The **BOXING** thread (Vol 3)

The **BOXING** thread (Vol 3)

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EddieSteadyGo

11,920 posts

203 months

Thursday 18th April 2019
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Davos123 said:
I've booked my flights and hotel, but luckily not bought tickets yet. Looks like I'm just having a weekend in NYC.
I was quite interested in going too, as I think it would be an experience at the MSG but my wife wasn't that keen.

The promised "fantastic undercard of Brits vs Yanks" hasn't though materialised yet.

Out of interest, why did you hold off getting the tickets?



EddieSteadyGo

11,920 posts

203 months

Thursday 18th April 2019
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hyphen said:
Unlikely you would think.

No longer a belt holder, original fight was dull and he has lost since and isn't high profile in the USA either. Who wants to watch that.
Nobody. (well, except maybe Kiwis)

pincher

8,558 posts

217 months

Thursday 18th April 2019
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snake_oil said:
Translation: Anyone got any gloves?
Tusc!! Get yourself on the phone

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tuscaneer

7,763 posts

225 months

Thursday 18th April 2019
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pincher said:
snake_oil said:
Translation: Anyone got any gloves?
Tusc!! Get yourself on the phone

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under normal circumstances you guys know i'd drag myself off the couch at the drop of a hat....but unfortunately i just can't get up for this fight... yeah, there's a few trinkets on the line and all that..... but quite frankly its a drop in levels for me. as you all know i've given big joshua a pasting in the past and as such i've got nothing to prove...



LoonyTunes

3,362 posts

75 months

Thursday 18th April 2019
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tuscaneer said:
pincher said:
snake_oil said:
Translation: Anyone got any gloves?
Tusc!! Get yourself on the phone

01277 359900
under normal circumstances you guys know i'd drag myself off the couch at the drop of a hat....but unfortunately i just can't get up for this fight... yeah, there's a few trinkets on the line and all that..... but quite frankly its a drop in levels for me. as you all know i've given big joshua a pasting in the past and as such i've got nothing to prove...
Somebody send me round a box of stims and I'll give it a go...but please, no more viagra...

tuscaneer

7,763 posts

225 months

Thursday 18th April 2019
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tuscaneer said:
pincher said:
snake_oil said:
Translation: Anyone got any gloves?
Tusc!! Get yourself on the phone

01277 359900
under normal circumstances you guys know i'd drag myself off the couch at the drop of a hat....but unfortunately i just can't get up for this fight... yeah, there's a few trinkets on the line and all that..... but quite frankly its a drop in levels for me. as you all know i've given big joshua a pasting in the past and as such i've got nothing to prove...
And here is the proof for the naysayers...





biggrin

tuscaneer

7,763 posts

225 months

Thursday 18th April 2019
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LoonyTunes said:
tuscaneer said:
pincher said:
snake_oil said:
Translation: Anyone got any gloves?
Tusc!! Get yourself on the phone

01277 359900
under normal circumstances you guys know i'd drag myself off the couch at the drop of a hat....but unfortunately i just can't get up for this fight... yeah, there's a few trinkets on the line and all that..... but quite frankly its a drop in levels for me. as you all know i've given big joshua a pasting in the past and as such i've got nothing to prove...
Somebody send me round a box of stims and I'll give it a go...but please, no more viagra...
hehe

theboyfold

10,921 posts

226 months

Thursday 18th April 2019
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ash73 said:
Luis Ortiz would be a good replacement imo, he gave Wilder a good fight.
Is he too high risk? He's a decent fighter and could give AJ trouble at short notice

tuscaneer

7,763 posts

225 months

Thursday 18th April 2019
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looks like ortiz is very much the front runner....andy ruiz jr is set to fight dimitrenko on saturday night but has said he would take the joshua fight....his only loss is that very close one to parker a few years ago and he looks to be a very improved fighter... could be an outside bet..he certainly has big enough balls to jump in

Davos123

5,966 posts

212 months

Thursday 18th April 2019
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Ortiz is a better fight than Miller. Hope it happens

Davos123

5,966 posts

212 months

Thursday 18th April 2019
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EddieSteadyGo said:
I was quite interested in going too, as I think it would be an experience at the MSG but my wife wasn't that keen.

The promised "fantastic undercard of Brits vs Yanks" hasn't though materialised yet.

Out of interest, why did you hold off getting the tickets?
I'm just waiting on a couple of useless friends to decide whether they can come or not and that'll dictate which seats and how many to get. They're nowhere near sold out so not too worried just yet.

hyphen

26,262 posts

90 months

Thursday 18th April 2019
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theboyfold said:
ash73 said:
Luis Ortiz would be a good replacement imo, he gave Wilder a good fight.
Is he too high risk? He's a decent fighter and could give AJ trouble at short notice
Will be offered pennies to fight, plus rematch clause will probably specify back in UK.

Ortiz has power, but AJ should be able to keep him away you would think and Ortiz may run out of steam due to shorter camp.

An exciting match up of it happens.

Robatr0n

12,362 posts

216 months

Thursday 18th April 2019
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Ortiz is a much better fight than Miller but I think AJ comfortably beats Ortiz and stops him in the middle rounds. Wilder regularly gets ouboxed (see Washington, Szpilka, Ortiz and almost Fury) only to win a from behind KO which I think makes Ortiz seem better than he was. I actually rate Ortiz as a great counter puncher as he lands crisp hard combos in return fire but AJ is nowhere near as sloppy as Wilder and wouldn't be open for those same counters.

I think AJ is in a very tough position as Hearn won't want to reschedule the fight date and there are a lot of fighters who are claiming that the camp will be too short or that they want more than Miller's promised purse. Ortiz for example is asking for more than double what Miller was going to get paid.

Whoever the opponent, I think it's hard to apportion any blame on Joshua.

Davos123

5,966 posts

212 months

Thursday 18th April 2019
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Easy to apportion blame on Joshua for not taking a proper fight in the first place TBF

hyphen

26,262 posts

90 months

Thursday 18th April 2019
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It's not blame, it's pointing and laughing!



May work out if they get Ortiz though.

Robatr0n

12,362 posts

216 months

Thursday 18th April 2019
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Davos123 said:
Easy to apportion blame on Joshua for not taking a proper fight in the first place TBF
Yeah I kind of see that. They obviously wanted a fight to break him into the American audience but the problem you have there is that Kownacki, Hunter and Ruiz Jr are not well known and Wilder flat out didn't want the fight. So you're left with Whyte (who himself has been frozen out for way too long) and that fight doesn't really make sense in the U.S. Looking at it from that perspective, Miller was an alright choice but I'd much rather he got in there with Ortiz from the get go.

Gameface

16,565 posts

77 months

Thursday 18th April 2019
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I don't care who he fights, I'm bored of Joshua and all the bullst around him.

theboyfold

10,921 posts

226 months

Thursday 18th April 2019
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Gameface said:
I don't care who he fights, I'm bored of Joshua and all the bullst around him.
I don't understand this position. In my eyes he's caught up in the politics of the H/W division, he doesn't seem to be the person who ducks a challenge. It's those who surround him that create the bullst as you put it.

Look at Wilder and Fury, they are both playing the same game, it's what happens in the sport all the time. I like AJ a lot, and I'm sure given the chance he would be in the ring with the top guys, but I don't think that the politics and everything else will allow it.

Davos123

5,966 posts

212 months

Thursday 18th April 2019
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Robatr0n said:
Wilder flat out didn't want the fight.
I don't know that this is true - he just wanted half the purse.

Amirhussain

11,489 posts

163 months

Thursday 18th April 2019
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Is Audley Harrison still around?
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