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irocfan said:
Bizarre! What is going on over there these days...? Dean Richard's next visit will be interesting: I heard that all reference to him had been removed from Welford in some sort of soviet era eradication of history. Very odd.The Premiership in line for a new owner?
It was in The Times today. Now on BBC: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/45417946
CVC did nothing for F1, apart from reputedly reduce its value.
Nothing has been said about what changes they could make although The Times suggests problems with releasing players for internationals.
Still, we can depend on the good sense of the RFU not to make a mess of things.
It was in The Times today. Now on BBC: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/45417946
CVC did nothing for F1, apart from reputedly reduce its value.
Nothing has been said about what changes they could make although The Times suggests problems with releasing players for internationals.
Still, we can depend on the good sense of the RFU not to make a mess of things.
Showboating tosser Ashton's ban has been pushed back a week, meaning he won't play again until after England's autumn international squad has been named. Oh dear, what a shame.
Derek Smith said:
The Premiership in line for a new owner?
It was in The Times today. Now on BBC: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/45417946
CVC did nothing for F1, apart from reputedly reduce its value.
Nothing has been said about what changes they could make although The Times suggests problems with releasing players for internationals.
Still, we can depend on the good sense of the RFU not to make a mess of things.
Is it the RFU that decides?It was in The Times today. Now on BBC: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/45417946
CVC did nothing for F1, apart from reputedly reduce its value.
Nothing has been said about what changes they could make although The Times suggests problems with releasing players for internationals.
Still, we can depend on the good sense of the RFU not to make a mess of things.
The Mad Monk said:
Derek Smith said:
The Premiership in line for a new owner?
It was in The Times today. Now on BBC: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/45417946
CVC did nothing for F1, apart from reputedly reduce its value.
Nothing has been said about what changes they could make although The Times suggests problems with releasing players for internationals.
Still, we can depend on the good sense of the RFU not to make a mess of things.
Is it the RFU that decides?It was in The Times today. Now on BBC: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/45417946
CVC did nothing for F1, apart from reputedly reduce its value.
Nothing has been said about what changes they could make although The Times suggests problems with releasing players for internationals.
Still, we can depend on the good sense of the RFU not to make a mess of things.
However, I assume that the Premiership clubs have a high degree of say in the matter. They could want to opt for CVC but could not take the Premiership with them, nor the lower divisions. Then again, the clubs will want to take the RFU with them, very much in the way that the F1 teams could threaten but the infrastructure that would be lost if they went elsewhere gave the FIA/CVC a great deal of authority.
Practically, the RFU can't impose against the will of the clubs so it it a round table discussion. But the RFU has a high degree of power.
The clubs will be selfish of course. If the CVC brings money . . .
Derek Smith said:
The Mad Monk said:
Derek Smith said:
The Premiership in line for a new owner?
It was in The Times today. Now on BBC: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/45417946
CVC did nothing for F1, apart from reputedly reduce its value.
Nothing has been said about what changes they could make although The Times suggests problems with releasing players for internationals.
Still, we can depend on the good sense of the RFU not to make a mess of things.
Is it the RFU that decides?It was in The Times today. Now on BBC: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/45417946
CVC did nothing for F1, apart from reputedly reduce its value.
Nothing has been said about what changes they could make although The Times suggests problems with releasing players for internationals.
Still, we can depend on the good sense of the RFU not to make a mess of things.
However, I assume that the Premiership clubs have a high degree of say in the matter. They could want to opt for CVC but could not take the Premiership with them, nor the lower divisions. Then again, the clubs will want to take the RFU with them, very much in the way that the F1 teams could threaten but the infrastructure that would be lost if they went elsewhere gave the FIA/CVC a great deal of authority.
Practically, the RFU can't impose against the will of the clubs so it it a round table discussion. But the RFU has a high degree of power.
The clubs will be selfish of course. If the CVC brings money . . .
