General rugby thread

General rugby thread

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MellowshipSlinky

14,694 posts

189 months

Friday 3rd July 2020
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Was looking forward to seeing Manu and Nadolo playing together...

JonChalk

6,469 posts

110 months

Saturday 4th July 2020
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Bonus of forking out for NowTV to watch F1 and IndyCar, is that get to watch live rugby in front of a crowd - Highlanders vs Crusaders on now smile

df76

3,627 posts

278 months

Saturday 4th July 2020
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JonChalk said:
Bonus of forking out for NowTV to watch F1 and IndyCar, is that get to watch live rugby in front of a crowd - Highlanders vs Crusaders on now smile
Yep, enjoyed some of that this morning. With all of the sport over the next couple of months I didn't feel too conned by the Now tv sports deal.

JonChalk

6,469 posts

110 months

Saturday 4th July 2020
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df76 said:
JonChalk said:
Bonus of forking out for NowTV to watch F1 and IndyCar, is that get to watch live rugby in front of a crowd - Highlanders vs Crusaders on now smile
Yep, enjoyed some of that this morning. With all of the sport over the next couple of months I didn't feel too conned by the Now tv sports deal.
Yes; some cricket as well, hopefully.

My OH is not best pleased - I'm going to have to work very hard in other departments!

df76

3,627 posts

278 months

Saturday 4th July 2020
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JonChalk said:
df76 said:
JonChalk said:
Bonus of forking out for NowTV to watch F1 and IndyCar, is that get to watch live rugby in front of a crowd - Highlanders vs Crusaders on now smile
Yep, enjoyed some of that this morning. With all of the sport over the next couple of months I didn't feel too conned by the Now tv sports deal.
Yes; some cricket as well, hopefully.

My OH is not best pleased - I'm going to have to work very hard in other departments!
Well, the IMSA race start at 11pm tonight and runs until 3am. Then Chiefs v Hurricanes at 4am. Followed by a whole spare 90mins until F3, F2, Porsche Super Cup and Formula One. Bit stressed by the lack of sleep and DIY time.

One Amp Andy

1,462 posts

190 months

Saturday 4th July 2020
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df76 said:
JonChalk said:
df76 said:
JonChalk said:
Bonus of forking out for NowTV to watch F1 and IndyCar, is that get to watch live rugby in front of a crowd - Highlanders vs Crusaders on now smile
Yep, enjoyed some of that this morning. With all of the sport over the next couple of months I didn't feel too conned by the Now tv sports deal.
Yes; some cricket as well, hopefully.

My OH is not best pleased - I'm going to have to work very hard in other departments!
Well, the IMSA race start at 11pm tonight and runs until 3am. Then Chiefs v Hurricanes at 4am. Followed by a whole spare 90mins until F3, F2, Porsche Super Cup and Formula One. Bit stressed by the lack of sleep and DIY time.
biggrin This just happens to be my viewing 'ensemble'. The only problem is the wife bought me some bourbon, so I'm leathered already, after an early start heading back from Cornwall. NRL are back playing live too, btw.

The Mad Monk

10,474 posts

117 months

Sunday 5th July 2020
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London Scottish are moving to Esher for two seasons before getting their own ground in SW London!? (I don't see why there should be a problem there!!)

It would seem that LS fell out with with the SRFU in 2016. They have now decided to split with Richmond where they have only played for one hundred and twenty six years.

Anybody know the real reason?

"London Scottish announces today it is to move on from the home it has shared with Richmond FC since 1894.
The two clubs this week agreed an amicable parting of the ways after four years of negotiations over their future together.
The decision was driven by the operational difficulties of the Richmond Athletic Ground hosting two competing Championship clubs on the same ground and by London Scottish’s need to secure its commercial sustainability. London Scottish will play one final season there and will move in the summer of 2021.
London Scottish President Paul Burnell said: “We have been looking for some time at the long-term future for our club, which will be 150 years old in 2028. By then we will be well settled in a new permanent home where we can maximise the revenue required to deliver on our exciting plans.
“We will be presenting those plans, our Vision 150, to members, shareholders, sponsors and supporters later this month, along with the three-to-five-year pathway for achieving all our objectives.”
The club said the 1st XV will temporarily play at the home of Esher RFC from 2021-22 for at least two seasons. It will shortly agree a venue for the rest of the club, while it concludes negotiations for its new permanent home.
“We have identified a number of sites for a new permanent home in South West London, where we can develop all our activities, from minis and juniors and girls’ rugby, through to touch and amateur rugby and of course sustain our professional 1st XV at the highest achievable level.
“By moving, we will also be able to increase engagement with our local community, expanding our support for children in need and their parents and teachers, which is just not practical at Richmond, who themselves have extensive community programmes.”
“it will be an enormous emotional wrench to leave our old home after 127 years. I played most of my adult rugby there and, like my team mates and those who played before me and since, I formed precious, lifelong friendships with Richmond as well as London Scottish players. Each year the clubs stand together at the war memorial we built together, to remember the hundreds of our two clubs’ former players who gave their lives.”
The club is already discussing with Richmond how to make this final season a true celebration of a rich and shared history, and the two Championship matches between the clubs promise to be special occasions.
London Scottish Chairman Malcolm Offord added: “Like Paul, I will always cherish memories of playing at the Athletic Ground and forging friendships with team mates and Richmond rivals alike. But we have an exciting future ahead of us with partners keen to invest in and support our plans once we move, and the whole club will benefit.”
Commenting on the decision, Richmond Rugby Chairman Nick Preston said: “It’s an emotional moment for both clubs but, like London Scottish, we increasingly feel the Athletic Ground cannot support two competing and ambitious clubs, and this is the right decision for both of us. But we are going to celebrate one final season together, and matches between us at all levels from 1st XV to minis will always be very special.”

Kermit power

28,642 posts

213 months

Sunday 5th July 2020
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[Quote = The Mad Monk]London Scottish stuff
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That all makes sense to me. I'm not sure why you're looking for a hidden agenda?

Not having your own ground in the second tier of English rugby must put you at a significant disadvantage, surely?


The Mad Monk

10,474 posts

117 months

Sunday 5th July 2020
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For starters, I do enjoy a good conspiracy theory.

LS have played at Richmond for over a hundred years and now it's suddenly not acceptable!

Surely there must be a hidden agenda?

Please?

the tribester

2,382 posts

86 months

Sunday 5th July 2020
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Maybe LS don't believe ring fencing will happen and are confident that they'll earn promotion into the Prem, and for that they need their own ground, as shared facilities won't meet the promotion criteria.

Kermit power

28,642 posts

213 months

Monday 6th July 2020
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https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2020/jul/02/rugb...

The speculation rumbles on...

Personally I don't buy the notion that moving the game to pay TV would deprive millions of fans from seeing the game. I know people compare it to cricket dropping out of sight, but rugby is a much shorter game, and has the benefit of intra-UK competition. I reckon most people will just watch it down the pub if they don't have the right subscription, or better yet, watch it whilst spending a few quid over the bar at their local rugby club...

768

13,662 posts

96 months

Tuesday 7th July 2020
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I'm not sure a shorter game has better chances of surviving pay TV - I'd have thought there more value in something people got more hours of viewing from? The premiership matches being elsewhere doesn't help either.

It's not just cricket, it's at least F1 too. Pubs are on the way out too. frown

The Mad Monk

10,474 posts

117 months

Monday 13th July 2020
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Wales to play home games at Twickenham this Autumn.....

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/rugby-union/2020/07/12...

Well, I never did! Wembley is one thing - but TWICKENHAM!!!

Kermit power

28,642 posts

213 months

Monday 13th July 2020
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The Mad Monk said:
Wales to play home games at Twickenham this Autumn.....

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/rugby-union/2020/07/12...

Well, I never did! Wembley is one thing - but TWICKENHAM!!!
I suppose at least they're keeping the money in the rugby community, but how will the poor little cherubs cope if they can't close the roof on their wendy house?

Zirconia

36,010 posts

284 months

Monday 13th July 2020
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The Mad Monk said:
Wales to play home games at Twickenham this Autumn.....

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/rugby-union/2020/07/12...

