Six Nations 2018

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Stella Tortoise

2,615 posts

142 months

Saturday 24th February 2018
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As soon as I saw who was refereeing it was obvious that an English supporter would come to the gormless conclusion.

There it is.

No offence BTW, it's the conclusion that's at fault not the person.

SFV

467 posts

266 months

Saturday 24th February 2018
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Wow! Great match. The Huw Jones 2nd try for Scotland was the best so far of the 6 Nations imo - speed, then pure determination to get those last few metres against all odds. Proud day for Scotland to beat one of the best teams in the world, doesn't happen often.

Bonefish Blues

26,447 posts

222 months

Saturday 24th February 2018
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Well played Scotland. How many balls did they steal at the breakdown?

Ikobo

511 posts

148 months

Saturday 24th February 2018
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As a Scot working in England mon-fri, I've taken a lot of stick for saying to my English workmates this would happen at Murrayfield this year after our recent form. (Though to be fair I thought I'd maybe stuck my foot in my mouth after the Welsh game) I can't say I'm going to be upset walking in to work when I fly down Monday morning. Definitely a few get out of jail free moments, but I do genuinely feel it was a deserved win. Huw Jones on his day is just a pleasure to watch, and despite a nervy second half I think we gave a decent show, but in all fairness England weren't at their best. I have no doubt we'll take a huge pumping in Ireland in a fortnight, but I'll bask in this win while it lasts.

CharlesdeGaulle

26,091 posts

179 months

Saturday 24th February 2018
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All credit to Scotland, they played with skill and real heart, but England were pretty dire. I want to say that Scotland forced those errors and bossed the game but, despite their assured play today, I suspect that Ireland will expose Scotland once again.

abzmike

8,241 posts

105 months

Saturday 24th February 2018
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Ikobo said:
As a Scot working in England mon-fri, I've taken a lot of stick for saying to my English workmates this would happen at Murrayfield this year after our recent form. (Though to be fair I thought I'd maybe stuck my foot in my mouth after the Welsh game) I can't say I'm going to be upset walking in to work when I fly down Monday morning. Definitely a few get out of jail free moments, but I do genuinely feel it was a deserved win. Huw Jones on his day is just a pleasure to watch, and despite a nervy second half I think we gave a decent show, but in all fairness England weren't at their best. I have no doubt we'll take a huge pumping in Ireland in a fortnight, but I'll bask in this win while it lasts.
I’ve been in your position, and days like Monday will be don’t come round very often. Enjoy!

DocJock

8,341 posts

239 months

Saturday 24th February 2018
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I'm just disappointed that Scotland didn't manage a bonus point...

Joey Ramone

2,150 posts

124 months

Saturday 24th February 2018
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How much longer will we have to put up with the woeful embarrassment that is England in the Six Nations?biggrin

epom

11,398 posts

160 months

Saturday 24th February 2018
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Great results all round today smile

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

197 months

Saturday 24th February 2018
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What a day of sport

Sadly Ladies lost Curling
Sadly Wales lost a match they came back to sneak
Scotland played a blinder
Reading drew 3-3 to Derby


Derek Smith

45,514 posts

247 months

Saturday 24th February 2018
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My TV is working. The problem was the controller. A piece of rubbish got caught in one of the buttons. Given the rubbish way England played I suppose it is apt.

I assume the Scots seemed a bit happy with their win? Sorry, really sorry, I missed their enjoyment. I see that I missed the final England phases, but the match was over when the TV went blank.

Just the Irish to play now.


The Mad Monk

10,474 posts

116 months

Saturday 24th February 2018
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Derek Smith said:
Just the Irish to play now.
What about France?

Kermit power

28,634 posts

212 months

Saturday 24th February 2018
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Stella Tortoise said:
I've seen England play far worse than that.
Not for a good few years though! They were utterly dreadful today.

God only knows how they find any positives at all from that.

Kermit power

28,634 posts

212 months

Saturday 24th February 2018
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Joey Ramone said:
How much longer will we have to put up with the woeful embarrassment that is England in the Six Nations?biggrin
Remind me again how many matches Italy have won in 18 miserable years of trying? How long they've been languishing behind Georgia in the world rankings?

