Discussion
DuncanM said:
45HC is insane, 28max men's was a good idea, if you can't play to that, then you shouldn't be winning comps.
Where's the incentive to learn to play the game better with ridiculous HCs?
TBH he was just returning to the game after a long lay off and had never had a handicap before so he won't stay there for long but I agree that 28 max was a good limit as it would encourage people to at least get to a realistically attainable standard.Where's the incentive to learn to play the game better with ridiculous HCs?
Tycho said:
TBH he was just returning to the game after a long lay off and had never had a handicap before so he won't stay there for long but I agree that 28 max was a good limit as it would encourage people to at least get to a realistically attainable standard.
That's it, by all means play and enjoy yourself, but 28 max meant that you had to work on being at least ok at the game, before winning anything.28 is still loads of shots, but at least it shows some ability.
Agree with 80% rule for comps too.
This is a tricky one.
We have a young member (about 22?), who is the son of one of our lowest handicap members (who has been a member for some 30+ years).
His wife died during childbirth of said young member, who was born premature. The young lad suffers with dyspraxia. His handicap is around 53.
He won last years eclectic competition (let's face it, not hard with a handicap of 53!). The look on his face when he went up to collect the trophy, and the cheer that he got at the prize giving dinner, was heart-warming and great to see.
Golf should be more inclusive, if that means giving people a high handicap to make them semi competitive then so be it.
If the old limit of 28 was still in play, he would never win a thing and probably get fed up with the game pretty quickly.
What his Dad has done is make sure that he plays quickly, walks at a decent pace, picks up when he knows he can't score, has his bag in the right place at the end of each hole and marks his scorecard on the next tee.
We have a young member (about 22?), who is the son of one of our lowest handicap members (who has been a member for some 30+ years).
His wife died during childbirth of said young member, who was born premature. The young lad suffers with dyspraxia. His handicap is around 53.
He won last years eclectic competition (let's face it, not hard with a handicap of 53!). The look on his face when he went up to collect the trophy, and the cheer that he got at the prize giving dinner, was heart-warming and great to see.
Golf should be more inclusive, if that means giving people a high handicap to make them semi competitive then so be it.
If the old limit of 28 was still in play, he would never win a thing and probably get fed up with the game pretty quickly.
What his Dad has done is make sure that he plays quickly, walks at a decent pace, picks up when he knows he can't score, has his bag in the right place at the end of each hole and marks his scorecard on the next tee.
Rosscow said:
This is a tricky one.
We have a young member (about 22?), who is the son of one of our lowest handicap members (who has been a member for some 30+ years).
His wife died during childbirth of said young member, who was born premature. The young lad suffers with dyspraxia. His handicap is around 53.
He won last years eclectic competition (let's face it, not hard with a handicap of 53!). The look on his face when he went up to collect the trophy, and the cheer that he got at the prize giving dinner, was heart-warming and great to see.
Golf should be more inclusive, if that means giving people a high handicap to make them semi competitive then so be it.
If the old limit of 28 was still in play, he would never win a thing and probably get fed up with the game pretty quickly.
What his Dad has done is make sure that he plays quickly, walks at a decent pace, picks up when he knows he can't score, has his bag in the right place at the end of each hole and marks his scorecard on the next tee.
I can see where you are coming from and would have no issues with him playing as I guess it would be unreasonable to expect him to get much better. For the vast majority though, 28 is attainable but how would you assess this in real life and decide any exceptions. It's good that his dad has set out the etiquette properly as I don't care how good you are if you are too slow, don't pick up and faffs around with your bag on the wrong side of the hole etc then I'm going to get wound up.We have a young member (about 22?), who is the son of one of our lowest handicap members (who has been a member for some 30+ years).
His wife died during childbirth of said young member, who was born premature. The young lad suffers with dyspraxia. His handicap is around 53.
He won last years eclectic competition (let's face it, not hard with a handicap of 53!). The look on his face when he went up to collect the trophy, and the cheer that he got at the prize giving dinner, was heart-warming and great to see.
Golf should be more inclusive, if that means giving people a high handicap to make them semi competitive then so be it.
If the old limit of 28 was still in play, he would never win a thing and probably get fed up with the game pretty quickly.
What his Dad has done is make sure that he plays quickly, walks at a decent pace, picks up when he knows he can't score, has his bag in the right place at the end of each hole and marks his scorecard on the next tee.
bodhi said:
s94wht said:
bodhi said:
One thing I forgot to mention is I found a Q-Star Divide on Sunday and put it in play for the last 4 holes, and was properly impressed. The Q-Star is a great ball anyway, but I couldn't get over how easy it was to see out there - just what I've been looking for all winter.
However I've gone to buy some more and they look really difficult to find - can only get them on Amazon for £40 a dozen which is a bit pricey - anyone know if they are still available?
Which colour? However I've gone to buy some more and they look really difficult to find - can only get them on Amazon for £40 a dozen which is a bit pricey - anyone know if they are still available?
Another lesson yesterday, still trying to work on driver and not being so steep, as you can see from the numbers, there's another 20 yards carry to be had if I can lessen the AOA a little.
Changed the shaft in the G430 and lowered to 8 degrees to try and bring the spin down, I've gone from 2700 to around 2100
4iron
7 iron
Changed the shaft in the G430 and lowered to 8 degrees to try and bring the spin down, I've gone from 2700 to around 2100
4iron
7 iron
Tycho said:
TBH I wouldn't care about someone lowering their handicap as it doesn't impact anyone but themselves. Sandbagging however does impact others and I'd like to see clubs be able to cut handicaps and ban players from comps.
