The **BOXING** thread (Vol 4)
Discussion
DocJock said:
Good. There should never be rematch clauses in title fights. Give some of the other fighters a chance.
Doing it after you've insisted on one throughout negotiations then got agreement on a 70/30 split where the other side thinks there is a 2 way rematch clause is a dick move, though. 70/30 one off is a very different deal
Fiestapop11 said:
Fury
Weight advantage
Reach advantage
Has a great chin.
Ring craft on point.
Has he got a speed disadvantage and so not a big favourite?
I watch boxing but not a great expert, so would be interested in your views. I've always underestimated him in the past to be honest.
Usyk is a better boxer. Also has a great chin Weight advantage
Reach advantage
Has a great chin.
Ring craft on point.
Has he got a speed disadvantage and so not a big favourite?
I watch boxing but not a great expert, so would be interested in your views. I've always underestimated him in the past to be honest.
Pugaris said:
Fiestapop11 said:
Fury
Weight advantage
Reach advantage
Has a great chin.
Ring craft on point.
Has he got a speed disadvantage and so not a big favourite?
I watch boxing but not a great expert, so would be interested in your views. I've always underestimated him in the past to be honest.
Usyk is a better boxer. Also has a great chin Weight advantage
Reach advantage
Has a great chin.
Ring craft on point.
Has he got a speed disadvantage and so not a big favourite?
I watch boxing but not a great expert, so would be interested in your views. I've always underestimated him in the past to be honest.
I think it'll be a boring fight myself as both will be super switched on to oneanother
Bright Halo said:
Yazza54 said:
272BHP said:
I guess the only thing we can comfortably say is that Fury will be the biggest challenge of Usyk's career so far. It is one thing befuddling Joshua and quite another negotiating the octopus arms of Fury.
I am certain that Fury will hit Usyk more than AJ did as well.
Points win for Fury for me.
Yeah like I said the other day usyk hasn't had a plethora of world class heavyweight fights either, lots of people here are quick to rubbish fury's record but at heavyweight who else properly good has usyk beaten other than AJ? I am certain that Fury will hit Usyk more than AJ did as well.
Points win for Fury for me.
Usyk struggled a little against Chisora as he struggled getting inside his arms, might be easier with Fury’s longer arms?
Fascinating match up.
fridaypassion said:
Its all the same stuff people were saying before the AJ fight.
AJ has had a few shockers now, I just find it bizarre how so many people on here make a point of trying to rubbish Fury's record but talk about Usyk like he's a god among mere mortals. For what it's worth I think they are both great, and you can only fight what's in front of you, I just can't stand the hypocrisy.
I think it's impossible to call with any certainty and I'm surprised at the odds.
Fury should win it but he is unpredictable and could easily show up out of shape and mentally elsewhere. We know that Usyk will be absolutely ready in every respect. One important factor is the referree and how he allows Fury in particular to operate.
I would like to see Usyk do it. I think he is a credit to the sport. Very interesting fight.
Fury should win it but he is unpredictable and could easily show up out of shape and mentally elsewhere. We know that Usyk will be absolutely ready in every respect. One important factor is the referree and how he allows Fury in particular to operate.
I would like to see Usyk do it. I think he is a credit to the sport. Very interesting fight.
WCZ said:
Fury doesn’t seem to want to fight in the first place but I still think he wins if it does actually happen
Perhaps that is part of the mind games?We don’t even have any kind of announcement on when/where yet - surely it can’t be at the end of April? That’s only 6 weeks away - how long are heavyweights usually in training camp for?
fridaypassion said:
Its all the same stuff people were saying before the AJ fight.
AJ was made for Usyk, big target, one paced, relatively easy to hit and an inability to change tactics. He beats AJ 9 times out of 10 and that's being generous to AJ. Styles make fights and AJ style could have been custom made for Usyk and yet he had to endure two very uncomfortable rounds in the second fight. Fury is the polar opposite, mobile, hard to hit and has a boxing brain like I've seldom seen. He also has fast hands and his punches are hurtful because of their accuracy, and he does have power when he plants his feet. He can box and brawl. And in my opinion he is stronger than AJ, proper 'old man' strength. Can Usyk win? Of course he can, he is brilliant, Fury will have to be 100% but that boxing brain I mentioned will ensure Fury does turn up trained, he knows Usyk is the biggest threat he has ever faced, he is a boxing scholar. Fascinating fight, can't wait. epom said:
For some odd reason Fury doesn’t seem to want to fight him....
Why would you say that? It's clear that Fury is playing hard-ball with the negotiations. So far, that has won him 70% of the purse, which is *many* millions more than he might otherwise have achieved with say a 50/50 or 60/40 split. It isn't edifying to watch, I don't like it, but we can't say it isn't effective. The key problem is Fury is leveraging Usyk's weakness.... Usyk is desperate for this fight next. Fury knows that and so is pushing him around. Whether Usyk needs this fight next for the money, or for legacy, or to give inspiration to the people of Ukraine, who knows. But it means Fury is going to keep offering him the s
tty end of he stick and Usyk will keep taking it.EddieSteadyGo said:
epom said:
For some odd reason Fury doesn’t seem to want to fight him....
Why would you say that? It's clear that Fury is playing hard-ball with the negotiations. So far, that has won him 70% of the purse, which is *many* millions more than he might otherwise have achieved with say a 50/50 or 60/40 split. It isn't edifying to watch, I don't like it, but we can't say it isn't effective. The key problem is Fury is leveraging Usyk's weakness.... Usyk is desperate for this fight next. Fury knows that and so is pushing him around. Whether Usyk needs this fight next for the money, or for legacy, or to give inspiration to the people of Ukraine, who knows. But it means Fury is going to keep offering him the s
tty end of he stick and Usyk will keep taking it.
biggbn said:
I'm really looking forward to Joyce v Zhang, should be old fashioned last man standing type affair. Neither man plays games and both are come forward attrition type fighters. Expect Joyce to prevail.
Zhang has an awful tank, I think Joyce might be a little more cautious than usual for the first 4 rounds then really step on the gas. Can't see anything but a very easy win for him Pugaris said:
biggbn said:
I'm really looking forward to Joyce v Zhang, should be old fashioned last man standing type affair. Neither man plays games and both are come forward attrition type fighters. Expect Joyce to prevail.
Zhang has an awful tank, I think Joyce might be a little more cautious than usual for the first 4 rounds then really step on the gas. Can't see anything but a very easy win for him Joyce hardly flinched when Parker unloaded on him and I think Zhang is less of a threat.
Get this done then let’s see him in the ring with Fury/Joshua or Usyk before they and we are all too old!
andburg said:
Big bang is more dull thud - its not outright power its his weight that gets opponents when they tire
I think he has legit power tbf. His KDs and KOs come early, not when opponents are tired. His first round KO recently a good example of that: https://youtu.be/b0WPaNRmhDQ?t=364Gassing Station | Sports | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff