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ben5575

6,264 posts

221 months

Monday 4th March 2019
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Another +1 for that. I called him out when his arm dropped, so can completely see why Herb stopped it. As you say, Lawler showed real class; a true professional. Although tbf, a scary as fk one!

I enjoyed the prelims as well. You can never go wrong with a Garcia fight and I love watching Zabit's kickboxing too.

Just checking the spelling of Pedro Munhoz and Cody Garbrandt on wiki and it says 'KO (punches)' which seems wonderfully British in its understatement laugh

MrJuice

3,358 posts

156 months

Monday 4th March 2019
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Kamaru Usman smacked Woodley around at will. Proper beast.

They both looked awfully PED'd up though but maybe that's just their genetics

Zarco

17,842 posts

209 months

Monday 4th March 2019
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MrJuice said:
They both looked awfully PED'd up though but maybe that's just their genetics
Well I guess you would know Mr Juice.

Ej74

1,038 posts

185 months

Monday 4th March 2019
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How much do these guys put on after weigh in's ?
I've heard it can be a considerable amount

I think this is the area that needs ot be managed in terms of % gained after the cut

Ridealong

542 posts

70 months

Monday 4th March 2019
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I thought Herb Dean could have easily stopped Askren after being dropped and taking hammer fists, so if he didn't ask Lawler if he was alright then he made the wrong decision. In real time it looked the right decision, but I still don't know for sure what was or wasn't said to Lawler only what Askren said after the fight about Dean asking Lawler if he was alright.

I thought Marc Goddard disadvantaged Usman a number of times when Usman was attacking and trying to improve his position when on top of Woodley, also out of order on one occasion after standing both fighters up telling Usman to work.

g4ry13

16,984 posts

255 months

Monday 4th March 2019
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Ej74 said:
How much do these guys put on after weigh in's ?
I've heard it can be a considerable amount

I think this is the area that needs ot be managed in terms of % gained after the cut
They apparently can cut up to 30lbs 48 hours before the fight. All water weight, so within 24 hours can potentially gain 20lbs.

g4ry13

16,984 posts

255 months

Monday 4th March 2019
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Ridealong said:
I thought Herb Dean could have easily stopped Askren after being dropped and taking hammer fists, so if he didn't ask Lawler if he was alright then he made the wrong decision. In real time it looked the right decision, but I still don't know for sure what was or wasn't said to Lawler only what Askren said after the fight about Dean asking Lawler if he was alright.

I thought Marc Goddard disadvantaged Usman a number of times when Usman was attacking and trying to improve his position when on top of Woodley, also out of order on one occasion after standing both fighters up telling Usman to work.
That Askren fight felt a bit rigged. Askren was taking a real beating and i've seen Herb jump in and stop those. Lawler did drop his hand to the mat which was a weird action and looked like he went limp, maybe he did black out for a split second. He gave a thumbs up but it would have been hard to see that.

Goddard certainly seemed to break up the clinches quickly, whereas in the Jones fight they were happy to let it carry on. Not sure whether that's down to different referee styles or instructions from above.

ben5575

6,264 posts

221 months

Monday 4th March 2019
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g4ry13 said:
Goddard certainly seemed to break up the clinches quickly, whereas in the Jones fight they were happy to let it carry on. Not sure whether that's down to different referee styles or instructions from above.
I suspect some of it might be from above but probably more to do with trying to stop the clinch/fence borefest that UFC has become in recent times. I've no doubt it's very technical, but jaysus it's dull to watch. Maybe they have to let it play out more in a championship bout?

Zarco

17,842 posts

209 months

Monday 4th March 2019
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It did cross my mind that Herb might have been looking for a submission by Askren a bit too much. He is the new hot property for the UFC. Not sure I buy it though. Askren and Dana have a long history of not getting on, which made it remarkable he finally joined the UFC in the first place.

Equally Woodley isn't flavour of the month with Dana, so that isn't beyond the realms of possibility. I do find Woodley quite irritating outside the ring, and his style hasn't given much excitement in the ring recently either; quite happy he's been knocked off his perch.

FredClogs

14,041 posts

161 months

Monday 4th March 2019
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You can't blame Herb for stopping that, Lawers arm was limp, if you're not out then don't act like you are. I suspect lawler was out momentarily. High level wrestlers have dominated the UFC before but it goes in cycles.

biggbn

23,315 posts

220 months

Sunday 10th March 2019
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Did not see dos Santos stopping big Derrick Lewis. Enjoying a bit of an Indian summer the big fella...

Zarco

17,842 posts

209 months

Sunday 10th March 2019
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That's not the first time I've seen the Black Beast taken out with a body shot. Can't remember who it was before but seems to be a bit of a weakness. That and cardio.

Not that surprised. Dos Santos is a class act.

g4ry13

16,984 posts

255 months

Sunday 10th March 2019
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Zarco said:
That's not the first time I've seen the Black Beast taken out with a body shot. Can't remember who it was before but seems to be a bit of a weakness. That and cardio..
Travis Browne. But that was because he 'needed to poop' supposedly.

biggbn

23,315 posts

220 months

Sunday 10th March 2019
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Yup, aware of Lewis frailties but thought jds was shot.

Zarco

17,842 posts

209 months

Sunday 10th March 2019
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g4ry13 said:
Zarco said:
That's not the first time I've seen the Black Beast taken out with a body shot. Can't remember who it was before but seems to be a bit of a weakness. That and cardio..
Travis Browne. But that was because he 'needed to poop' supposedly.
Ah yes! I remember now laugh

Zarco

17,842 posts

209 months

Sunday 10th March 2019
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biggbn said:
Yup, aware of Lewis frailties but thought jds was shot.
Fair enough. I find Lewis a bit one dimensional. Massive knock out power and thats it. JDS a lot more rounded and dangerous.

Don1

15,946 posts

208 months

Monday 11th March 2019
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JDS looking better and better in a very thin division (oh, the irony!). A fairly 'meh' card until the last two fights, some strange decisions (like Uncle Dana says, don't leave it in the hands of the judges).

The new format seems to be winning fans in the US, so that's a good thing for the sport (not that I'm convinced the UFC is), and as for their seeming infatuation with interim titles (Kabhib owns the title, but you have interim titles on Ferguson, with another one up for grabs soon. WTF?)

DocJock

8,357 posts

240 months

Saturday 16th March 2019
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Good card from the O2.

Quite a few unexpected results, but the Reyes/Oezdemir decision was a travesty imo.

biggbn

23,315 posts

220 months

Saturday 16th March 2019
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Saw that coming with till, think he is a decent fighter but that straight up and down striking style was always gonna land him in trouble against an unorthodox fighter like masvidal