Well, I never did! Wembley is one thing - but TWICKENHAM!!!
I assume cos pop up hospital is still a requirement but Swansea and Cardiff have reasonable capacity, not the same as the Millennium of course but no way would I pay for the ticket and rail fare (with covid) to go to twickers (not cos English, cos freakn expensive). Refuse to pay the existing ticket price anyway.

Kermit power

28,642 posts

213 months

Monday 13th July 2020
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Zirconia said:
I assume cos pop up hospital is still a requirement but Swansea and Cardiff have reasonable capacity, not the same as the Millennium of course but no way would I pay for the ticket and rail fare (with covid) to go to twickers (not cos English, cos freakn expensive). Refuse to pay the existing ticket price anyway.
Bear in mind that Twickenham has a capacity of 80,000 which they reckon will be reduced to 40,000 at 1m social distancing. The Liberty and Cardiff City stadia only have respective capacities of 21,000 and 33,000 to start with.

Even then, I'd question whether there's a metre between each row of seats at Twickenham! I'm only 5'10", and there's not much room between my knees and the back of the person in front of me, and that's before you consider that it's frankly absurd to worry about anyone catching anything at the stadium, compared to the environment of everyone cramming onto trains at Twickenham stadium before and after the games!

I would like to think that the government will apologise for the absurd degree of overreaction to which they'd subjected us and tell us all to get back to normal life before the Autumn Internationals, but if they don't, then I don't see how playing games in front of a crowd at Twickenham is a viable prospect either?

Kermit power

28,642 posts

213 months

Monday 13th July 2020
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The Mad Monk

10,474 posts

117 months

Monday 13th July 2020
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Kermit power said:
Breaking news!!!!

[url]Sale Sharks have signed a contract to provide medical and rehab services to Manu Tuilagi until the end of next season!|https://www.salesharks.com/2020/07/13/sale-sharks-sign-manu-tuilagi/?fbclid=IwAR2YuahactIhoZtiBxWALhJ0SyBt6Z9S91GPP3p71YhB4tl9rkp4opRsQUM
Have you never heard of tiny.url?

Zirconia

36,010 posts

284 months

Monday 13th July 2020
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Kermit power said:
Zirconia said:
I assume cos pop up hospital is still a requirement but Swansea and Cardiff have reasonable capacity, not the same as the Millennium of course but no way would I pay for the ticket and rail fare (with covid) to go to twickers (not cos English, cos freakn expensive). Refuse to pay the existing ticket price anyway.
Bear in mind that Twickenham has a capacity of 80,000 which they reckon will be reduced to 40,000 at 1m social distancing. The Liberty and Cardiff City stadia only have respective capacities of 21,000 and 33,000 to start with.

Even then, I'd question whether there's a metre between each row of seats at Twickenham! I'm only 5'10", and there's not much room between my knees and the back of the person in front of me, and that's before you consider that it's frankly absurd to worry about anyone catching anything at the stadium, compared to the environment of everyone cramming onto trains at Twickenham stadium before and after the games!

I would like to think that the government will apologise for the absurd degree of overreaction to which they'd subjected us and tell us all to get back to normal life before the Autumn Internationals, but if they don't, then I don't see how playing games in front of a crowd at Twickenham is a viable prospect either?
I know the capacities, but try getting a decent priced ticket even for an autumn international, that a'holes on the ticket scalping cheating tout sites put paid to that. Stick on another pita train journey to the big smoke then back out from Paddington and its not really worth it for my money, no matter the distancing.

Rather a limited one off autumn where I could if I I could get a 40 quid ticket.


irocfan

40,389 posts

190 months

Monday 13th July 2020
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Kermit power said:
Breaking news!!!!

[url]Sale Sharks have signed a contract to provide medical and rehab services to Manu Tuilagi until the end of next season!|https://www.salesharks.com/2020/07/13/sale-sharks-sign-manu-tuilagi/?fbclid=IwAR2YuahactIhoZtiBxWALhJ0SyBt6Z9S91GPP3p71YhB4tl9rkp4opRsQUM
well Diamond denied contact so it was inevitable I guess hehe Certainly seems to have a knack for turning around 'bad boys'