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48Valves said:
RayDonovan said:
Hitting into wind in the bay but working with Trackman to normalise the data. I genuinely don't think a multi-brand club fitter would've got to the final result that Titleist did. Too many head and shaft options..
I’ve had a couple of fittings there, luckily hitting straight into the wind. You have to trust the Trackman numbers. For me though, it was useful to see the real ball flight as wind into on the range is the prevailing wind. Ive had a couple of lessons with a strong sidewind. Not great when fighting a hook and the wind is blowing over 20mph right to left. We had to close the bay door

Think I'll chuck the old Callaway on eBay, should still get around £150 for it..
milesgiles said:
AndyB_7 said:
s94wht said:
Bought a G430 #3 hybrid on eBay on a whim - looks in quite decent condition and only cost me £144 from golfclubs4cash. One of my aims this year is to sort out the gapping at the top of my bag. I know what I'm like and if I don't just jump in and try something, to at least get that starting point, I'll get stuck in a loop of, should I get fitted, do I want to buy new, or used, how do I know what's good if I buy used, do I want to get fitted and spend more on new, etc. Maybe I'll really get on with it, maybe I won't, but it should get me started.
Be interested to hear how you get on with it. I finally bought a hybrid last month (Sim 2) and after using it I wish I bought one sooner! So versatile and I find it so much easier to hit then the 3/utility iron I had. In other news after getting to a point where I'm playing the best golf I ever have, I recently completely lost the ability to hit anything other than a shank... 3 range sessions in a row, probably 90% of the shots I hit were off the hosel. I've been trying all sorts to prevent it and nothing seemed to work!!
Finally yesterday things got a bit better, with all my efforts being to swing more in to out (I've always had a slightly out to in swing but never resulted in hitting it off the hosel). I think I'd also been putting too much weight onto my toes, as moving it back slightly seemed to help get my hips out the way.
Isn't golf fun

A question for any senior golfer here? In your golf club does the Captain of your Seniors Section sit on the main Board/Committee of your golf club or do they just run the seniors section informally? Given that in many golf clubs seniors represent at least 60% of the membership is it worth considering? Is there a consistent approach to this in your experience?
I'm at a real love-hate time with golf right now. Yesterday I shot an adjusted 101. Off twelve. EIGHT blobs in 18 holes. Couldn't get off the tee, topping the ball. Holes were over within 100 yards. Then confidence goes and I can't hit irons either! About 5 points lost to putts grazing the edge. A whopping 19 points. Whoop de doo.
Despite all that, though, if it weren't for the wind I'd be back out there again today. Got to put it right!
Despite all that, though, if it weren't for the wind I'd be back out there again today. Got to put it right!
PhilkSVR said:
A question for any senior golfer here? In your golf club does the Captain of your Seniors Section sit on the main Board/Committee of your golf club or do they just run the seniors section informally? Given that in many golf clubs seniors represent at least 60% of the membership is it worth considering? Is there a consistent approach to this in your experience?
From my experience, the captain of the seniors section just runs the seniors section.I see little point the captain of the seniors section having a dedicated seat on the board/committee because of the club age make-up (unless as part of having joined said committees), as generally the Club President, Club Chairman and many past senior Captains will be part of the seniors section and thus have the required influence within the club. Also, there is a fair chance the club Captain will be a member of the seniors section.
Overall, over representation of the older members on boards and committees can be part of the problem with golf clubs. This happens naturally though because these people have the time to put into the roles via being retired, etc.
Ashfordian said:
From my experience, the captain of the seniors section just runs the seniors section.
I see little point the captain of the seniors section having a dedicated seat on the board/committee because of the club age make-up (unless as part of having joined said committees), as generally the Club President, Club Chairman and many past senior Captains will be part of the seniors section and thus have the required influence within the club. Also, there is a fair chance the club Captain will be a member of the seniors section.
Overall, over representation of the older members on boards and committees can be part of the problem with golf clubs. This happens naturally though because these people have the time to put into the roles via being retired, etc.
Thanks for reply. This is pretty much what I am hearing, so good to have it confirmed, even though there are the odd clubs where the SC is on the main board. There are other examples of where they sit on the Golf Committee. I see little point the captain of the seniors section having a dedicated seat on the board/committee because of the club age make-up (unless as part of having joined said committees), as generally the Club President, Club Chairman and many past senior Captains will be part of the seniors section and thus have the required influence within the club. Also, there is a fair chance the club Captain will be a member of the seniors section.
Overall, over representation of the older members on boards and committees can be part of the problem with golf clubs. This happens naturally though because these people have the time to put into the roles via being retired, etc.
RayDonovan said:
Indeed. Club ordered today with my Pro.
Think I'll chuck the old Callaway on eBay, should still get around £150 for it..
Excellent work, and those numbers you posted earlier were very impressive, especially the spin drop. Will expect pics when it arrives Think I'll chuck the old Callaway on eBay, should still get around £150 for it..

