Wiggins - could this be a Similar issue as Lance A ?
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funkyrobot said:
I'm guessing he is going to, as said above, chuck Sky under the wheels. It may be that he hasnt done anything, but the team havent been so squeaky clean. Maybe he is so annoyed he will blab and try to make out it wasnt his fault etc. Who knows eh.
I wonder if he'll say anything about Froome?
Interesting that he has already started with the comments about the marginal gains being nonsense.
My guessI wonder if he'll say anything about Froome?
Interesting that he has already started with the comments about the marginal gains being nonsense.
COMPLETELY MADE UP said:
I said to Dave, "I'm not sure about this fake TUE. I've never needed one before"
But Dave said "Listen Brad mate, everyone and their dog is on something that's allowed on the rules. We've got it signed off so it's not illegal!. Just take the damn thing. We're going to make you a legend!"
I could tell he was angry. So I did as I was told as I'm just the rider
But Dave said "Listen Brad mate, everyone and their dog is on something that's allowed on the rules. We've got it signed off so it's not illegal!. Just take the damn thing. We're going to make you a legend!"
I could tell he was angry. So I did as I was told as I'm just the rider
It doesn't make too much sense from the quotes - he's basically saying it's terrible he's being accused because of his integrity and views etc, but then if something is going to shock people presumably someone was doing something wrong. Which then means his integrity etc surely would be very poor if he knew about it, which he said wasn't the case...
Wonder what the supporters of marginal gains make of it now. I know Matthew Syed was a big fan (and he normally talks sense).
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-34247629
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/olympics/19174302
In some ways there is a lot of logic in it. But the effect of taking a fluffy pillow with you is likely to be dwarfed by injecting yourself with a PED!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-34247629
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/olympics/19174302
In some ways there is a lot of logic in it. But the effect of taking a fluffy pillow with you is likely to be dwarfed by injecting yourself with a PED!
Northbloke said:
Wonder what the supporters of marginal gains make of it now. I know Matthew Syed was a big fan (and he normally talks sense).
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-34247629
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/olympics/19174302
In some ways there is a lot of logic in it. But the effect of taking a fluffy pillow with you is likely to be dwarfed by injecting yourself with a PED!
Take this fluffy pillow.http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-34247629
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/olympics/19174302
In some ways there is a lot of logic in it. But the effect of taking a fluffy pillow with you is likely to be dwarfed by injecting yourself with a PED!
Why?
It smells of soothing lavender, and is drenched in inhaler chemicals.
Team Sky - sponsored by Tunes and Vicks.
Speaking at a corporate event in the City of London "Sir Bradley Wiggins says marginal gains is 'load of rubbish' and calls Victoria Pendleton 'bit of a milkshake' "
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/cycling/2017/03/26/sir-...
WTF is a milkshake?
Great line from the wigins
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/cycling/2017/03/26/sir-...
WTF is a milkshake?
Great line from the wigins
wiggins said:
"Sometimes in life or in sport, whatever, you’re either good at something or you’re not.
“That’s what makes you a better athlete: your physical ability and whether you’ve trained enough – not whether you’ve slept on a certain pillow or mattress.”
Didn't clarify it physical ability is your regular one or the TUE enhanced on... “That’s what makes you a better athlete: your physical ability and whether you’ve trained enough – not whether you’ve slept on a certain pillow or mattress.”
JuniorD said:
Speaking at a corporate event in the City of London "Sir Bradley Wiggins says marginal gains is 'load of rubbish' and calls Victoria Pendleton 'bit of a milkshake' "
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/cycling/2017/03/26/sir-...
WTF is a milkshake?
Great line from the wigins
He'll be saying Volkswagen are a load of rubbish in a few years. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/cycling/2017/03/26/sir-...
WTF is a milkshake?
Great line from the wigins
wiggins said:
"Sometimes in life or in sport, whatever, you’re either good at something or you’re not.
“That’s what makes you a better athlete: your physical ability and whether you’ve trained enough – not whether you’ve slept on a certain pillow or mattress.”
