Mixed Martial Arts Training Thread (Not UFC etc...)
Discussion
Hoofy said:
I think I'm in decent shape, well, for a 46 year old! (See other threads on training etc.)
I need to work on my rolls/breakfalls etc. Half the time, I end up causing more damage to myself than my opponent.
The most difficult thing is to try to relax when you know you are going over/down. The natural response is to try resisting, but it then hurts more... It didn't seem to be a problem when I was a teenager...I need to work on my rolls/breakfalls etc. Half the time, I end up causing more damage to myself than my opponent.
Training-wise, (outdoor) boot camp style exercises, lifting awkward heavy objects and off road running/scrambling over rough terrain seem better than purely gym based single plane of motion exercises.
MC Bodge said:
Hoofy said:
I think I'm in decent shape, well, for a 46 year old! (See other threads on training etc.)
I need to work on my rolls/breakfalls etc. Half the time, I end up causing more damage to myself than my opponent.
The most difficult thing is to try to relax when you know you are going over/down. The natural response is to try resisting, but it then hurts more... It didn't seem to be a problem when I was a teenager...I need to work on my rolls/breakfalls etc. Half the time, I end up causing more damage to myself than my opponent.
Hoofy said:
MC Bodge said:
Hoofy said:
I think I'm in decent shape, well, for a 46 year old! (See other threads on training etc.)
I need to work on my rolls/breakfalls etc. Half the time, I end up causing more damage to myself than my opponent.
The most difficult thing is to try to relax when you know you are going over/down. The natural response is to try resisting, but it then hurts more... It didn't seem to be a problem when I was a teenager...I need to work on my rolls/breakfalls etc. Half the time, I end up causing more damage to myself than my opponent.
I'm currently trying to work out how to close the gap enough to get a good entry for a sweep/reap/throw without telegraphing it slowly.
Higher belts do allow me in, then put me on my backside, and other low belts tend to stiff arm/bend over(which I'm trying to avoid doing myself) which often ends up with me inelegantly dragging them down forwards.
MC Bodge said:
Hoofy said:
MC Bodge said:
Hoofy said:
I think I'm in decent shape, well, for a 46 year old! (See other threads on training etc.)
I need to work on my rolls/breakfalls etc. Half the time, I end up causing more damage to myself than my opponent.
The most difficult thing is to try to relax when you know you are going over/down. The natural response is to try resisting, but it then hurts more... It didn't seem to be a problem when I was a teenager...I need to work on my rolls/breakfalls etc. Half the time, I end up causing more damage to myself than my opponent.
I'm currently trying to work out how to close the gap enough to get a good entry for a sweep/reap/throw without telegraphing it slowly.
Higher belts do allow me in, then put me on my backside, and other low belts tend to stiff arm/bend over(which I'm trying to avoid doing myself) which often ends up with me inelegantly dragging them down forwards.
Sounds like you need to trick them into thinking you're going to do the opposite or something different so they set themselves up. When I do sticky hands or pushing hands, I often do this as you can't just go in with strength unless you want that strength used against you.
Hoofy said:
Sounds like you need to trick them into thinking you're going to do the opposite or something different so they set themselves up. When I do sticky hands or pushing hands, I often do this as you can't just go in with strength unless you want that strength used against you.
That's exactly what I need to do. Easy in theory, yes, difficult in practice when they are trying to do the same thing, and often have years/decades more experience of Judo randori -randori is superb and what was missing in the "Japanese" (British) Ju Jitsu I did as a youngster.
It is enjoyable, though, and I am improving, the learning curve is steep.
The club does lots of ground fighting too, not just a few seconds of post-throw pinning, which is good.
Edited by MC Bodge on Monday 14th January 20:02
MC Bodge said:
Hoofy said:
Sounds like you need to trick them into thinking you're going to do the opposite or something different so they set themselves up. When I do sticky hands or pushing hands, I often do this as you can't just go in with strength unless you want that strength used against you.
That's exactly what I need to do. Easy in theory, yes, difficult in practice when they are trying to do the same thing, and often have years/decades more experience of Judo randori -randori is superb and what was missing in the "Japanese" (British) Ju Jitsu I did as a youngster.
It is enjoyable, though, and I am improving, the learning curve is steep.
The club does lots of ground fighting too, not just a few seconds of post-throw pinning, which is good.
Edited by MC Bodge on Monday 14th January 20:02
Close your eyes. Use your other senses.
MC Bodge said:
Hoofy said:
That's what makes it fun - when both people are trying to outwit each other.
Close your eyes. Use your other senses.
Randori by smell wasn't too successful. I'll try sound next time.Close your eyes. Use your other senses.
Hoofy said:
MC Bodge said:
Hoofy said:
Try your sense of touch. Feel where they're strong and weak in that moment, use it to your advantage.
Ah, that was what you meant? Easily said... It takes a lot of practice when you are going at full speed with resistance.
I haven't used the one you mention, I use the Jaco/Tenacity Guardian system which I find work really well and offer good protection and movement: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Tenacity-Jaco-Guardian-...
MC Bodge said:
Hoofy said:
MC Bodge said:
Hoofy said:
Try your sense of touch. Feel where they're strong and weak in that moment, use it to your advantage.
Ah, that was what you meant? Easily said... It takes a lot of practice when you are going at full speed with resistance.
ben5575 said:
I haven't used the one you mention, I use the Jaco/Tenacity Guardian system which I find work really well and offer good protection and movement: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Tenacity-Jaco-Guardian-...
Hmm, my only issue with the compression short type is the shorts themselves needing to be washed every session. I feel like a jockstrap could last at least two or three sessions between washes.When I started training in kickboxing we all wore a type of modified heavy cotton Gi that were all the fashion at the time. Being a young bloke I never washed it. Being very competitive I sweated a lot. A few months later someone asked me what was staining the back of my uniform. I took a look at the large black stain that covered the area from shoulder blades to lower back and realised it was mould.
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