Golf - 2021

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simoid

19,772 posts

158 months

Monday 7th June 2021
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ThunderSpook said:
There is definitely no reason for golf to be quite as snobby as it is. I can’t see why they shouldn’t let people wear jeans for example, just ask for no ripped jeans. Also the need to tuck your t-shirt in is a bit old and snobby. If they want golf to be open to all then stop it being so stuffy. Oh, and throw away half of the rule book cos it’s stupid. Getting a penalty for not swapping cards for example when on tv. It’s not like they really need to keep their own scores whatsoever.
What’s wrong with ripped jeans biggrin

CustardOnChips

1,936 posts

62 months

Monday 7th June 2021
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Tycho said:
ThunderSpook said:
Blackpuddin said:
As a dedicated duffer I can confirm that you'll get the same effect from Ping G425s. They're made in Britain and they won't take 10 weeks to arrive.
That was the other clubs I liked. The Cobra’s are also made in the UK apparently. Pings are 12 weeks lead time at the moment.
I think most companies assemble the clubs in the destination country. My Forge Tec were put together in the UK as they are custom length, also the Vokey wedge I've got on order is the same. I guess it is cheaper to ship them disassembled from a cost and tax front?
Yep. They are all just assembled here. I very much doubt any club components are actually manufactured in the UK.

The delays are being caused by shaft availability. I understand that some grips are now also difficult to get hold of.

Rosscow

Original Poster:

8,760 posts

163 months

Monday 7th June 2021
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Played at Royal Blackheath yesterday in a Club match. Course was in pretty good condition, but the rough was seriously thick in places! Very tough.

Didn't swing my woods very well, lost 3&1. Nice afternoon, though!

Blackpuddin

16,509 posts

205 months

Monday 7th June 2021
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CustardOnChips said:
Tycho said:
ThunderSpook said:
Blackpuddin said:
As a dedicated duffer I can confirm that you'll get the same effect from Ping G425s. They're made in Britain and they won't take 10 weeks to arrive.
That was the other clubs I liked. The Cobra’s are also made in the UK apparently. Pings are 12 weeks lead time at the moment.
I think most companies assemble the clubs in the destination country. My Forge Tec were put together in the UK as they are custom length, also the Vokey wedge I've got on order is the same. I guess it is cheaper to ship them disassembled from a cost and tax front?
Yep. They are all just assembled here. I very much doubt any club components are actually manufactured in the UK.

The delays are being caused by shaft availability. I understand that some grips are now also difficult to get hold of.
Mine are bog standard black dot with the stock shaft which probably explains the quick delivery.

bodhi

10,478 posts

229 months

Monday 7th June 2021
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Just to add to the fun with the new WHS, after playing to my handicap a couple of weeks ago and going up 0.3, I played in our medal yesterday, had an NR and went down 0.4 hehe

Was 5 off the tee on the 6th, hit my approach to the green, pulled it left into a bombhole and never saw it again - was a bit hot and bothered at that point and didn't fancy walking back down and up the biggest hill on the course, so walked on to the 7th. Carried on playing, played really well (back in 38), the system gave me a 7 for the 6th hole and gave me and adjusted Gross of 79.

Highlight was a birdie on 17 where I wasn't anywhere near the 17th fairway....pushed my drive right into the trees between 17 and 16, was blocked getting back to 17 so just played up 16 (there was no-one behind us). I do love cross country golf smile

SpeckledJim

31,608 posts

253 months

Monday 7th June 2021
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I quite like this idea.

Formats like stableford which encourage a more aggressive approach by not punishing disasters, are matched by a handicap system that doesn't benefit players who have regular disasters.

The old system, which counts every shot of every disaster, meant that players who took their resulting high handicaps into competition formats that didn't punish those same disasters, got a disproportionate advantage.

On the other hand, it makes handicaps perhaps artificially low for some players. It's a tough one to pitch just right.


bodhi

10,478 posts

229 months

Monday 7th June 2021
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SpeckledJim said:
I quite like this idea.