I totally disagree with this. I have a friend how insists he is still playing off 10 - yeh hasn't shot under 95 in months. We as a group often play 2v2s etc as side matches etc Nobody wants to play with him as their team mate, you have zero chance of winning and we have to put up with his moaning all the way round.
If he accepted he wasn't as good as he was a few years ago, played off 18 again he would enjoy golf so much more.
OK he has no chance of winning a club comp, but my god we know it lol
danneth said:
Another lesson yesterday, still trying to work on driver and not being so steep, as you can see from the numbers, there's another 20 yards carry to be had if I can lessen the AOA a little.
Changed the shaft in the G430 and lowered to 8 degrees to try and bring the spin down, I've gone from 2700 to around 2100
4iron
7 iron
Great Numbers! Changed the shaft in the G430 and lowered to 8 degrees to try and bring the spin down, I've gone from 2700 to around 2100
4iron
7 iron
How do you find the G430 - I have the 425 Driver and hear the 430 sounds so much nicer
danneth said:
Another lesson yesterday, still trying to work on driver and not being so steep, as you can see from the numbers, there's another 20 yards carry to be had if I can lessen the AOA a little.
Changed the shaft in the G430 and lowered to 8 degrees to try and bring the spin down, I've gone from 2700 to around 2100
4iron
7 iron
Typical sort of issue really, that I don't think there's a great answer to - Changed the shaft in the G430 and lowered to 8 degrees to try and bring the spin down, I've gone from 2700 to around 2100
4iron
7 iron
Your AofA on the irons is perfect, the question is how to level out the AofA on the driver without messing up the irons. Even Rory is struggling with that at the moment.
I would say slightly down is better than trying to hit a lot up particularly if you have got the spin down anyway. A deep 3 wood that you can play more off the middle of your stance maybe a useful driver alternative on some holes.
danneth said:
Another lesson yesterday, still trying to work on driver and not being so steep, as you can see from the numbers, there's another 20 yards carry to be had if I can lessen the AOA a little.
Changed the shaft in the G430 and lowered to 8 degrees to try and bring the spin down, I've gone from 2700 to around 2100
4iron
7 iron
Super numbers! What are you playing off now?Changed the shaft in the G430 and lowered to 8 degrees to try and bring the spin down, I've gone from 2700 to around 2100
4iron
7 iron
andy_ran said:
Tycho said:
TBH I wouldn't care about someone lowering their handicap as it doesn't impact anyone but themselves. Sandbagging however does impact others and I'd like to see clubs be able to cut handicaps and ban players from comps.
I totally disagree with this. I have a friend how insists he is still playing off 10 - yeh hasn't shot under 95 in months. We as a group often play 2v2s etc as side matches etc Nobody wants to play with him as their team mate, you have zero chance of winning and we have to put up with his moaning all the way round.
If he accepted he wasn't as good as he was a few years ago, played off 18 again he would enjoy golf so much more.
OK he has no chance of winning a club comp, but my god we know it lol
I mainly play the normal Saturday morning individual Stableford.andy_ran said:
Great Numbers!
How do you find the G430 - I have the 425 Driver and hear the 430 sounds so much nicer
Thanks.How do you find the G430 - I have the 425 Driver and hear the 430 sounds so much nicer
I came from the G425 LST to the G430 max, I'm giving up a few yards for forgiveness but I think it's worthwhile.
The sound is night and day different (in a better way obviously) the driver also just feels more solid.
I've got another lesson on Saturday, and I'm hoping we'll look at the Driver as my ball speed isn't far short of yours (155 - 163 mph) but I'm barely getting over 220 yards carry - the fact they're launching between 5 and 8 degrees probably doesn't help!
The drives go straight and run out an absolute mile, but think I'm leaving some carry on the table
Those are TopTracer numbers so not likely to be as accurate but still....
The drives go straight and run out an absolute mile, but think I'm leaving some carry on the table
Those are TopTracer numbers so not likely to be as accurate but still....
Hammersia said:
Typical sort of issue really, that I don't think there's a great answer to -
Your AofA on the irons is perfect, the question is how to level out the AofA on the driver without messing up the irons. Even Rory is struggling with that at the moment.
I would say slightly down is better than trying to hit a lot up particularly if you have got the spin down anyway. A deep 3 wood that you can play more off the middle of your stance maybe a useful driver alternative on some holes.
Ye, I will keep working on really trying to stay behind it and keeping the body quiet, but if it started to affect anything else then I wouldn't over do it, I can live with the numbers im getting currently, but no one turns down more yards if possible 😂Your AofA on the irons is perfect, the question is how to level out the AofA on the driver without messing up the irons. Even Rory is struggling with that at the moment.
I would say slightly down is better than trying to hit a lot up particularly if you have got the spin down anyway. A deep 3 wood that you can play more off the middle of your stance maybe a useful driver alternative on some holes.
Spin is averaging 2100 ish which is fine, I don't really play woods as I've never got on with them, I'm about to put a hybrid in as well, as my current gapping is driver to 4iron so not ideal.
danneth said:
Another lesson yesterday, still trying to work on driver and not being so steep, as you can see from the numbers, there's another 20 yards carry to be had if I can lessen the AOA a little.
Changed the shaft in the G430 and lowered to 8 degrees to try and bring the spin down, I've gone from 2700 to around 2100
4iron
7 iron
3.9 down and 2100 spin...interesting.Changed the shaft in the G430 and lowered to 8 degrees to try and bring the spin down, I've gone from 2700 to around 2100
4iron
7 iron
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