done the Grand Tour of Skiddaw before, or any of the Pure Outdoor races before? I'm also considering a 12 hour race as something different.
Itching to get a race in even though I'm in no real shape to do so.
Went out with the local Hash House Harriers last night. I quite like the approach to the run, the quicker people end up running around to work out the route at junctions, giving the slower people time to catch up, so everyone finishes around the same time. It does end up being quite stop start but I don't really have a problem with that, 9km took about an hour in the end, not including the stop a couple of km from the end for apple brandy, rum, and some strange sweet malty drink. Friendly bunch too, ended up back at someone's house for a BBQ and several beers at 10pm and didn't make it to bed until 1am after a half hour cycle home 
The bit that appeals a lot less to me though is the singing silly songs in a circle at the end while people have to drink forfeits for various misdemeanours, which took bloody ages, and all the silly names (first 2 people we spoke to were called Baldf
ker and <somethingIdidn'tcatch>fker).
I might and get along to a few more though.
The bit that appeals a lot less to me though is the singing silly songs in a circle at the end while people have to drink forfeits for various misdemeanours, which took bloody ages, and all the silly names (first 2 people we spoke to were called Baldf
ker and <somethingIdidn'tcatch>fker).I might and get along to a few more though.
Quick question for Garmin users around auto lap. I'm doing a lapped race soon and want to be able to hit the manual lap button after the first lap then have it do auto lap thereafter - so I can specify pretty much exactly the distance (which isn't a nice even number) but have the watch do the work after. Is that possible?
Well completed the Grand Tour of Skiddaw today, hardwork but pleased with myself. 9 hours 44minutes and some seconds, 32nd place so chuffed and now sipping on red wine in the back of the van whilst the suppott team snooze. My toes however are now like little sausahes! A well organised race with a friendly atmosphere.
tenohfive said:
Quick question for Garmin users around auto lap. I'm doing a lapped race soon and want to be able to hit the manual lap button after the first lap then have it do auto lap thereafter - so I can specify pretty much exactly the distance (which isn't a nice even number) but have the watch do the work after. Is that possible?
Really have no idea if this is possible tenohfive said:
Quick question for Garmin users around auto lap. I'm doing a lapped race soon and want to be able to hit the manual lap button after the first lap then have it do auto lap thereafter - so I can specify pretty much exactly the distance (which isn't a nice even number) but have the watch do the work after. Is that possible?
Do you want to know your lap times during the race or is this to look at afterwards? No idea how to do it live, but to review later you could set a lap as a Strava segment and then you'd see your individual tunes for that segment...I think. Didn’t know wether to start a new thread, but looking for some guidance about the Great North next week.
We’re driving up from Chester at 5am and should be in Newcastle for 8am. We’re thinking of parking up in Gateshead and leaving the car there then walking to the start.
How reasonable does that sound, or will all the car parks there be full already?
Anyone else done anything better?
We’re driving up from Chester at 5am and should be in Newcastle for 8am. We’re thinking of parking up in Gateshead and leaving the car there then walking to the start.
How reasonable does that sound, or will all the car parks there be full already?
Anyone else done anything better?
Ultra types - what do you use for navigation on races ?
I'm to tight to get a fenix or sunto watch so looking at the little garmin e-trex devices .
Almost killed my iphone the other day on a 20 mile run where i had 4g on the whole time and music for 10 miles.
On my old android it used to show where i was on a map without any 3/4g but in the iphone it needs the net to show where i am on a map , on a run i just get a little dot moving on a blank screen with no 4g turned on.
I'm to tight to get a fenix or sunto watch so looking at the little garmin e-trex devices .
Almost killed my iphone the other day on a 20 mile run where i had 4g on the whole time and music for 10 miles.
On my old android it used to show where i was on a map without any 3/4g but in the iphone it needs the net to show where i am on a map , on a run i just get a little dot moving on a blank screen with no 4g turned on.
egor110 said:
Ultra types - what do you use for navigation on races ?
I'm to tight to get a fenix or sunto watch so looking at the little garmin e-trex devices .
Almost killed my iphone the other day on a 20 mile run where i had 4g on the whole time and music for 10 miles.
On my old android it used to show where i was on a map without any 3/4g but in the iphone it needs the net to show where i am on a map , on a run i just get a little dot moving on a blank screen with no 4g turned on.
You can download maps to use while you are offline, I have the OS Maps app, or you can use Google Maps.I'm to tight to get a fenix or sunto watch so looking at the little garmin e-trex devices .