Although my only question is - did you try the GT4 at all?
bodhi said:
RayDonovan said:
Indeed. Club ordered today with my Pro.
Think I'll chuck the old Callaway on eBay, should still get around £150 for it..
Excellent work, and those numbers you posted earlier were very impressive, especially the spin drop. Will expect pics when it arrives Think I'll chuck the old Callaway on eBay, should still get around £150 for it..

Although my only question is - did you try the GT4 at all?
Not much properly open at the mo it’s all gone quiet..
Thanks to whoever put me onto the golf fix app in the previous thread. I feel I’ve made a little breakthrough (only had that same feeling 400 times before however..)
Point is, I’ve tried it on a few friends swings and it’s pretty accurate in estimating their competence. I think if you use it intelligently you will get most of the way to realizing your potential (only my opinion)
Thanks to whoever put me onto the golf fix app in the previous thread. I feel I’ve made a little breakthrough (only had that same feeling 400 times before however..)
Point is, I’ve tried it on a few friends swings and it’s pretty accurate in estimating their competence. I think if you use it intelligently you will get most of the way to realizing your potential (only my opinion)
I know it's ridiculously late, but HNY all! I had the old thread bookmarked and wondered why it had become so quiet

Have to say the Callaway mini-driver I bought last summer has been bloody fantastic. To the point where I no longer carry the big stick - just no need to. Driving has now become an enjoyable part of the game, rather than a concern as to what version of my golf turns up on the tee.
That, and the lab putter were my best two buys last year - perhaps maybe in many years.
In other news last weeks annual PGA Show turned up some interesting stuff. Already a fair few vids on YT for anyone interested. I'm contemplating replacing my SkyTrack with the new sim from Square Golf - for the price it's ridiculously good value, and now works with GSPro. (Also has club data, which my ST doesn't).
ukwill said:
I know it's ridiculously late, but HNY all! I had the old thread bookmarked and wondered why it had become so quiet 
Have to say the Callaway mini-driver I bought last summer has been bloody fantastic. To the point where I no longer carry the big stick - just no need to. Driving has now become an enjoyable part of the game, rather than a concern as to what version of my golf turns up on the tee.
That, and the lab putter were my best two buys last year - perhaps maybe in many years.
In other news last weeks annual PGA Show turned up some interesting stuff. Already a fair few vids on YT for anyone interested. I'm contemplating replacing my SkyTrack with the new sim from Square Golf - for the price it's ridiculously good value, and now works with GSPro. (Also has club data, which my ST doesn't).
The Square golf sim is really interesting but a summary of youtube reviews suggests the club data is pretty early days. 
Have to say the Callaway mini-driver I bought last summer has been bloody fantastic. To the point where I no longer carry the big stick - just no need to. Driving has now become an enjoyable part of the game, rather than a concern as to what version of my golf turns up on the tee.
That, and the lab putter were my best two buys last year - perhaps maybe in many years.
In other news last weeks annual PGA Show turned up some interesting stuff. Already a fair few vids on YT for anyone interested. I'm contemplating replacing my SkyTrack with the new sim from Square Golf - for the price it's ridiculously good value, and now works with GSPro. (Also has club data, which my ST doesn't).
I've played with my Garmin R10 quote a bit trying to use its (calculated) club data and it's not reliable enough to trust. The Square one should in theory be better (measured) but don't think I'd invest in it quite yet compared to a Skytrak which although old does give really good ball numbers.
Peterpetrole said:
The Square golf sim is really interesting but a summary of youtube reviews suggests the club data is pretty early days.
I've played with my Garmin R10 quote a bit trying to use its (calculated) club data and it's not reliable enough to trust. The Square one should in theory be better (measured) but don't think I'd invest in it quite yet compared to a Skytrak which although old does give really good ball numbers.
The latest update has moved the game on a bit - and the good thing is they seem to be releasing updates/new features constantly.I've played with my Garmin R10 quote a bit trying to use its (calculated) club data and it's not reliable enough to trust. The Square one should in theory be better (measured) but don't think I'd invest in it quite yet compared to a Skytrak which although old does give really good ball numbers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMNgqSpp7kE
