Mixed Martial Arts Training Thread (Not UFC etc...)

Mixed Martial Arts Training Thread (Not UFC etc...)

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MC Bodge

21,551 posts

174 months

Saturday 12th January 2019
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Hoofy said:
I think I'm in decent shape, well, for a 46 year old! (See other threads on training etc.)

I need to work on my rolls/breakfalls etc. Half the time, I end up causing more damage to myself than my opponent. silly
The most difficult thing is to try to relax when you know you are going over/down. The natural response is to try resisting, but it then hurts more... It didn't seem to be a problem when I was a teenager...

Training-wise, (outdoor) boot camp style exercises, lifting awkward heavy objects and off road running/scrambling over rough terrain seem better than purely gym based single plane of motion exercises.


Hoofy

76,253 posts

281 months

Sunday 13th January 2019
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MC Bodge said:
Hoofy said:
I think I'm in decent shape, well, for a 46 year old! (See other threads on training etc.)

I need to work on my rolls/breakfalls etc. Half the time, I end up causing more damage to myself than my opponent. silly
The most difficult thing is to try to relax when you know you are going over/down. The natural response is to try resisting, but it then hurts more... It didn't seem to be a problem when I was a teenager...
Yes! I can sense myself resisting. I just don't like being upside down. biggrin

MC Bodge

21,551 posts

174 months

Monday 14th January 2019
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Hoofy said:
MC Bodge said:
Hoofy said:
I think I'm in decent shape, well, for a 46 year old! (See other threads on training etc.)

I need to work on my rolls/breakfalls etc. Half the time, I end up causing more damage to myself than my opponent. silly
The most difficult thing is to try to relax when you know you are going over/down. The natural response is to try resisting, but it then hurts more... It didn't seem to be a problem when I was a teenager...
Yes! I can sense myself resisting. I just don't like being upside down. biggrin
It just gets easier with practice. A nice sprung floor under the mats would help, but most places don't have these.

I'm currently trying to work out how to close the gap enough to get a good entry for a sweep/reap/throw without telegraphing it slowly.

Higher belts do allow me in, then put me on my backside, and other low belts tend to stiff arm/bend over(which I'm trying to avoid doing myself) which often ends up with me inelegantly dragging them down forwards.

Hoofy

76,253 posts

281 months

Monday 14th January 2019
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MC Bodge said:
Hoofy said:
MC Bodge said:
Hoofy said:
I think I'm in decent shape, well, for a 46 year old! (See other threads on training etc.)

I need to work on my rolls/breakfalls etc. Half the time, I end up causing more damage to myself than my opponent. silly
The most difficult thing is to try to relax when you know you are going over/down. The natural response is to try resisting, but it then hurts more... It didn't seem to be a problem when I was a teenager...
Yes! I can sense myself resisting. I just don't like being upside down. biggrin
It just gets easier with practice. A nice sprung floor under the mats would help, but most places don't have these.

I'm currently trying to work out how to close the gap enough to get a good entry for a sweep/reap/throw without telegraphing it slowly.

Higher belts do allow me in, then put me on my backside, and other low belts tend to stiff arm/bend over(which I'm trying to avoid doing myself) which often ends up with me inelegantly dragging them down forwards.
It's a scout hut so we have mats on top of a concrete floor and the mats move around a fair bit. I smacked my bare ankle against concrete last week. That hurt. The teacher demonstrated that if you roll properly, you don't need mats. I do remember doing rolls on concrete in the past (but that was about 30 years ago wink ).

Sounds like you need to trick them into thinking you're going to do the opposite or something different so they set themselves up. When I do sticky hands or pushing hands, I often do this as you can't just go in with strength unless you want that strength used against you.

MC Bodge

21,551 posts

174 months

Monday 14th January 2019
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Hoofy said:
Sounds like you need to trick them into thinking you're going to do the opposite or something different so they set themselves up. When I do sticky hands or pushing hands, I often do this as you can't just go in with strength unless you want that strength used against you.
That's exactly what I need to do.

Easy in theory, yes, difficult in practice when they are trying to do the same thing, and often have years/decades more experience of Judo randori -randori is superb and what was missing in the "Japanese" (British) Ju Jitsu I did as a youngster.

It is enjoyable, though, and I am improving, the learning curve is steep.

The club does lots of ground fighting too, not just a few seconds of post-throw pinning, which is good.



Edited by MC Bodge on Monday 14th January 20:02

Hoofy

76,253 posts

281 months

Monday 14th January 2019
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MC Bodge said:
Hoofy said:
Sounds like you need to trick them into thinking you're going to do the opposite or something different so they set themselves up. When I do sticky hands or pushing hands, I often do this as you can't just go in with strength unless you want that strength used against you.
That's exactly what I need to do.

