The **BOXING** thread (Vol 3)
Discussion
Amirhussain said:
philv said:
Davos123 said:
Davos123 said:
If I was Fury I'd tell them to f
k off for anything that wasn't 50/50.
Lol and behold, this is exactly what has happened. Fury claiming they made an offer that was worse than 60/40 and said it's 50/50 or nothing. I can see no justification for a split in AJ's favour.k off for anything that wasn't 50/50.Hearn and AJ are f
king pussies. He didn’t do enough against wilder, and got knocked down twice.
It then becomes like a 14 round fight where wilder has won 4 rounds for sure.
It’s not incnceivable that wilder edged another 3 and drew another.
Fury has his antics, and marginally landed more punches.
But the 2 big knockdown rounds (effectively double rounds for wilder) were huge.
Not a chance he was robbed.
Looked impressive? Maybe?
Land enough to take the title from a reighning champion, whilst being flattened twice?
I don’t think so.
Heap praise on fury for getting off the canvas twice, but that doesn’t earn him extra points.
Being flattened twice lost him the fight.
hyphen said:
So is anyone giving Broner a chance against Manny? Manny is looking unbelievable in training, and also back with Roach, but 40 is 40.
It’s boxing anything can happen. One punch is all it takes.Having said that...I’m not giving Broner a chance. I think Manny will deal with him pretty easily. Could be like when he got schooled by Maidana.
Miocene said:
Amirhussain said:
WBC have ordered Fury and Wilder rematch. Terms must be agreed to by 5th Feb. Fight likely to happen around May/June.
They've also said Fury deserves a larger cut. Would they usually come out and say that!?This would be unless the two sides made an agreement between themselves, before the fight went to purse bids.
In this case, I wonder what politics are going on behind the scenes to cause the WBC to declare this fight as his mandatory as well as specifying suggested new purse splits.
We know the agreed split last time was roughly 60/40 in Wilder's favour. We know Wilder's team though are pretty much only interested in a rematch. (I suspect the reason is that, firstly, they think the rematch will be a much bigger fight, and if Wilder revises his tactics, he should be able to KO Fury. And if he comes off the back of a much bigger set of PPV sales, he will be able to demand 50/50 with Joshua).
We also know Wilder has so far had a good relationship with the WBC and Fury had been demanding 50/50 if he was to agree to rematch.
The other piece of the jigsaw is that Hearn also keeps hinting Fury doesn't have a broadcast deal with BT and he has been making offers directly to Fury to face Joshua in April.
Making the fight between Fury and Wilder mandatory though does a few things. Firstly, in brings focus and publicity back to the fight, which probably helps increase the chance of it being made. Second, it removes some flexibility from Wilder's negotiation position, as he now can't bluff saying he might take a different fight unless Fury is "reasonable" on the money. Thirdly, if they don't make a deal and it goes to purse bids, Showtime risk losing control of their investment in Wilder, as Hearn/DAZN could throw in a stupidly high offer just to disrupt one of their broadcast competitors.
Also, the WBC specifying a recommended 60/40 split, together with risk of fight going to purse bids, increases the chances of the actual deal being closer to 50/50.
I'd suggest this announcement from the WBC won't be welcomed by Wilder's team. It reduces their negotiation flexibility. And it gives Fury the upper hand to get either close to his desired 50/50, or he can leverage it to get a better deal to face Joshua.
Fittster said:
Davos123 said:
Fury claiming they made an offer that was worse than 60/40 and said it's 50/50 or nothing.
Who has the belts?Fury didn't even win against Wilder.
It's about the amount of space between the A side and B side on terms of commercial value. And they are close enough to be 60-40 I would say.
Fury is making the pie much bigger, he deserves a large slice. AJ will be getting his rematch clauses, and will do a lot of dictating over terms, specify gloves to be used for example and anything else he wants to give him an edge.
Edited by hyphen on Thursday 17th January 07:47
Hearn has said that he has improved his offer to both fury and wilder to 60-40.
Previously it was 65-35 and Wilders camp didn't bother replying. AJ even text Wilder direct asking if they were speaking to the right people and Wilder ignored him.
60-40 is a good offer, if no other strings attached.
Previously it was 65-35 and Wilders camp didn't bother replying. AJ even text Wilder direct asking if they were speaking to the right people and Wilder ignored him.
60-40 is a good offer, if no other strings attached.
Gameface said:
He's a cheating Mexican with judges in his pocket due to his PPV popularity.
Don't hold him up as beacon of the sport.
He is a beacon of the sport. He has fought everyone and moved up in weight to do it. And however you scored it the fact is he fought Golovkin to a standstill twice. with judges in his pocket due to his PPV popularity.Don't hold him up as beacon of the sport.
We need more like him in the sport.
Gameface said:
More lying drug cheats?
You really need to do your research. Boxing is big business, much bigger than athletics, cycling, rugby etcIt is also a sport where pharmaceutical help would help enormously - correctly administered there is no reason to get caught unless you are careless.
Of course it's not right but the genie is out of the bottle and he is not going back in.
Gameface said:
Research? Stick your condescension up your arse.
He's a lying fking cheat and any other fighter would've got a much longer ban.
You can worship him if you wish. I won't, cheers.
I hate drug cheats and it annoys me that it has come to this but I also would not have wanted to have 30years of watching boxing ruined if I dwell on it too much.He's a lying f
king cheat and any other fighter would've got a much longer ban.You can worship him if you wish. I won't, cheers.
What boxers do you admire? I really want to know what paragons of virtue that you can hold up and say yep he's clean!
Mike Tyson on Joe Rogan last night, very interesting and honest.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MNv4_rTkfU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MNv4_rTkfU
272BHP said:
Gameface said:
Research? Stick your condescension up your arse.
He's a lying fking cheat and any other fighter would've got a much longer ban.
You can worship him if you wish. I won't, cheers.
I hate drug cheats and it annoys me that it has come to this but I also would not have wanted to have 30years of watching boxing ruined if I dwell on it too much.He's a lying f
king cheat and any other fighter would've got a much longer ban.You can worship him if you wish. I won't, cheers.
What boxers do you admire? I really want to know what paragons of virtue that you can hold up and say yep he's clean!
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