Emma Raducanu

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rjfp1962

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7,725 posts

73 months

Wednesday 25th May 2022
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If she can reach 4 or 5 Grand Slam title wins by the age of 25, that would be quite a successful playing career IMO.

Of course, there is no way of knowing what's to come - but she will have a successful career no matter what.

I'd like to see her win a few more slams though... smile

Mr Pointy

11,220 posts

159 months

Wednesday 25th May 2022
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rjfp1962 said:
I'd like to see her win a few more slams though... smile
I think most people would be happy if she just won a few more matches.

deckster

9,630 posts

255 months

Wednesday 25th May 2022
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rjfp1962 said:
If she can reach 4 or 5 Grand Slam title wins by the age of 25, that would be quite a successful playing career IMO.
Not sure if serious...

5 Grand Slams (at any age) would put her in the top 30 all-time great tennis players. Which I think is a little more than "quite successful".

Skeptisk

7,467 posts

109 months

Wednesday 25th May 2022
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I wasn’t expecting her to win every tournament after the US Open but was expecting much better than she has performed. To win the US Open she had to win 10 consecutive matches. I haven’t counted but I don’t think in total she has won 10 more matches since the US Open. It is not even as if she has been playing the top seeds and losing.

Stan the Bat

8,918 posts

212 months

Wednesday 25th May 2022
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I don't think she is anyway near peak fitness at the moment, but it will come.

DKL

4,491 posts

222 months

Wednesday 25th May 2022
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Skeptisk said:
I wasn’t expecting her to win every tournament after the US Open but was expecting much better than she has performed. To win the US Open she had to win 10 consecutive matches. I haven’t counted but I don’t think in total she has won 10 more matches since the US Open. It is not even as if she has been playing the top seeds and losing.
This is pretty much where I am with the situation. Remove the US play and she is on a par with her previous form, give or take. It may come but I did expect a bit more to be honest.
I see Leylah Fernandes has won her second round match.

Edited by DKL on Wednesday 25th May 20:05

ChocolateFrog

25,327 posts

173 months

Wednesday 25th May 2022
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She gets way more column inches than her performances at the moment warrant. Living on her looks and the good will of her win last year.




anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 25th May 2022
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Stan the Bat said:
I don't think she is anyway near peak fitness at the moment, but it will come.
How do you know either of those statements is correct?

twohoursfromlondon

1,198 posts

41 months

Wednesday 25th May 2022
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ChocolateFrog said:
She gets way more column inches than her performances at the moment warrant. Living on her looks and the good will of her win last year.
Is she simply the 2022 equivalent of Anna Kournikova….?

Wills2

22,819 posts

175 months

Wednesday 25th May 2022
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deckster said:
rjfp1962 said:
If she can reach 4 or 5 Grand Slam title wins by the age of 25, that would be quite a successful playing career IMO.
Not sure if serious...

5 Grand Slams (at any age) would put her in the top 30 all-time great tennis players. Which I think is a little more than "quite successful".
Indeed there are many players who have been very successful that have never won a slam, I sometimes worry for the people that post this stuff what do they think of their own lives?



Stan the Bat

8,918 posts

212 months

Thursday 26th May 2022
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jsf said:
Stan the Bat said:
I don't think she is anyway near peak fitness at the moment, but it will come.
How do you know either of those statements is correct?
I said 'think' not know.

She had covid so her prep would not have been anywhere near as thorough as she would have liked .

I 'think' it will come because she seems to have a good will to succeed.

g4ry13

16,985 posts

255 months

Thursday 26th May 2022
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Stan the Bat said:
jsf said:
Stan the Bat said:
I don't think she is anyway near peak fitness at the moment, but it will come.
How do you know either of those statements is correct?
I said 'think' not know.

She had covid so her prep would not have been anywhere near as thorough as she would have liked .

I 'think' it will come because she seems to have a good will to succeed.
In December? Other players don't get the sniffles too?

Stan the Bat

8,918 posts

212 months

Thursday 26th May 2022
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We''ll see.

We know you think she fakes the injuries also.

CoolHands

18,633 posts

195 months

Thursday 26th May 2022
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Maybe you oldies have forgotten how easy it is to be fit when you’re that young. I don’t buy into her not being at peak fitness and all that. Obvs some will now retort that being fit and being championship level fit is a different ballgame but the fact remains she’s very young and very fit and I don’t buy she isn’t match fit, on in some way under necessary fitness levels. It’s her day job, she’s got nothing else interrupting her.

biggbn

23,322 posts

220 months

Friday 27th May 2022
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g4ry13 said:
Stan the Bat said:
jsf said:
Stan the Bat said:
I don't think she is anyway near peak fitness at the moment, but it will come.
How do you know either of those statements is correct?
I said 'think' not know.

She had covid so her prep would not have been anywhere near as thorough as she would have liked .

I 'think' it will come because she seems to have a good will to succeed.
In December? Other players don't get the sniffles too?
The sniffles? I had been enjoying reading the back and forth on this thread, it was almost like a tennis rally!! But sniffles? Sorry man, this comment undermines everything you have posted in my eyes. She may have had a very mild case, some catch it and don't make it out the other end.

g4ry13

16,985 posts

255 months

Friday 27th May 2022
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biggbn said:
g4ry13 said:
Stan the Bat said:
jsf said:
Stan the Bat said:
I don't think she is anyway near peak fitness at the moment, but it will come.
How do you know either of those statements is correct?
I said 'think' not know.