Easy in theory, yes, difficult in practice when they are trying to do the same thing, and often have years/decades more experience of Judo randori -randori is superb and what was missing in the "Japanese" (British) Ju Jitsu I did as a youngster.

It is enjoyable, though, and I am improving, the learning curve is steep.

The club does lots of ground fighting too, not just a few seconds of post-throw pinning, which is good.



Edited by MC Bodge on Monday 14th January 20:02
That's what makes it fun - when both people are trying to outwit each other.

Close your eyes. Use your other senses. biggrin

MC Bodge

21,551 posts

174 months

Tuesday 15th January 2019
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Hoofy said:
That's what makes it fun - when both people are trying to outwit each other.

Close your eyes. Use your other senses. biggrin
Randori by smell wasn't too successful. I'll try sound next time.

Hoofy

76,253 posts

281 months

Tuesday 15th January 2019
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MC Bodge said:
Hoofy said:
That's what makes it fun - when both people are trying to outwit each other.

Close your eyes. Use your other senses. biggrin
Randori by smell wasn't too successful. I'll try sound next time.
biggrin Try your sense of touch. Feel where they're strong and weak in that moment, use it to your advantage.

MC Bodge

21,551 posts

174 months

Tuesday 15th January 2019
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Hoofy said:
biggrin Try your sense of touch. Feel where they're strong and weak in that moment, use it to your advantage.
Ah, that was what you meant? wink

Easily said... It takes a lot of practice when you are going at full speed with resistance.

Hoofy

76,253 posts

281 months

Tuesday 15th January 2019
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MC Bodge said:
Hoofy said:
biggrin Try your sense of touch. Feel where they're strong and weak in that moment, use it to your advantage.
Ah, that was what you meant? wink

Easily said... It takes a lot of practice when you are going at full speed with resistance.
Of course, so start practising!

j_4m

1,574 posts

63 months

Wednesday 16th January 2019
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Has anyone tried Diamond MMA cups? They're a bit pricey, but my current RDX one is getting a bit frayed and has only been about 50% successful in ball protection.

MC Bodge

21,551 posts

174 months

Wednesday 16th January 2019
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Hoofy said:
MC Bodge said:
Hoofy said:
biggrin Try your sense of touch. Feel where they're strong and weak in that moment, use it to your advantage.
Ah, that was what you meant? wink

Easily said... It takes a lot of practice when you are going at full speed with resistance.
Of course, so start practising!
You must be some sort of visionary. You could charge for your sage advice wink

ben5575

6,215 posts

220 months

Wednesday 16th January 2019
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I haven't used the one you mention, I use the Jaco/Tenacity Guardian system which I find work really well and offer good protection and movement: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Tenacity-Jaco-Guardian-...

Hoofy

76,253 posts

281 months

Wednesday 16th January 2019
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MC Bodge said:
Hoofy said:
MC Bodge said:
Hoofy said:
biggrin Try your sense of touch. Feel where they're strong and weak in that moment, use it to your advantage.
Ah, that was what you meant? wink

Easily said... It takes a lot of practice when you are going at full speed with resistance.
Of course, so start practising!
You must be some sort of visionary. You could charge for your sage advice wink
Well, I do already charge for that training. wink

j_4m

1,574 posts

63 months

Thursday 17th January 2019
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ben5575 said:
I haven't used the one you mention, I use the Jaco/Tenacity Guardian system which I find work really well and offer good protection and movement: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Tenacity-Jaco-Guardian-...
Hmm, my only issue with the compression short type is the shorts themselves needing to be washed every session. I feel like a jockstrap could last at least two or three sessions between washes.

ben5575

6,215 posts

220 months

Thursday 17th January 2019
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Remind me not to train with you.... smile

MC Bodge

21,551 posts

174 months

Thursday 17th January 2019
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j_4m said:
Hmm, my only issue with the compression short type is the shorts themselves needing to be washed every session. I feel like a jockstrap could last at least two or three sessions between washes.
Don't you turn It inside out to get another 2 or 3 sessions out of it?

Yuck.

Hoofy

76,253 posts

281 months

Thursday 17th January 2019
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hehe Can last a lot longer if you lick it clean after every session.

popeyewhite

19,622 posts

119 months

Thursday 17th January 2019
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When I started training in kickboxing we all wore a type of modified heavy cotton Gi that were all the fashion at the time. Being a young bloke I never washed it. Being very competitive I sweated a lot. A few months later someone asked me what was staining the back of my uniform. I took a look at the large black stain that covered the area from shoulder blades to lower back and realised it was mould. hehe

MC Bodge

21,551 posts

174 months

Sunday 20th January 2019
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Getting my grips is improving, as is footwork, getting closer and spotting opportunities for my myself and my opponent.

I need to try to relax more as I'm still relying on strength too much and apparently making it obvious when I'm about to attack.