Didn't clarify it physical ability is your regular one or the TUE enhanced on... “That’s what makes you a better athlete: your physical ability and whether you’ve trained enough – not whether you’ve slept on a certain pillow or mattress.”
Did he call Pendleton a milkshake as he would like to give her a lick?
Correction - he has already said he wouldn't put his mother in a Skoda.
Edited by funkyrobot on Monday 27th March 11:27
funkyrobot said:
JuniorD said:
Speaking at a corporate event in the City of London "Sir Bradley Wiggins says marginal gains is 'load of rubbish' and calls Victoria Pendleton 'bit of a milkshake' "
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/cycling/2017/03/26/sir-...
WTF is a milkshake?
Great line from the wigins
He'll be saying Volkswagen are a load of rubbish in a few years. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/cycling/2017/03/26/sir-...
WTF is a milkshake?
Great line from the wigins
wiggins said:
"Sometimes in life or in sport, whatever, you’re either good at something or you’re not.
“That’s what makes you a better athlete: your physical ability and whether you’ve trained enough – not whether you’ve slept on a certain pillow or mattress.”
Didn't clarify it physical ability is your regular one or the TUE enhanced on... “That’s what makes you a better athlete: your physical ability and whether you’ve trained enough – not whether you’ve slept on a certain pillow or mattress.”
Did he call Pendleton a milkshake as he would like to give her a lick?
Correction - he has already said he wouldn't put his mother in a Skoda.
Edited by funkyrobot on Monday 27th March 11:27
Rich_W said:
Only I wasn't drunk then, And I'm not drunk now.
Late on a Friday night, you make a series of illogical, ill thought through assumptions and post aggressively and provocatively. Yeah, whatever you say. .
Rich_W said:
Therefore you have EIA and need an Inhaler. If you needed it all the time I'd have sympathy. But seemingly you don't need it all the time. And only need it when training for IM. Which speaks volumes...
I genuinely think there is something wrong with you.Read what I actually posted. I don't "have EIA", I've experienced EIA ONCE. I don't need an inhaler - I've never used it. My doctor prescribed me one as a precaution after I'd suffered post-race pneumonia ONCE. I posted to corroborate the fact that EIA wouldn't be unusual in a sportsperson - I've had experience of it.
So given the actual facts and not your distorted interpretation on my post, what "speaks volumes"? Tell me also how salbutamol would be PED?
Rich_W said:
Personally if you have EIA I suggest you find a less strenuous sport to participate in. IM is tough, and I would hate for you to come a cropper.
Personally, I would suggest you take that chip off your shoulder, take some reading lessons, apologise and whilst undertaking the next step of your little crusade, understand what confirmation bias is.What's the matter - do you think everyone beating you in IM is on PEDs? Bless you.
Did anyone else watch the documentary last night? On iPlayer now.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/cycling/2017/11/19/sir-...
Nothing we didn't already know - more of a brief idiots guide to the situation.
https://publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm201719/cms...
110.From the evidence that has been received by the Committee regarding the use of triamcinolone at Team Sky during the period under investigation, and particularly in 2012, we believe that this powerful corticosteroid was being used to prepare Bradley Wiggins, and possibly other riders supporting him, for the Tour de France. The purpose of this was not to treat medical need, but to improve his power to weight ratio ahead of the race. The application for the TUE for the triamcinolone for Bradley Wiggins, ahead of the 2012 Tour de France, also meant that he benefited from the performance enhancing properties of this drug during the race. This does not constitute a violation of the WADA code, but it does cross the ethical line that David Brailsford says he himself drew for Team Sky. In this case, and contrary to the testimony of David Brailsford in front of the Committee, we believe that drugs were being used by Team Sky, within the WADA rules, to enhance the performance of riders, and not just to treat medical need.
Sky response
The Report details again areas in the past where we have already acknowledged that the Team fell short. We take full responsibility for mistakes that were made. We wrote to the Committee in March 2017 setting out in detail the steps we took in subsequent years to put them right, including, for example, the strengthening of our medical record keeping.