latest update info
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlAXyXmH9pA
Edited by ukwill on Wednesday 29th January 12:18
ukwill said:
Peterpetrole said:
The Square golf sim is really interesting but a summary of youtube reviews suggests the club data is pretty early days.
I've played with my Garmin R10 quote a bit trying to use its (calculated) club data and it's not reliable enough to trust. The Square one should in theory be better (measured) but don't think I'd invest in it quite yet compared to a Skytrak which although old does give really good ball numbers.
The latest update has moved the game on a bit - and the good thing is they seem to be releasing updates/new features constantly.I've played with my Garmin R10 quote a bit trying to use its (calculated) club data and it's not reliable enough to trust. The Square one should in theory be better (measured) but don't think I'd invest in it quite yet compared to a Skytrak which although old does give really good ball numbers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMNgqSpp7kE
latest update info
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlAXyXmH9pA
Edited by ukwill on Wednesday 29th January 12:18
Peterpetrole said:
Yes, as I say the ball data looks good but there's no club data at all on those vids.
Apols those were the two I've recently watched - here's a recent one with club data includedhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYD8tmUZ8xY
For the price point I think it's bloody good!
ukwill said:
Apols those were the two I've recently watched - here's a recent one with club data included
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYD8tmUZ8xY
For the price point I think it's bloody good!
If you scroll to about 9 minutes in that video you will see the club data coming up as 1.5 degrees ascending with an iron, and his path looks pretty wild (11 degrees in to out) as well, which is incredibly unlikely. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYD8tmUZ8xY
For the price point I think it's bloody good!
Accepting the measurement criteria will be different to GCQuad but personally I wouldn't find that useful club data.
Anyone here done the practice day at the BMW PGA at Wentworth? I've heard it's quite good fun. I went on the Friday last year with my nan and she really enjoyed it, and her birthday is coming up, so I'm thinking of getting tickets to the practice day and the Pro-Am (she's already said she likes the sound of the latter)
Peterpetrole said:
ukwill said:
Apols those were the two I've recently watched - here's a recent one with club data included
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYD8tmUZ8xY
For the price point I think it's bloody good!
If you scroll to about 9 minutes in that video you will see the club data coming up as 1.5 degrees ascending with an iron, and his path looks pretty wild (11 degrees in to out) as well, which is incredibly unlikely. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYD8tmUZ8xY
For the price point I think it's bloody good!
Accepting the measurement criteria will be different to GCQuad but personally I wouldn't find that useful club data.
I’m looking forward to seeing how this progresses, I think this particular product has come in at a great price for what it’s offering. Already we’re so much further on in the home sim space than we were even just a few years ago. With advances in AI I think anyone considering this sort of setup is going to be spoilt for choice. And best of all, the price point keeps coming down whilst the features keep going up.
Until recently I was contemplating upgrading to the ProTee VX, but not now. Maybe I’ll wait a few more months though, just in case..
Edited by ukwill on Thursday 30th January 19:16
milesgiles said:
Not much properly open at the mo it’s all gone quiet..
Thanks to whoever put me onto the golf fix app in the previous thread. I feel I’ve made a little breakthrough (only had that same feeling 400 times before however..)
Point is, I’ve tried it on a few friends swings and it’s pretty accurate in estimating their competence. I think if you use it intelligently you will get most of the way to realizing your potential (only my opinion)
Do you pay for it? Haven't played around for a while, but I liked it. Thanks to whoever put me onto the golf fix app in the previous thread. I feel I’ve made a little breakthrough (only had that same feeling 400 times before however..)
Point is, I’ve tried it on a few friends swings and it’s pretty accurate in estimating their competence. I think if you use it intelligently you will get most of the way to realizing your potential (only my opinion)
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