Surely it's the clubs? The thirteen shareholders of Premiership Rugby Limited are the current premiership clubs and London Irish. As I understand it, that has always been one of the reasons that ring-fencing has never come to pass - unless one of the clubs goes out of business, one would always be outside the fence when it was introduced, so would veto any such plan.
Kermit power said:
Blimey!
Just noticed that Bristol were holding Sarries at 18 all after 48 minutes!
I suspect that's as good as it's going to get for them this afternoon though, with George Smith sent off.
We were winning at half time. Final whistle came 40 minutes too late. Some dubious decisions by the ref, but hey ho, onwards and upwards.Just noticed that Bristol were holding Sarries at 18 all after 48 minutes!
I suspect that's as good as it's going to get for them this afternoon though, with George Smith sent off.
Kermit power said:
Derek Smith said:
The Mad Monk said:
Derek Smith said:
The Premiership in line for a new owner?
It was in The Times today. Now on BBC: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/45417946
CVC did nothing for F1, apart from reputedly reduce its value.
Nothing has been said about what changes they could make although The Times suggests problems with releasing players for internationals.
Still, we can depend on the good sense of the RFU not to make a mess of things.
Is it the RFU that decides?It was in The Times today. Now on BBC: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/45417946
CVC did nothing for F1, apart from reputedly reduce its value.
Nothing has been said about what changes they could make although The Times suggests problems with releasing players for internationals.
Still, we can depend on the good sense of the RFU not to make a mess of things.
However, I assume that the Premiership clubs have a high degree of say in the matter. They could want to opt for CVC but could not take the Premiership with them, nor the lower divisions. Then again, the clubs will want to take the RFU with them, very much in the way that the F1 teams could threaten but the infrastructure that would be lost if they went elsewhere gave the FIA/CVC a great deal of authority.
Practically, the RFU can't impose against the will of the clubs so it it a round table discussion. But the RFU has a high degree of power.
The clubs will be selfish of course. If the CVC brings money . . .
Surely it's the clubs? The thirteen shareholders of Premiership Rugby Limited are the current premiership clubs and London Irish. As I understand it, that has always been one of the reasons that ring-fencing has never come to pass - unless one of the clubs goes out of business, one would always be outside the fence when it was introduced, so would veto any such plan.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/45490184
Good, they've obviously seen how CVC / Bernie gouged all the money from F1 and put nothing back.
XCP said:
Kermit power said:
Blimey!
Just noticed that Bristol were holding Sarries at 18 all after 48 minutes!
I suspect that's as good as it's going to get for them this afternoon though, with George Smith sent off.
We were winning at half time. Final whistle came 40 minutes too late. Some dubious decisions by the ref, but hey ho, onwards and upwards.Just noticed that Bristol were holding Sarries at 18 all after 48 minutes!
I suspect that's as good as it's going to get for them this afternoon though, with George Smith sent off.
Kermit power said:
Wow! That's rather hung the ref out to dry, surely?
If Bristol do end up getting relegated, and it's by 4 points or fewer, how much will that decision have cost the club financially?
deep down I doubt if Bris would have beaten Sarries even with Smith on the field. We might well have got a bonus point though. Hopefully at the end of the season it won't matter. We are in much better shape than 2 years ago. Another derby with Glos on Friday!If Bristol do end up getting relegated, and it's by 4 points or fewer, how much will that decision have cost the club financially?
Kermit power said:
Surely it's the clubs? The thirteen shareholders of Premiership Rugby Limited are the current premiership clubs and London Irish. As I understand it, that has always been one of the reasons that ring-fencing has never come to pass - unless one of the clubs goes out of business, one would always be outside the fence when it was introduced, so would veto any such plan.
That's why when they talk of ring fencing, it often talks of there then being 14 Premiership clubs. That'll be all the 13 clubs with p shares and one other. Hoping that carrot will get the one Championship p share holding club also voting for it.Gassing Station | Sports | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff