The **BOXING** thread (Vol 3)
Discussion
Davos123 said:
How many Wilder fights have you watched? This isn't what he does best at all. What he does best is wait for an opportunity, relying on some rudimentary defence and a good chin, put out a soft jab to hide his right and swings it big and wide.
He did that twice against Fury in the first 2 rounds, landed and it did f*ck all.
Sorry that was my poor English. I meant do what he does best, throw big hard shots BUT this time turn it into a dirtier fight. He did that twice against Fury in the first 2 rounds, landed and it did f*ck all.
He obviously cant out box him, so like people had to do with Mayweather, turn the fight into an up close war and hopefully get a few hard hits in.
Wilder seems very angry about the towel being thrown in as it went against all his instructions to his corner. I've not got a particular view on it but it's interesting that this tradition is still observed and that there is apparently no overrule option that the chap in the ring can exercise.
Blackpuddin said:
Wilder seems very angry about the towel being thrown in as it went against all his instructions to his corner. I've not got a particular view on it but it's interesting that this tradition is still observed and that there is apparently no overrule option that the chap in the ring can exercise.
The reason it’s there is to protect the fighter against himself. All very well saying ‘I’m a warrior’ doesn’t help if you suffer a brain injury. He made himself look foolish tbh. Anyone sane would have put that costume on pre fight, they must have done anyway!? Or, just take it off and wear the mask, if you really must. Still think Mike Tyson did it best. Some of the fights the entrance last longer than the boxer
rosetank said:
The reason it’s there is to protect the fighter against himself. All very well saying ‘I’m a warrior’ doesn’t help if you suffer a brain injury. He made himself look foolish tbh. Anyone sane would have put that costume on pre fight, they must have done anyway!? Or, just take it off and wear the mask, if you really must.
Still think Mike Tyson did it best. Some of the fights the entrance last longer than the boxer
True, Mike Tyson had it right. Black shorts, torn towel, quick combo and then back to the dressing room. I loved his brutally simplistic approach. Still think Mike Tyson did it best. Some of the fights the entrance last longer than the boxer
Blackpuddin said:
Wilder seems very angry about the towel being thrown in as it went against all his instructions to his corner. I've not got a particular view on it but it's interesting that this tradition is still observed and that there is apparently no overrule option that the chap in the ring can exercise.
My interpretation is that it's deflection and he's in a stage of denial, right now. ThisInJapanese said:
True, Mike Tyson had it right. Black shorts, torn towel, quick combo and then back to the dressing room. I loved his brutally simplistic approach.
I find myself watching Mike's fights most weeks. I use it as a source of motivation for work, gym sessions etc. his fights were an absolute spectacle in almost all cases. I am also working my way through Mayweather's fights as I didn't watch them at the time, though less for motivation and more to see some different boxers at different weights as I tend to just watch heavy weights
Big fan of Daniel Dubois at the moment, hope he does well against Joyce in April
Any other Dubois fans?
from watching those highlights on reddit, Wilder's balance was almost nonexistent after the first round.
1st knockdown almost looked like a shoulder punch but really lands on the base of the skull as he was off balance
2nd knockdown, he was falling over his own feet as he got hit.
Taking nothing away from Fury, I can't help but think there is more to this than has been let on.
1st knockdown almost looked like a shoulder punch but really lands on the base of the skull as he was off balance
2nd knockdown, he was falling over his own feet as he got hit.
Taking nothing away from Fury, I can't help but think there is more to this than has been let on.
Sebo said:
I find myself watching Mike's fights most weeks.
Whenever I watch his knockout highlights, which are brutally spectacular – if he was around today in his prime you feel that he'd still be destroying everybody – I'm always struck by the concern he immediately showed to his floored opponents. bolidemichael said:
Blackpuddin said:
Wilder seems very angry about the towel being thrown in as it went against all his instructions to his corner. I've not got a particular view on it but it's interesting that this tradition is still observed and that there is apparently no overrule option that the chap in the ring can exercise.
My interpretation is that it's deflection and he's in a stage of denial, right now. Blackpuddin said:
Sebo said:
I find myself watching Mike's fights most weeks.
Whenever I watch his knockout highlights, which are brutally spectacular – if he was around today in his prime you feel that he'd still be destroying everybody – I'm always struck by the concern he immediately showed to his floored opponents. 
h Don King, how things could have turned out for Tyson. lerate said:
Silkyskills said:
Wilder wasn't 'exposed' by Fury at all. Everybody knew what Wilder was all about it's just that in Fury he came up against somebody able to stop his right fist being triggered. Ortiz and the rest knew what Wilder had and would have done everything they could to nullify it but just weren't up to the job.
On another note, AJ is far superior to Wilder and I believe would knock him out not just a TKO either. When and if AJ and Fury get in ring I believe it's a 50/50 fight and if I had to bet I'd bet on AJ.
Despite his knock out percentage Wilder is the most disappointing Heavyweight Champion I can remember. He just looks clueless when anybody puts the pressure on and he gets tagged. Frankly I'm astonished he reigned as long as he did with his one-trick.
“Wilder is the most disappointing Heavyweight Champion I can remember” - then you have a short memory. Look up who AJ won his first world belt off On another note, AJ is far superior to Wilder and I believe would knock him out not just a TKO either. When and if AJ and Fury get in ring I believe it's a 50/50 fight and if I had to bet I'd bet on AJ.
Despite his knock out percentage Wilder is the most disappointing Heavyweight Champion I can remember. He just looks clueless when anybody puts the pressure on and he gets tagged. Frankly I'm astonished he reigned as long as he did with his one-trick.
Amirhussain said:
Blackpuddin said:
Sebo said:
I find myself watching Mike's fights most weeks.
Whenever I watch his knockout highlights, which are brutally spectacular – if he was around today in his prime you feel that he'd still be destroying everybody – I'm always struck by the concern he immediately showed to his floored opponents. h Don King, how things could have turned out for Tyson. t. It certainly wouldn't have helped.I think Tyson knew he had a job to do and up until the point it was done, he was singularly focused on executing that job - after that he genuinely cared about the opponent - not sure about the Holyfield incident tbh though..
justice. said:
That's a brilliant interview 
Sebo said:
I find myself watching Mike's fights most weeks. I use it as a source of motivation for work, gym sessions etc. his fights were an absolute spectacle in almost all cases.
I am also working my way through Mayweather's fights as I didn't watch them at the time, though less for motivation and more to see some different boxers at different weights as I tend to just watch heavy weights
Big fan of Daniel Dubois at the moment, hope he does well against Joyce in April
Any other Dubois fans?
Yep, saw him Muller Dorien Darch a couple of years ago and then saw some of his fights after that, including Nathan Gorman. He's got explosive power and if he can build his craft could be a great challenger in a couple of years. I am also working my way through Mayweather's fights as I didn't watch them at the time, though less for motivation and more to see some different boxers at different weights as I tend to just watch heavy weights
Big fan of Daniel Dubois at the moment, hope he does well against Joyce in April
Any other Dubois fans?
Amirhussain said:
Gadgetmac said:
bolidemichael said:
Wilder was already alluding to 'problems' in the lead time, whilst in the ring after the towel had been thrown.
I suspect that Wilder 'reigned' for so long, due to his unorthodox style combined with a devastating right hand.
He also appears to have avoided pretty much anybody of any note except maybe Ortiz. He never fought Wlad, White etc. I'm just looking through his record and it's pretty unremarkable.I suspect that Wilder 'reigned' for so long, due to his unorthodox style combined with a devastating right hand.
Never rated Wilder. Szpilka came close to spoiling the party a while back but fortunately for Wilder his right hand came to the rescue.
One of the best things about the Fury win was watching Stephen A Smith shutting up
AJ was a fool not to give him what he wanted in order to take his belt off him before Fury got to him first.
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