Almost killed my iphone the other day on a 20 mile run where i had 4g on the whole time and music for 10 miles.
On my old android it used to show where i was on a map without any 3/4g but in the iphone it needs the net to show where i am on a map , on a run i just get a little dot moving on a blank screen with no 4g turned on.
egor110 said:
Ultra types - what do you use for navigation on races ?
I'm to tight to get a fenix or sunto watch so looking at the little garmin e-trex devices .
Almost killed my iphone the other day on a 20 mile run where i had 4g on the whole time and music for 10 miles.
On my old android it used to show where i was on a map without any 3/4g but in the iphone it needs the net to show where i am on a map , on a run i just get a little dot moving on a blank screen with no 4g turned on.
how do you know the dot is moving if the screen is blank??? I'm to tight to get a fenix or sunto watch so looking at the little garmin e-trex devices .
Almost killed my iphone the other day on a 20 mile run where i had 4g on the whole time and music for 10 miles.
On my old android it used to show where i was on a map without any 3/4g but in the iphone it needs the net to show where i am on a map , on a run i just get a little dot moving on a blank screen with no 4g turned on.
Polite M135 driver said:
egor110 said:
Ultra types - what do you use for navigation on races ?
I'm to tight to get a fenix or sunto watch so looking at the little garmin e-trex devices .
Almost killed my iphone the other day on a 20 mile run where i had 4g on the whole time and music for 10 miles.
On my old android it used to show where i was on a map without any 3/4g but in the iphone it needs the net to show where i am on a map , on a run i just get a little dot moving on a blank screen with no 4g turned on.
how do you know the dot is moving if the screen is blank??? I'm to tight to get a fenix or sunto watch so looking at the little garmin e-trex devices .
Almost killed my iphone the other day on a 20 mile run where i had 4g on the whole time and music for 10 miles.
On my old android it used to show where i was on a map without any 3/4g but in the iphone it needs the net to show where i am on a map , on a run i just get a little dot moving on a blank screen with no 4g turned on.
egor110 said:
Ultra types - what do you use for navigation on races ?
I'm to tight to get a fenix or sunto watch so looking at the little garmin e-trex devices .
Almost killed my iphone the other day on a 20 mile run where i had 4g on the whole time and music for 10 miles.
On my old android it used to show where i was on a map without any 3/4g but in the iphone it needs the net to show where i am on a map , on a run i just get a little dot moving on a blank screen with no 4g turned on.
The issue is having a mapping app with offline mapping as someone else mentioned. The cheapest route is to get an older Android phone, download Viewranger and use OSM maps (which are free.) That'll give you topo maps - just make sure you create a saved area that covers everywhere you need. You can pay for OS maps as well if you want them, or if you've got an OS maps subscription use their app.I'm to tight to get a fenix or sunto watch so looking at the little garmin e-trex devices .
Almost killed my iphone the other day on a 20 mile run where i had 4g on the whole time and music for 10 miles.
On my old android it used to show where i was on a map without any 3/4g but in the iphone it needs the net to show where i am on a map , on a run i just get a little dot moving on a blank screen with no 4g turned on.
Turn off wifi, bluetooth and mobile data and you'll get days out of it (depending on the phone.) My old Moto E 4G cost me £35 years ago.
That said, depending on the race you might not need to get anything. From what I've seen you've got three types of route:
1. Fully marked, GPS allowed.
2. Unmarked, GPS not allowed.
3. No race markings (but if following National Trails, using the natural paths) where GPS is allowed.
If it's 1 or 3 you won't need to have your GPS running constantly and you'll only need it when unsure of your exact position. I'm sure your iPhone with VR will allow the downloading of maps for offline use. Once you've got those and turned off mobile data your battery should last a lot longer.
I've got a mix of breadcrumb mapping on my watch (935) and I've also tried dwMaps which gives OSM maps on the watch face. Breadcrumb is usually plenty, the screen of these watches is just too small for proper maps to fit. When I've got 3 paths all going off roughly in the same direction 20 yards jogging is usually enough to indicate if I've picked the right one with breadcrumb - I don't ever remember getting the phone out with proper OS mapping on it during a race.
C0ffin D0dger said:
andy_s said:
My wife was hallucinating vividly, talking to trees and falling asleep walking
Sounds fun, where do I sign up Used to take LSD for this sort of thing in my younger days
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