Formats like stableford which encourage a more aggressive approach by not punishing disasters, are matched by a handicap system that doesn't benefit players who have regular disasters.

The old system, which counts every shot of every disaster, meant that players who took their resulting high handicaps into competition formats that didn't punish those same disasters, got a disproportionate advantage.

On the other hand, it makes handicaps perhaps artificially low for some players. It's a tough one to pitch just right.
In fairness with the old system I would have laboured round for the last 12 holes only to get 0.1 back, so I do like the fact it encourages you to keep going even if you've had a disaster. The old system did used to knock big scores back down to nett double bogies for handicap purposes, just wasn't that well advertised, and it did nothing with NR's.

Part of me is tempted to see if I can populate all 8 scores with NR's wink

SpeckledJim

31,608 posts

253 months

Monday 7th June 2021
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bodhi said:
SpeckledJim said:
I quite like this idea.

Formats like stableford which encourage a more aggressive approach by not punishing disasters, are matched by a handicap system that doesn't benefit players who have regular disasters.

The old system, which counts every shot of every disaster, meant that players who took their resulting high handicaps into competition formats that didn't punish those same disasters, got a disproportionate advantage.

On the other hand, it makes handicaps perhaps artificially low for some players. It's a tough one to pitch just right.
In fairness with the old system I would have laboured round for the last 12 holes only to get 0.1 back, so I do like the fact it encourages you to keep going even if you've had a disaster. The old system did used to knock big scores back down to nett double bogies for handicap purposes, just wasn't that well advertised, and it did nothing with NR's.

Part of me is tempted to see if I can populate all 8 scores with NR's wink
Did it? Then please forgive me, I misunderstood how the old system worked. smile


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Edited by SpeckledJim on Monday 7th June 12:25

pincher

8,558 posts

217 months

Monday 7th June 2021
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Blackpuddin said:
CustardOnChips said:
Tycho said:
ThunderSpook said:
Blackpuddin said:
As a dedicated duffer I can confirm that you'll get the same effect from Ping G425s. They're made in Britain and they won't take 10 weeks to arrive.
That was the other clubs I liked. The Cobra’s are also made in the UK apparently. Pings are 12 weeks lead time at the moment.
I think most companies assemble the clubs in the destination country. My Forge Tec were put together in the UK as they are custom length, also the Vokey wedge I've got on order is the same. I guess it is cheaper to ship them disassembled from a cost and tax front?
Yep. They are all just assembled here. I very much doubt any club components are actually manufactured in the UK.

The delays are being caused by shaft availability. I understand that some grips are now also difficult to get hold of.
Mine are bog standard black dot with the stock shaft which probably explains the quick delivery.
Ordered my Pings 5 weeks ago, yesterday (black dot, 1/2" longer shaft) - called up just now and they are at the warehouse and should be at the shop either tomorrow or Friday with any luck.

Pieman68

4,264 posts

234 months

Monday 7th June 2021
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pincher said:
Ordered my Pings 5 weeks ago, yesterday (black dot, 1/2" longer shaft) - called up just now and they are at the warehouse and should be at the shop either tomorrow or Friday with any luck.
My Benross took 4 weeks (1 inch longer KBS shafts 2 degrees upright)

Except for the 4 iron. Not sure what's happened to that yet rolleyes

Squeezed a short 18 in on Friday after work. Still adjusting to the new irons but hugely better with the short game and my new putter is a revelation (sunk a 30 footer on the longest hole from off the front of the green and put loads within a few inches of the cup)

Time to get some practice in and maybe book a few lessons

bodhi

10,478 posts

229 months

Monday 7th June 2021
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SpeckledJim said:
bodhi said:
SpeckledJim said:
I quite like this idea.

Formats like stableford which encourage a more aggressive approach by not punishing disasters, are matched by a handicap system that doesn't benefit players who have regular disasters.

