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McGee_22 said:
lornemalvo said:
I lost what little interest I had in Raducanu when she botted her coach as soon as she won a title. No way of knowing the full story but that level of loyalty is less than impressive.
You should perhaps read about the situation - it is very well documented about the situation at Wimbledon, post Wimbledon and up to the end of the US Open.lornemalvo said:
McGee_22 said:
lornemalvo said:
I lost what little interest I had in Raducanu when she botted her coach as soon as she won a title. No way of knowing the full story but that level of loyalty is less than impressive.
You should perhaps read about the situation - it is very well documented about the situation at Wimbledon, post Wimbledon and up to the end of the US Open.Also, the tenure of a tour tennis coach can sometimes make a football manager’s job look like a cushy gig.
g4ry13 said:
nickfrog said:
g4ry13 said:
There might be some pain but I think in the past she has used it as an out to quit when things weren't going as intended.
When ?Wimbledon against Ajla Tomljanovic after losing first set and down 3-0 in second set.
First round of the Guadalajara Open against Daria Saville. Emma failed to close out the second set to win the match.
Then we also have the blister excuses which get rolled out for losing. Almost every loss has an excuse rather than getting outplayed / outperformed on the court.
nickfrog said:
g4ry13 said:
nickfrog said:
g4ry13 said:
There might be some pain but I think in the past she has used it as an out to quit when things weren't going as intended.
When ?Wimbledon against Ajla Tomljanovic after losing first set and down 3-0 in second set.
First round of the Guadalajara Open against Daria Saville. Emma failed to close out the second set to win the match.
Then we also have the blister excuses which get rolled out for losing. Almost every loss has an excuse rather than getting outplayed / outperformed on the court.
g4ry13 said:
Fair enough. As I said earlier, you're perfectly entitled to your opinion on it
I couldn't see the match today but it looks like she had an injury break at the end of the second set. I am still trying not to agree with you but it's becoming more difficult not to be cynical 
nickfrog said:
g4ry13 said:
Fair enough. As I said earlier, you're perfectly entitled to your opinion on it
I couldn't see the match today but it looks like she had an injury break at the end of the second set. I am still trying not to agree with you but it's becoming more difficult not to be cynical swisstoni said:
What's the plan then? Pull out of tournaments to make just about enough to cover your expenses, whilst your ranking plummets off a cliff.
I don't think so but I feel she is stretching the spirit of the regulations a little by having very conveniently timed physio breaks.She certainly isn't the only one and I don't know for a fact that these are not a coincidence.
I think the solution is to recruit a top team around her, commensurate with her ambitions, potential and raw talent.
See what Alcaraz is doing for instance, and emulate.
I've lost interest now tbh and will unsubscribe from this thread.
She's made a lot of money and really should consider spending a chunk to get the best team around her for a couple of years and see what happens. She might start winning more. She might continue to lose. It's worth trying to see what happens
She's made a lot of money and really should consider spending a chunk to get the best team around her for a couple of years and see what happens. She might start winning more. She might continue to lose. It's worth trying to see what happens
She hasn't earned *that* much though that she wouldn't get through her career earnings very quickly.
Needs to be done as it looks like her way is being lost... Or maybe she just fell very lucky with the way the US Open rolled. It happens sometimes - Leicester winning the Premier league, England winning an Ashes test etc.
Needs to be done as it looks like her way is being lost... Or maybe she just fell very lucky with the way the US Open rolled. It happens sometimes - Leicester winning the Premier league, England winning an Ashes test etc.
Frimley111R said:
MrJuice said:
Beaten again
Pretty much every bit of news about her is the same. Hero to zero. Shame for her.Rather than spending time on Court with a solid training team behind her she'd rather prance around at New York Fashion week and doing magazine covers like this when she should have been preparing for this tournament.
Still a bit perplexed by people writing her off at aged 19, eight months after she became the only person ever to win a Grand Slam as a qualifier.
She probably over-achieved at the US Open, for her age and experience. However, the fact that she isn't sweeping aside all before her now is not cause for serious concern.
Yes, she needs to build a good team around her. That, to an extent, is a process of trial and error therefore takes time.
Again, for reference, Serena Williams was seeded 7th for her first Grand Slam title (1999 US Open) having been a professional for two years.
She didn't reach another Grand Slam final for 2.5 years after that.
Give the girl time.
She probably over-achieved at the US Open, for her age and experience. However, the fact that she isn't sweeping aside all before her now is not cause for serious concern.
Yes, she needs to build a good team around her. That, to an extent, is a process of trial and error therefore takes time.
Again, for reference, Serena Williams was seeded 7th for her first Grand Slam title (1999 US Open) having been a professional for two years.
She didn't reach another Grand Slam final for 2.5 years after that.
Give the girl time.
Just heard an ex GB pro tennis player give his thoughts on TalkSPORT;
Thinks the coaching turnover and current coaching quality is at the heart of it.
Thinks 50 in the world is her correct level despite the US open win. (Ie beating anyone higher ranked is a good result).
Thinks she can achieve far more, but not without a good, settled team.
Thinks the coaching turnover and current coaching quality is at the heart of it.
Thinks 50 in the world is her correct level despite the US open win. (Ie beating anyone higher ranked is a good result).
Thinks she can achieve far more, but not without a good, settled team.
bad company said:
Starting to think her US Open win was a flash in the pan. Hope I’m wrong.
You are.The way she played in Wimbledon and the US Open was amazing. I haven't seen a lot of the coverage recently but if she still plays with that verve and style then we should see her go well in other Grand Slams. At the moment she isn't defending points, once she starts doing that then I think we can make judgement on her ability.
Muzzer79 said:
Still a bit perplexed by people writing her off at aged 19, eight months after she became the only person ever to win a Grand Slam as a qualifier.
She probably over-achieved at the US Open, for her age and experience. However, the fact that she isn't sweeping aside all before her now is not cause for serious concern.
I agree, Federer lost badly vs Rafter at his first RG. Problem is she hasn't even had a tough opponent this year yet. But then again that might be what she needs! She probably over-achieved at the US Open, for her age and experience. However, the fact that she isn't sweeping aside all before her now is not cause for serious concern.
I am sure she will bounce back but no one knows if/when she will ever win another major.
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