England cricket 2023 & 2024

England cricket 2023 & 2024

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LivingTheDream

1,753 posts

179 months

Sunday 12th March 2023
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England being rather predictable with their bowlers and the field.
With a low target I’d rather see them be more agressive

M11rph

569 posts

21 months

Sunday 12th March 2023
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Not much thinking going on at times from our batsmen.

Commentators and the England management have repeatedly said that the second name on the England Team sheet is Moeen Ali. What am I missing?

(Today he was second alphabetically, but that isn't what they mean before someone picks me up on it!)

His figures are poor. Gets out in the same manner too often, although in his defence he was caught in the deep today rather than the Covers, and I can't remember his last telling contribution. Fun 20s don't cut it.
Bowling, if Livingston is in our squad then Mo is at best our fourth spinner.
Has a nasty habit of dropping catches under pressure.

Who's his natural replacement?

thegreenhell

15,275 posts

219 months

Tuesday 14th March 2023
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You have to congratulate Bangladesh. They outperformed us in every department today, and across the series.

UTH

8,923 posts

178 months

Tuesday 25th April 2023
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NowWatchThisDrive

689 posts

104 months

Wednesday 26th April 2023
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Telegraph reporting that Jofra Archer has had to travel to Belgium during the IPL season for more elbow surgery.

Hate to say it and hope I'm wrong, but I'd be surprised if we haven't seen the best of his Test career, perhaps even the last altogether.

UTH

8,923 posts

178 months

Wednesday 26th April 2023
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NowWatchThisDrive said:
Telegraph reporting that Jofra Archer has had to travel to Belgium during the IPL season for more elbow surgery.

Hate to say it and hope I'm wrong, but I'd be surprised if we haven't seen the best of his Test career, perhaps even the last altogether.
Hmmmmmm yes https://www.skysports.com/cricket/news/12123/12866...

I imagine you're right, all the issues he's having doesn't scream 5 day tests being a good idea.

Scabutz

7,585 posts

80 months

Wednesday 26th April 2023
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NowWatchThisDrive said:
Telegraph reporting that Jofra Archer has had to travel to Belgium during the IPL season for more elbow surgery.

Hate to say it and hope I'm wrong, but I'd be surprised if we haven't seen the best of his Test career, perhaps even the last altogether.
Don't think he is too happy about the article



I wonder as well what is going on with Stokes. He's only played 2 games in the IPL and they are being cagey about what his injuries are.

NowWatchThisDrive

689 posts

104 months

Wednesday 26th April 2023
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Scabutz said:
NowWatchThisDrive said:
Telegraph reporting that Jofra Archer has had to travel to Belgium during the IPL season for more elbow surgery.

Hate to say it and hope I'm wrong, but I'd be surprised if we haven't seen the best of his Test career, perhaps even the last altogether.
Don't think he is too happy about the article



I wonder as well what is going on with Stokes. He's only played 2 games in the IPL and they are being cagey about what his injuries are.
I'm not quite sure what he's getting at. Is he suggesting the article is inaccurate? If so then he should refute it. Otherwise, he doesn't just get to veto stories about him that are in the public interest because he doesn't like them or the facts are inconvenient. The guy is a reputable cricket writer who went to the ECB for comment and they confirmed it all.

UTH

8,923 posts

178 months

Tuesday 9th May 2023
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Doesn't fill me with confidence:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/65531254


Lotusgone

1,179 posts

127 months

Tuesday 9th May 2023
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Root and Stokes are keeping chairs warm in the IPL. Meanwhile Smith and Bus Change are acclimatising to English conditions in the county Championship.

Doesn't exactly bode well for recovering the Ashes, does it?


Scabutz

7,585 posts

80 months

Tuesday 9th May 2023
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Lotusgone said:
Root and Stokes are keeping chairs warm in the IPL. Meanwhile Smith and Bus Change are acclimatising to English conditions in the county Championship.

Doesn't exactly bode well for recovering the Ashes, does it?
I wonder why Root and RR bothered with him at the IPL. He hasnt been bought before because he is seen as a test batsman and that hasnt changed. He has only been selected once and didnt get a look in with the bat. Probably would have been better for him to stay at home and get some games in the county champs. Cant blame him for wanting to get some dosh out of the IPL though.

Stokes is a worry, they are being cagey about what his injuries are, two weeks ago they said he wouldn't be fit for a week and there is still no sign of him, I wouldnt be surprised if he doesnt follow closely behind Jofra in coming home. I guess with CSK doing ok without him there is less pressure to put him out there and risk it, there have been a few injuries in the field and to be honest I think I would be happier not seeing him come out now.

On the plus side, Broad, Anderson, asnd Robinson all look to be in good form so even without Archer the pace attack is there, problem will be in the later games if it catches up with the older gents and Archer isnt fit to replace one. Bairstow is back and is looking ok

Dermot O'Logical

2,574 posts

129 months

Tuesday 9th May 2023
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I read yesterday that Robinson might have overdone it in the last game for Sussex and tweaked a hamstring.

I'm glad that Jof's elbow injury is being taken seriously, Stokes and the ECB have asked for fast wickets to be prepared for the Ashes, so he's clearly uppermost in the minds of Stokes and McCullum, and if he's fit then we can serve up 90+mph from both ends from Jof and Mark Wood for 10-12 over spells, which should occupy the Crim batsmen's minds. Mix that up with Jimmy hooping it around corners in the inevitably overcast and humid conditions, and we might stand a chance.

There's only one way to find out.

Leithen

10,860 posts

267 months

Tuesday 9th May 2023
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It would be fantastic if Archer could consistently bowl 90+mph, but the evidence would suggest otherwise. IMO there is no point in including him unless he is 100% fit.

Scabutz

7,585 posts

80 months

Friday 12th May 2023
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Jimmy is off the field in the Lancashire game today with "an injury". No word yet of how serious it is, or what it is.

It's all starting to get a bit worrying, Stokes, Archer, Anderson, Robinson all apparently dealing with injuries but not clear information on how bad they are .

Kettmark

903 posts

153 months

Saturday 13th May 2023
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Fingers crossed for sir Jimmy. Hopefully not the end of an illustrious career...

NowWatchThisDrive

689 posts

104 months

Tuesday 16th May 2023
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Official confirmation of what we were all expecting anyway: Archer ruled out of the Ashes. At least we have Bairstow back in the fold.

Leithen

10,860 posts

267 months

Tuesday 16th May 2023
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Feel for him. Nightmare. Bags of talent, but a body that can't stay in one piece.

Slowboathome

3,258 posts

44 months

Tuesday 16th May 2023
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Gutted for Archer. Such a shame.

Feel for Foakes too. I would imagine Bairstow is feeling the pressure to perform behind the stumps.

SydneyBridge

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8,566 posts

158 months

Tuesday 16th May 2023
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Poor bloke, at least we know in plenty of time and hopefully Stokes can bowl a few short spells

Baron Greenback

6,974 posts

150 months

Tuesday 16th May 2023
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Agreed, fast bowling and pressure on the body is so high compared with the rest of the squad. Shame, sort of not looking forward to start of ashes but want to start.