The old system, which counts every shot of every disaster, meant that players who took their resulting high handicaps into competition formats that didn't punish those same disasters, got a disproportionate advantage.

On the other hand, it makes handicaps perhaps artificially low for some players. It's a tough one to pitch just right.
In fairness with the old system I would have laboured round for the last 12 holes only to get 0.1 back, so I do like the fact it encourages you to keep going even if you've had a disaster. The old system did used to knock big scores back down to nett double bogies for handicap purposes, just wasn't that well advertised, and it did nothing with NR's.

Part of me is tempted to see if I can populate all 8 scores with NR's wink
Did it? Then please forgive me, I misunderstood how the old system worked. smile


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Edited by SpeckledJim on Monday 7th June 12:25
I wouldn't worry too much, as I said it wasn't very well advertised, I only knew about it as I used to help out with competitions.

Just found out a couple of lads at our club are doing a "Longest Day" type event today for a local charity. Our course is 125 years old, so the nutters have decided to try to play 125 holes in one day. First teed off at 3:45am this morning, we've just been updated that they are 81 holes in - they'd done 36 by 9am!

Have sponsored them £10 as it's a great cause and a great effort - I am broken after 36, never mind nearly 7 rounds in a day.

CustardOnChips

1,936 posts

62 months

Monday 7th June 2021
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bodhi said:
I wouldn't worry too much, as I said it wasn't very well advertised, I only knew about it as I used to help out with competitions.

Just found out a couple of lads at our club are doing a "Longest Day" type event today for a local charity. Our course is 125 years old, so the nutters have decided to try to play 125 holes in one day. First teed off at 3:45am this morning, we've just been updated that they are 81 holes in - they'd done 36 by 9am!

Have sponsored them £10 as it's a great cause and a great effort - I am broken after 36, never mind nearly 7 rounds in a day.
Thats some effort. I've done the 72 hole thing for McMillan a couple of time. Even in my younger days it was hard work.

SpeckledJim

31,608 posts

253 months

Monday 7th June 2021
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CustardOnChips said:
bodhi said:
I wouldn't worry too much, as I said it wasn't very well advertised, I only knew about it as I used to help out with competitions.

Just found out a couple of lads at our club are doing a "Longest Day" type event today for a local charity. Our course is 125 years old, so the nutters have decided to try to play 125 holes in one day. First teed off at 3:45am this morning, we've just been updated that they are 81 holes in - they'd done 36 by 9am!

Have sponsored them £10 as it's a great cause and a great effort - I am broken after 36, never mind nearly 7 rounds in a day.
Thats some effort. I've done the 72 hole thing for McMillan a couple of time. Even in my younger days it was hard work.
If they're walking it, that's an incredible effort. Very well done to them.

bodhi

10,478 posts

229 months

Monday 7th June 2021
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SpeckledJim said:
CustardOnChips said:
bodhi said:
I wouldn't worry too much, as I said it wasn't very well advertised, I only knew about it as I used to help out with competitions.

Just found out a couple of lads at our club are doing a "Longest Day" type event today for a local charity. Our course is 125 years old, so the nutters have decided to try to play 125 holes in one day. First teed off at 3:45am this morning, we've just been updated that they are 81 holes in - they'd done 36 by 9am!

Have sponsored them £10 as it's a great cause and a great effort - I am broken after 36, never mind nearly 7 rounds in a day.
Thats some effort. I've done the 72 hole thing for McMillan a couple of time. Even in my younger days it was hard work.
If they're walking it, that's an incredible effort. Very well done to them.
I've just been down for a few holes and to see how they've been getting on, they've walked it and both are carrying clubs as well - fairly Herculean imo. We left when they had another 8 holes to do at about 8:30, they both looked broken and a bit fed up, but half the club was out walking round with them so I have absolutely no doubt they'll finish, even if they have to go fish a buggy out the shed for them.