She had covid so her prep would not have been anywhere near as thorough as she would have liked .

I 'think' it will come because she seems to have a good will to succeed.
In December? Other players don't get the sniffles too?
The sniffles? I had been enjoying reading the back and forth on this thread, it was almost like a tennis rally!! But sniffles? Sorry man, this comment undermines everything you have posted in my eyes. She may have had a very mild case, some catch it and don't make it out the other end.
Going way off topic. But some people die of the common cold and others don't.

She's a young person who should be of good fitness levels (based on the fact that she's meant to be a professional athlete). A small handful (literally) of people her age died from Covid, Covid deaths were heavily skewed towards the older demographic and those which were medically vulnerable already.

It's honestly surprising to see someone claim that because an athlete was ill with Covid 5 months ago it would now have some impact on current fitness levels. If you drank the kool-aid and feel like you did your bit at the time then more power to you.

No further comments from me on the above as I can see this is too much of a digression from the nature of this thread.

biggbn

23,322 posts

220 months

Friday 27th May 2022
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g4ry13 said:
biggbn said:
g4ry13 said:
Stan the Bat said:
jsf said:
Stan the Bat said:
I don't think she is anyway near peak fitness at the moment, but it will come.
How do you know either of those statements is correct?
I said 'think' not know.

She had covid so her prep would not have been anywhere near as thorough as she would have liked .

I 'think' it will come because she seems to have a good will to succeed.
In December? Other players don't get the sniffles too?
The sniffles? I had been enjoying reading the back and forth on this thread, it was almost like a tennis rally!! But sniffles? Sorry man, this comment undermines everything you have posted in my eyes. She may have had a very mild case, some catch it and don't make it out the other end.
Going way off topic. But some people die of the common cold and others don't.

She's a young person who should be of good fitness levels (based on the fact that she's meant to be a professional athlete). A small handful (literally) of people her age died from Covid, Covid deaths were heavily skewed towards the older demographic and those which were medically vulnerable already.

It's honestly surprising to see someone claim that because an athlete was ill with Covid 5 months ago it would now have some impact on current fitness levels. If you drank the kool-aid and feel like you did your bit at the time then more power to you.
Thanks for the reply man, appreciated. Sadly, I didn't drink any cool aid but am more than aware of both the finality in some cases and long term impact in others that covid can have on some. It is a roll of the dice and whilst the common cold can kill, I think you would have to have severe underlying conditions for it to do so. I knew four people who have died of covid, two were walking covid bingo cards, including my best friend, so yeah, he had plenty of underlying conditions. Two were competitive athletes and under 30. I know many more, myself included, who have suffered long term effects of covid, not in a major way for myself, but for others, yes. Majorly so. Including distance runners and weightlifters. We can only judge things through our own lived experience I guess, and that experience sets the parameters through which we make our decisions. You and I have different lived experiences, that much seems clear, but I would no more shout from the rooftops that covid is a stone killer and will wipe everyone out as some seem to believe than others should proclaim it to be the sniffles or similar. The sad fact is that both of those positions are at opposite ends of a spectrum and the truth is in the middle. Covid can be an unpleasant, but relatively 'safe' cold; I've had it twice now. It can also kill. Many factors influence this not jist existing conditions, and I feel that referring to it as 'the sniffles' and accusing anyone who does not agree of 'drinking the Kool Aid' is rather insensitive and does not portray you in a particularly flattering light. It is, however, your right to hold that opinion, and post it, as it is mine to post a reply, it is, after all, a discussion forum.....have a great day brother man! I too, will leave this here and concentrate on the topic...


So...Emma raducanu...she's a bit $hit isn't she? smile

Edited by biggbn on Friday 27th May 09:16

nickfrog

21,149 posts

217 months

Friday 27th May 2022
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biggbn said:
So...Emma raducanu...she's a bit $hit isn't she? smile
laugh

I don't think anyone is saying that hopefully.

I am a massive fan but I am baffled. Not because she is not winning titles week in, week out.

But because she can't win a match against opponents much weaker than her on paper who themselves get religiously thrashed afterwards by people who themselves get thrashed afterwards etc...

7W and 9L so far this year.

The chasm between her USO form and now is difficult to understand. Fernández is more or less where I assumed ER would be now.

abzmike

8,377 posts

106 months

Friday 27th May 2022
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With the notable exception of the US Open last year, Raducanu has not beaten a player ranked in the top 40.
She is undoubtedly talented, and had a purple patch of 2 months last summer, but it is hard to see how that can be consistently recreated. The hype arounf her come Wimbledon and New York is going to be riduculous, she will need a strong team to keep her away from that. She needs to muddle through that, and get past the US Open, then have a hard training and playing stretch the rest of the season (possibly in some lower rankin events) to try and bulld fitness and consistency. Her current ranking flatters her, but getting knocked out in the first couple of rounds each tournament is going to do her no good at all.

Bright Halo

2,966 posts

235 months

Saturday 28th May 2022
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In her US open run she was really aggressive, chasing the ball down and going for her shots.
That has disappeared now. Quite a marked difference in aggression.
I’ll say it again, Ivan Lendl is the man for the job, he would sort her out and have her back to winning ways within a few weeks.
He is currently coaching Murray again but it would be good if something could be sorted out.