However, the Report also makes the serious claim that medication has been used by the Team to enhance performance. We strongly refute this. The report also includes an allegation of widespread Triamcinolone use by Team Sky riders ahead of the 2012 Tour de France. Again, we strongly refute this allegation. We are surprised and disappointed that the Committee has chosen to present an anonymous and potentially malicious claim in this way, without presenting any evidence or giving us an opportunity to respond. This is unfair both to the Team and to the riders in question.
We take our responsibility to the sport seriously. We are committed to creating an environment at Team Sky where riders can perform to the best of their ability, and do it clean.
Read more at https://www.teamsky.com/article/team-sky-response-...
110.From the evidence that has been received by the Committee regarding the use of triamcinolone at Team Sky during the period under investigation, and particularly in 2012, we believe that this powerful corticosteroid was being used to prepare Bradley Wiggins, and possibly other riders supporting him, for the Tour de France. The purpose of this was not to treat medical need, but to improve his power to weight ratio ahead of the race. The application for the TUE for the triamcinolone for Bradley Wiggins, ahead of the 2012 Tour de France, also meant that he benefited from the performance enhancing properties of this drug during the race. This does not constitute a violation of the WADA code, but it does cross the ethical line that David Brailsford says he himself drew for Team Sky. In this case, and contrary to the testimony of David Brailsford in front of the Committee, we believe that drugs were being used by Team Sky, within the WADA rules, to enhance the performance of riders, and not just to treat medical need.
Sky response
The Report details again areas in the past where we have already acknowledged that the Team fell short. We take full responsibility for mistakes that were made. We wrote to the Committee in March 2017 setting out in detail the steps we took in subsequent years to put them right, including, for example, the strengthening of our medical record keeping.
However, the Report also makes the serious claim that medication has been used by the Team to enhance performance. We strongly refute this. The report also includes an allegation of widespread Triamcinolone use by Team Sky riders ahead of the 2012 Tour de France. Again, we strongly refute this allegation. We are surprised and disappointed that the Committee has chosen to present an anonymous and potentially malicious claim in this way, without presenting any evidence or giving us an opportunity to respond. This is unfair both to the Team and to the riders in question.
We take our responsibility to the sport seriously. We are committed to creating an environment at Team Sky where riders can perform to the best of their ability, and do it clean.
Read more at https://www.teamsky.com/article/team-sky-response-...
So 7 years of Tour de France without a winner
Now the real possibility of a further 3 if Wiggins is stripped.
What about those 5 Olympic Folds..... all stripped.
Should his OBE be removed too
His sponsorships should be removed
Demand recovery of winning prize money
Froome in the mix as well.
Basically cycling is proving beyond doubt to be a filthy drug infested sport with what appears to be winners happily lying for their own greed.
Now the real possibility of a further 3 if Wiggins is stripped.
What about those 5 Olympic Folds..... all stripped.
Should his OBE be removed too
His sponsorships should be removed
Demand recovery of winning prize money
Froome in the mix as well.
Basically cycling is proving beyond doubt to be a filthy drug infested sport with what appears to be winners happily lying for their own greed.
Welshbeef said:
So 7 years of Tour de France without a winner
Now the real possibility of a further 3 if Wiggins is stripped.
What about those 5 Olympic Folds..... all stripped.
Should his OBE be removed too
His sponsorships should be removed
Demand recovery of winning prize money
Froome in the mix as well.
Basically cycling is proving beyond doubt to be a filthy drug infested sport with what appears to be winners happily lying for their own greed.
What do you mean proving it’s self dirty? Do you know the history of the sport?Now the real possibility of a further 3 if Wiggins is stripped.
What about those 5 Olympic Folds..... all stripped.
Should his OBE be removed too
His sponsorships should be removed
Demand recovery of winning prize money
Froome in the mix as well.
Basically cycling is proving beyond doubt to be a filthy drug infested sport with what appears to be winners happily lying for their own greed.
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