They've had almost two decades to press on and bring themselves up to a decent level. They've failed woefully, and just devalue the tournament by their presence in it.

Hardly the same as England putting in a woeful performance today, is it?

silverthorn2151

6,298 posts

178 months

Saturday 24th February 2018
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Perhaps starting a few regulars on the bench might liven up their enthusiasm.

But then, today they all deserved time on the bench, so who knows!

paul789

3,676 posts

103 months

Saturday 24th February 2018
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No complaints with the result and congrats to Scotland.

Total BS of course, but I turned over when the score was 3-0 down and I just sensed within a few seconds that we’d lose. Not superstitious in anyway, but England games sometimes just ‘feel’ immediately like guaranteed cowpats. Happily a rare occurrence in the last few years.

NRS

22,079 posts

200 months

Saturday 24th February 2018
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abzmike said:
schmalex said:
It had absolutely nothing to do with Owens.

Both England tries were as a result of fouls and we were comprehensively outplayed by Scotland until about the 72nd minute.

Scotland absolutely deserves that victory
Yup, and the yellow card was a yellow card all day long. If he had stayed on, could easily have been a different result.
That's one of the great things about rugby - generally fans are much more honest than at football. Much easier to discuss after when both sets of fans recognise what actually happened for the most part.

Mixed weekend.

Curling bad
Wales bad
Scotland fantastic
Liverpool fantastic

Joey Ramone

2,150 posts

124 months

Sunday 25th February 2018
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paul789 said:
No complaints with the result and congrats to Scotland.

Total BS of course, but I turned over when the score was 3-0 down and I just sensed within a few seconds that we’d lose. Not superstitious in anyway, but England games sometimes just ‘feel’ immediately like guaranteed cowpats. Happily a rare occurrence in the last few years.
I agree. Very much like the Ireland game last year.

In retrospect, this game might put England's chances at the World Cup in perspective. Italy looked like an easy win but the vast majority of that winning margin came in the last 10 mins. Wales looked far more enterprising with ball in hand and let England off the hook twice. Could easily have won. And Scotland just blew them off the park. If Ireland win at HQ then the alarm bells will start ringing

When they're good, they're good. But they are also fragile mentally, quite robotic in attack and, when play breaks up, extremely porous in defence. Not a recipe for World Cup success. And that back row is just not where it needs to be at by this stage. Robshaw still isn't a 7 but he's probably the mentally toughest of the lot so needs to be there, Hughes dips in and out of games too easily, Underhill and Simmonds are still very green. Lawes should be in the second row.

Derek Smith

45,514 posts

247 months

Sunday 25th February 2018
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It didn't happen, right? It was a mistake. The best team in the NH, with a defence that is impermeable and some brilliant players didn't lose to the only team in the 6N that wants Italy to stay in.

It was a nightmare, wasn't it?


Derek Smith

45,514 posts

247 months

Sunday 25th February 2018
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Joey Ramone said:
I agree. Very much like the Ireland game last year.

In retrospect, this game might put England's chances at the World Cup in perspective. Italy looked like an easy win but the vast majority of that winning margin came in the last 10 mins. Wales looked far more enterprising with ball in hand and let England off the hook twice. Could easily have won. And Scotland just blew them off the park. If Ireland win at HQ then the alarm bells will start ringing

When they're good, they're good. But they are also fragile mentally, quite robotic in attack and, when play breaks up, extremely porous in defence. Not a recipe for World Cup success. And that back row is just not where it needs to be at by this stage. Robshaw still isn't a 7 but he's probably the mentally toughest of the lot so needs to be there, Hughes dips in and out of games too easily, Underhill and Simmonds are still very green. Lawes should be in the second row.
Let's not over-react. It's one match. The biggest winning streak has only recently ended and the record in the 6N has been, let's face it, almost identical to Italy's but in reverse.

We've got a great coach, we have strength in depth that must be the envy of the rest of the 6N. Our front 5 put in a superb performance and our second row is world class. We need tweaking but then doesn't every team.

We lost. It's no big deal. Discover why and change.

The worst thing that could happen in the 6N is to have an unbeatable team, even England. The worst thing that can happen to the best team in the NH is to be unbeaten.

It's one game is all.

It was an exciting match.