Judo- what do I need to know?

Judo- what do I need to know?

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Sa Calobra

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37,119 posts

211 months

Saturday 15th September 2018
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First time ever this Monday. I'm older than the hills, will I die, any tips? Any improvements it'll make?

It's been recommended through work hence why I'm going..

ApOrbital

9,959 posts

118 months

Saturday 15th September 2018
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Just relax and enjoy it,I've been doing judo since I was 5 years old now in my 40s.

grumpy52

5,577 posts

166 months

Saturday 15th September 2018
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It will scare the dodah out of you when a 12 year old sweet little thing throws you all over the mats !
It's all in the mind , get the mind right and everything else is possible .

Sa Calobra

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37,119 posts

211 months

Saturday 15th September 2018
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When you say mind, a positive mindset?

ST Ford

291 posts

82 months

Saturday 15th September 2018
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What you need to know is it’s the most useless martial art in real world situations so if your doing it to learn how to protect yourself then go and do Boxing, Kickboxing, Muay Thai, Karate, Tae Kwan do, jujitsu or catch wrestling instead

Sa Calobra

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37,119 posts

211 months

Saturday 15th September 2018
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I can punch, Ive been taught defence etc. I did all the Karate stuff for 9yrs when I was young. The hitting bit isn't what I'm looking for. Where I am lacking is takedown and groundwork.


ST Ford

291 posts

82 months

Saturday 15th September 2018
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Why are u expecting to get into a full MMA fight in the streets or something? needing stand up and a ground game lol. Being able to punch is not the same as going to a boxing club 2-3 times per week and working on your speed and timing etc. Most fights you will ever end up in will be some drunk in a bar throwing windmills at you up close. 1 or 2 good punches on the jaw soon ends that.

glazbagun

14,279 posts

197 months

Saturday 15th September 2018
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Never did Judo but did a couple of years of Jujitsu and know a few judoka. Main advice I would give is to eat well and sleep well so you don't get sloppy during a class after work, it's like learning to dance whilst doing a cardio workout and being picked up and dropped on the floor.

You will be thrown to the floor *a lot* so really master breakfalling. My shoulder still irks me on occasion from where I would just get sloppy. Other than that, enjoy. It's a load of fun!

Re- the best martial art for self defence I'd say ignore them all and get really good at 1-500M sprints, nothing's going to beat a knife.


PositronicRay

27,010 posts

183 months

Saturday 15th September 2018
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Sa Calobra said:
First time ever this Monday. I'm older than the hills, will I die, any tips? Any improvements it'll make?

It's been recommended through work hence why I'm going..
What do you do for a living that they recommend a martial art?

MC Bodge

21,627 posts

175 months

Saturday 15th September 2018
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glazbagun said:
Re- the best martial art for self defence I'd say ignore them all and get really good at 1-500M sprints, nothing's going to beat a knife.
Firstly, spotting/avoiding grief is the very best tactic, and failing that, being able to fend/push somebody off/wriggle out of a situation and running away -hence rugby being a good start.

Sa Calobra

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37,119 posts

211 months

Saturday 15th September 2018
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PositronicRay said:
What do you do for a living that they recommend a martial art?
Policing

Sa Calobra

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37,119 posts

211 months

Saturday 15th September 2018
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Touching grappling and throws is what I need.

Plus something else physical additional to cycling.

MC Bodge

21,627 posts

175 months

Saturday 15th September 2018
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Sa Calobra said:
Touching grappling and throws is what I need.

Plus something else physical additional to cycling.
How old are you? It will be good to hear how you get on.

Jag_NE

2,975 posts

100 months

Saturday 15th September 2018
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My son and I started karate as a hobby we could do together and progress at a similar pace. Most sports are very age group specific so karate appealed. We quite enjoy it but I’m convinced that you would need absolutely years of training for it to make you much tougher in a fight situation. Just enjoy the exercise and social aspect.