They reckoned they'd do 40 miles on foot and swing the club about 5-600 times throughout the day. It's also a 9 hole course (with 18 tees) so I suspect they'll know the greens well by the end of it.

Apologies if it's against any forum rules - will delete if so, but their Go Fund Me is below if anyone else is as impressed as I am

https://www.gofundme.com/f/125-holes-of-golf-in-a-...


pincher

8,558 posts

217 months

Monday 7th June 2021
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Shot a 90 this evening, albeit on a relatively short par 68 course but I’m feeling pretty happy as it’s better than I’ve done before.

theguvernor15

944 posts

103 months

Tuesday 8th June 2021
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So after being my rather mean index of 9.1 i went out yesterday & shot a 24 over par. LOL.

Managed a birdie & 6 pars, but the bad holes were really bad. (2 doubles, 4 triples & a 9!) - horrendous.

I was meant playing on my own, so didn't get a score marked & the old boy who joined up with me didn't use the app (i also didn't know how to use it until after i'd finished so couldn't use the score).

Playing again this evening, so hoping to get that score right back down again.

Golf is hard.

Tomm3

335 posts

149 months

Tuesday 8th June 2021
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Pieman68 said:
My Benross took 4 weeks (1 inch longer KBS shafts 2 degrees upright)

Except for the 4 iron. Not sure what's happened to that yet rolleyes

Squeezed a short 18 in on Friday after work. Still adjusting to the new irons but hugely better with the short game and my new putter is a revelation (sunk a 30 footer on the longest hole from off the front of the green and put loads within a few inches of the cup)

Time to get some practice in and maybe book a few lessons
This Friday is 10 weeks since ordering the Callaways, hopefully they'll turn up in June. Seems a long time, I'm still excited to be getting new clubs but it's gone a bit flat at present.

GloverMart

11,814 posts

215 months

Tuesday 8th June 2021
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I've only just discovered this thread, hello all! wavey

Started playing golf back in the early 1990's after getting group tuition at Wincanton Racecourse (there's a 9 hole course in the middle of it). Played for several years at a very tight course called Halstock, just outside Yeovil and got down to 14.4 for a week before drifting out to 14.5 and eventually settling at about 16. Highlights included shooting a gross 88 at Gleneagles on a works prize do & also representing my club at the Bray & Sear Championships for my handicap (12-18 category). Birdied the first hole, went to pot after that,

Moved to Bristol twenty years ago and pretty well stopped playing for a while. Literally played Thornbury Par 3 a few times and Tall Pines once then stopped. Just played once a year for several years at the Yeovil Town golf day at Sherborne; never broke 100 but we did win the 2019 competition! Only other golf was the 18 hole P & P course in Bath where I aced the 17th in 2009.

Now my lads enjoy the game, we've taken to playing at a little pitch and putt course in Clevedon. Right on the coast, literally!! It's a par 57 with four par fours and no par fives. It can be a bit unforgiving on windy days and the course's not always in a good condition but for a tenner, I can't complain. Last time I played about a month ago, shot a 63 which I was stunned at. All I changed was to take one extra club for each tee shot which obviously gave me easier second shots and shorter putts. Annoyed I haven't played since but will get out there again soon.

Looking forward to going back through the thread and seeing how you're all getting on.

sc0tt

18,039 posts

201 months

Thursday 10th June 2021
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Another 31 points tonight.

Well chuffed with my first ever putt in birdie on a par 5. Have had a flukey chip in on a par 3 but my course management is getting better as time goes on. Fair few 3 putts which is letting me down but progress.

New clubs are settling in nicely.

GloverMart

11,814 posts

215 months

Thursday 10th June 2021
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toasty said:
Not the best round today. It got off to a bad start with the Club pro, coming all the way from the pro shop to the 1st tee to tell one of our group to tuck his shirt in. It’s this kind of stuck up antiquated fkwittery that puts off so many from taking up golf.
That's crazy. I'm not the right shape to tuck my shirt into my trousers. It would come out after every shot..... hehe