MC Bodge

21,627 posts

175 months

Saturday 15th September 2018
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Jag_NE said:
My son and I started karate as a hobby we could do together and progress at a similar pace. Most sports are very age group specific so karate appealed. We quite enjoy it but I’m convinced that you would need absolutely years of training for it to make you much tougher in a fight situation. Just enjoy the exercise and social aspect.
I've always thought that about karate.

Boxing & wrestling (and rugby) far more effective preparation for physical confrontations, I'd say.

ST Ford

291 posts

82 months

Saturday 15th September 2018
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MC Bodge said:
I've always thought that about karate.

Boxing & wrestling (and rugby) far more effective preparation for physical confrontations, I'd say.
You have obviously never tried kyokushin karate then that’s brutal and actually strengthens your limbs so your forearms and shins are like hitting someone with a led pipe. There used to be a tv show called fight quest where 2 guys one MMA fighter and one boxer travelled to different countries trying different martial arts for a few weeks and they said the Kyokushin karate in Japan was the hardest training out of them all.
Like any form of contact sport it takes years of serious training to be able to knock your average joe clean out in a street fight without getting hurt. Especially martial arts that involve kicking it takes years to get enough flexibility and technique to knock someone out with a kick.

Tony Angelino

1,972 posts

113 months

Saturday 15th September 2018
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Just relax, I'm new to BJJ (or at least was 18 months ago) approaching 40. First few sessions I treated as a fight to the death, you soon learn that you'll gas out far, far less quickly if you relax and don't go mental.

Ignore everybody who'll tell you that X,Y or Z are far more useful 'on the streets' like you've seen above already - there's nowt wrong with doing something you find interesting that burns a few calories and lets you make a load of good new mates.

dangerousB

1,697 posts

190 months

Saturday 15th September 2018
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Do enough of it and judo is excellent for teaching you balance on your feet, feel for your opponents balance and situational awareness on the ground. It's excellent for fitness - it was a regular thing where we were matched against lighter opponents and "winner stays on" or heavier opponents and "loser stays on", until that is you simply couldn't carry on! I'd highly recommend it, although be prepared to find injuries are easy to come by.

For groundwork and take downs, I'd also have a look at BJJ - not done myself, but it has a good reputation.

Aside from judo, my personal favourite is Kung Fu (I studied Wing Chun), the most absorbing martial art I've ever experienced. More for stand-up really, but fascinating to learn - it takes about 12 months just to get your head around the style of movement, many more years to obtain any sort of proficiency in it. Very flowing and balletic with exceptionally fast hand speed - watching a good practitioner is mesmerising!

MC Bodge

21,627 posts

175 months

Saturday 15th September 2018
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ST Ford said:
MC Bodge said:
I've always thought that about karate.

Boxing & wrestling (and rugby) far more effective preparation for physical confrontations, I'd say.
You have obviously never tried kyokushin karate then that’s brutal and actually strengthens your limbs so your forearms and shins are like hitting someone with a led pipe. There used to be a tv show called fight quest where 2 guys one MMA fighter and one boxer travelled to different countries trying different martial arts for a few weeks and they said the Kyokushin karate in Japan was the hardest training out of them all.
Like any form of contact sport it takes years of serious training to be able to knock your average joe clean out in a street fight without getting hurt. Especially martial arts that involve kicking it takes years to get enough flexibility and technique to knock someone out with a kick.
It all gets bit "my Dad/style is harder than your Dad", doesn't it?

Hard training at whatever style is hard training, and will probably knacker your body in later life if the training is brutal enough.

Anyway, it's a mindset. A skilled practitioner isn't necessarily streetwise or mad/psychotic enough to be a good brawler. And who really wants to be?

Good physical conditioning and ability to be useful is desirable and the actual fighting bit is just a part of it. Is spending years learning how to knock somebody out with a kick in the street actually a good use of time?

Edited by MC Bodge on Saturday 15th September 16:53

MYOB

4,784 posts

138 months

Saturday 15th September 2018
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ST Ford said:
What you need to know is it’s the most useless martial art in real world situations
Not sure I agree with this. I've found my Judo skills extremely useful as a form of self defence on many occasions in my younger days. In terms of attacking, no it's not the best but I'm a defender, not an attacker...;)